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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
« Reply #540 on: March 05, 2025, 02:39:33 PM »
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  • Please do not start another marijuana thread.  In 2021 there were at least 4 such threads. Rarely does a multiplicity of threads on the same subject bear more or better fruit.

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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #541 on: March 05, 2025, 02:49:48 PM »
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  • Please do not start another marijuana thread.  In 2021 there were at least 4 such threads. Rarely does a multiplicity of threads on the same subject bear more or better fruit.
    My brain is random.  It would be a thread of alcohol use during prohibition and how it affected the Catholic Church?  I tried to look and see if there was already a thread, but I couldn't find one.

    My guess is that maybe prohibition was another stealth attack on the Catholic Church, but I have not researched it.
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #542 on: March 05, 2025, 02:58:37 PM »
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  • Please do not start another marijuana thread.  In 2021 there were at least 4 such threads. Rarely does a multiplicity of threads on the same subject bear more or better fruit.

    Agreed.  It's why I barely participated this time.  What's frustrating is that the Catholic theology regarding the matter can easily be summarized in two sentences, and it has been summarized early in this thread and so it needn't have continued.

    Theologians agree that taking a substance to the point of completely losing control of your higher faculties (to where you can no longer engage in moral reasoning) is grave sin ... without a grave justification for it (e.g. surgery, relief of extreme pain, etc.), and that lesser degrees of impairment of those faculties can be justified (i.e. not sinful) for proportionately less grave reasons.  If these "incomplete" impairments (their term) are not justified for such proportionate reasons, they'd be venial sins. 

    Done. 

    If you want to add a third sentence it's that certain extrinsic considerations can render its use gravely evil, such as if I am risking my job (at a place where randoms are taken), or risking prison, or taking one of those substances that can cause instant addiction to the point where people ruin their lives over it, or even just breaking a just law without (again) proportionately serious reason. 

    What a waste of time.  I submit it's due to a lot of Traditoinal Catholics in the US being somewhat poisoned by Puritanical attitudes, something which we saw also on some other threads.  I doubt we'd be having this debate in, say, most of Europe or Latin America.

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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #543 on: March 05, 2025, 10:22:07 PM »
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  • Agreed.  It's why I barely participated this time.  What's frustrating is that the Catholic theology regarding the matter can easily be summarized in two sentences, and it has been summarized early in this thread and so it needn't have continued.

    Theologians agree that taking a substance to the point of completely losing control of your higher faculties (to where you can no longer engage in moral reasoning) is grave sin ... without a grave justification for it (e.g. surgery, relief of extreme pain, etc.), and that lesser degrees of impairment of those faculties can be justified (i.e. not sinful) for proportionately less grave reasons.  If these "incomplete" impairments (their term) are not justified for such proportionate reasons, they'd be venial sins. 

    Done. 

    If you want to add a third sentence it's that certain extrinsic considerations can render its use gravely evil, such as if I am risking my job (at a place where randoms are taken), or risking prison, or taking one of those substances that can cause instant addiction to the point where people ruin their lives over it, or even just breaking a just law without (again) proportionately serious reason. 

    What a waste of time.  I submit it's due to a lot of Traditoinal Catholics in the US being somewhat poisoned by Puritanical attitudes, something which we saw also on some other threads.  I doubt we'd be having this debate in, say, most of Europe or Latin America.
    How would someone know if they have a sufficient justification for lesser impairment? E.g alcohol use for joy, alcohol to help socialise etc?

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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #544 on: March 06, 2025, 02:24:57 AM »
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  • What a waste of time.  I submit it's due to a lot of Traditoinal Catholics in the US being somewhat poisoned by Puritanical attitudes, something which we saw also on some other threads.  I doubt we'd be having this debate in, say, most of Europe or Latin America.
    This is what appears so odd to us in american movies. If someone drinks, he's systematically portrayed as an alcoholic. Having a drinking age set at 21 is very extreme. And having drinking exclusively in places where children aren't allowed means that there is no gradual build up to reasonable adult drinking. 

    Adults will also tend to behave better in a café if there are children around.