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Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
« Reply #495 on: March 04, 2025, 05:08:53 AM »
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  • Pot heads are losers. Today's weed is, also, weaponized. It induces temporary schizophrenia in its users. 

    Also, fentanyl is an IQ test. I have no sympathy for those who use it. They deserve to die. No state resources should be expended to help fentanyl addicts.
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #496 on: March 04, 2025, 09:58:23 AM »
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  • Pot heads are losers. Today's weed is, also, weaponized. It induces temporary schizophrenia in its users.

    Also, fentanyl is an IQ test. I have no sympathy for those who use it. They deserve to die. No state resources should be expended to help fentanyl addicts.
    If by "pot head" you mean the stereotypical "Cheech and Chong" kind of MJ user, I agree. I believe the polls showing that a majority of Americans of all ages use MJ. Since the majority of the people I see in public or private do not fit the Cheech and Chong mold, I conclude that most MJ users are not "pot heads," but instead "fit in" and function in American society (a society that is nothing as I would want).

    I agree that MJ has been weaponized.… repeatedly. It was weaponized when it was made illegal. It is now weaponized while it is being made legal. In my opinion, the calming and dissociative effects of some strains of MJ take potential allies "out of the fight" against the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan. I think that is the main reason that our oppressors are allowing MJ legalization.

    MJ induces temporary "schizophrenia" only in those already vulnerable due to their pre-existent mental state. I repeat what I have consistently stated, not everyone is suited to the use of MJ. I freely stipulate that people with certain mental states states (especially schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, and bipolar disorder) are not typically among those who should use MJ. As I have so often said on this subject "careful case-by-case assessment" and "judicious use."



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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #497 on: March 05, 2025, 05:12:32 AM »
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  • I have seen numerous people develop some rather serious mental problems after cannabis use. On that basis I will continue to completely avoid.

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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #498 on: March 05, 2025, 07:44:47 AM »
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  • If by "pot head" you mean the stereotypical "Cheech and Chong" kind of MJ user, I agree. I believe the polls showing that a majority of Americans of all ages use MJ. Since the majority of the people I see in public or private do not fit the Cheech and Chong mold, I conclude that most MJ users are not "pot heads," but instead "fit in" and function in American society (a society that is nothing as I would want).

    I agree that MJ has been weaponized.… repeatedly. It was weaponized when it was made illegal. It is now weaponized while it is being made legal. In my opinion, the calming and dissociative effects of some strains of MJ take potential allies "out of the fight" against the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan. I think that is the main reason that our oppressors are allowing MJ legalization.

    MJ induces temporary "schizophrenia" only in those already vulnerable due to their pre-existent mental state. I repeat what I have consistently stated, not everyone is suited to the use of MJ. I freely stipulate that people with certain mental states states (especially schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, and bipolar disorder) are not typically among those who should use MJ. As I have so often said on this subject "careful case-by-case assessment" and "judicious use."
    It induces a selfishness and apathy. It impairs judgement and causes loss of memory. It reduces performance and efficiency. All more than ever before, and not only the "Cheech and Chong" users but also the "normies". I've seen it in a lot of people with whom I used to work since it's been legalized.
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #499 on: March 05, 2025, 07:53:21 AM »
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  • Pot heads are losers. Today's weed is, also, weaponized. It induces temporary schizophrenia in its users.

    Also, fentanyl is an IQ test. I have no sympathy for those who use it. They deserve to die. No state resources should be expended to help fentanyl addicts.
    Yes.  You are right about pot heads.  Most watch tv, scroll porn on cellphones while high. 




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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #500 on: March 05, 2025, 10:40:30 AM »
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  • I have seen numerous people develop some rather serious mental problems after cannabis use. On that basis I will continue to completely avoid.

    I am tempted to make a joke at your expense about why you might know so many people who are nuts… but I won't. :laugh1:

    If your personal observation were true, 1 person observing "numerous" mental problems correlating with de novo onset of mental illness, there would be a mountain of corroborating evidence There is no such corroboration.

    Either (1) you are exaggerating "numerous" because it fits your already-admitted  "avoid" bias or (2) you are truthfully reporting a statistical aberration.

    As I have said, such correlations have been claimed, examined and put to rest. Such instances are not causal, but are instead manifestations of pre-existent mental illness unmasked in patients who should not have used MJ in the first place.

    You are welcome to avoid MJ.

    P.S. It is refreshing to see a newbie troll who wants to spread Reefer Madness instead of heresy… so far. :laugh1:  Did you make this new account just so you could double the apparent opposition to licit MJ use???


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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #501 on: March 05, 2025, 10:47:13 AM »
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  • Yes.  You are right about pot heads.  Most watch tv, scroll porn on cellphones while high.
    Hilarious. What percentage of the population has TVs, cell phones, and watches porn?

    Do realize that "most pot heads" also eat fast food and breath air?


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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #502 on: March 05, 2025, 11:05:45 AM »
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  • It induces a selfishness and apathy. It impairs judgement and causes loss of memory. It reduces performance and efficiency. All more than ever before, and not only the "Cheech and Chong" users but also the "normies". I've seen it in a lot of people with whom I used to work since it's been legalized.
    I think this is mostly another "eat fast food and breath air" observation.

    In any such legitimate observations, it is likely that the behaviors reflect injudicious use of MJ.

    I have repeatedly stated that I oppose injudicious use of anything, guns, money, alcohol, and MJ included.

    To my thinking, your claim is of the same species as the "guns cause violence" shibboleth.


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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #503 on: March 05, 2025, 11:11:27 AM »
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  • I have seen numerous people develop some rather serious mental problems after cannabis use. On that basis I will continue to completely avoid.

    I agree, but our observations don't count. The only observations that count are that of well-educated medical professionals who have written peer-reviewed papers on how wonderful pot is, and therefore, we have to accept that it is wonderful. No questions asked, because we all know that medical professionals are always right. We have to accept that a healthy mind and body can only be gained from marijuana or marijuana-like substances, which is a bunch of hooey.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #504 on: March 05, 2025, 11:18:29 AM »
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  • I agree. But of course medical professionals have written peer-reviewed papers on how wonderful pot is, and therefore, we have to accept that it is wonderful. No questions asked, because we all know that medical professionals are always right. We have to accept that a healthy mind and body can only be gained from marijuana or marijuana-like substances, which is a bunch of hooey.
    "Questions have been asked" about MJ and been answered.

    You don't like the answers. So what?

    You have not adduced counter-evidence beyond your own subjective projections like your utterly asinine "idol that replaces God" insanity and your "medical professionals are always right" and "a healthy mind and body can only be gained from marijuana" straw man arguments.… because no such credible counter-evidence exists.



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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #505 on: March 05, 2025, 11:24:12 AM »
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  • "Questions have been asked" about MJ and been answered.

    You don't like the answers. So what?

    You have not adduced counter-evidence beyond your own subjective projections like your utterly asinine "idol that replaces God" insanity and your "medical professionals are always right" straw man.… because no such credible counter-evidence exists.

    You are the one who said that a healthy mind and body can only be gained from marijuana-like substances. That is an idol that replaces God. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #506 on: March 05, 2025, 11:31:15 AM »
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  • You are the one who said that a healthy mind and body can only be gained from marijuana-like substances. That is an idol that replaces God.
    You are descending deeper, so deep that you now have only lies and distortion at your disposal.

    I have simply stated that our own natural endocannabinoids must be in balance for a healthy mind and body.

    No matter how bitter your animus against me, that fact is not an "idol that replaces God." The fact is actually a recognition of how God created us.

    Your bitter rejection of Divine Providence for having given our bodies the endocannabinoid system stinks of Manichaeism.

    If you don't like how God created us, take it up with HIm.

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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #507 on: March 05, 2025, 11:33:55 AM »
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  • You are descending deeper, so deep that you now have only lies and distortion at your disposal.

    I have simply stated that our own natural endocannabinoids must be in balance for a healthy mind and body.

    No matter how bitter your animus against me, that fact is not an "idol that replaces God." The fact is actually a recognition of how God created us.

    Your bitter rejection of Divine Providence for having given our bodies the endocannabinoid system stinks of Manichaeism.

    If you don't like how God created us, take it up with HIm.

    You said that marijuana-like substances are REQUIRED for a healthy mind and body. That's a replacement for God and religion, or at least the Catholic religion. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #508 on: March 05, 2025, 11:34:10 AM »
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  • I am tempted to make a joke at your expense about why you might know so many people who are nuts… but I won't. :laugh1:

    If your personal observation were true, 1 person observing "numerous" mental problems correlating with de novo onset of mental illness, there would be a mountain of corroborating evidence There is no such corroboration.

    Either (1) you are exaggerating "numerous" because it fits your already-admitted  "avoid" bias or (2) you are truthfully reporting a statistical aberration.

    As I have said, such correlations have been claimed, examined and put to rest. Such instances are not causal, but are instead manifestations of pre-existent mental illness unmasked in patients who should not have used MJ in the first place.

    You are welcome to avoid MJ.

    P.S. It is refreshing to see a newbie troll who wants to spread Reefer Madness instead of heresy… so far. :laugh1:  Did you make this new account just so you could double the apparent opposition to licit MJ use???

    Numerous being 4 or so - mostly people I went to school with years ago. Whatever other factors may be at play, that's a risk I would rather not take nor advise others to take.

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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #509 on: March 05, 2025, 11:36:43 AM »
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  • You said that marijuana-like substances are REQUIRED for a healthy mind and body.
    The depletion of endocannabinoids resulted in extremely high rates of ѕυιcιdє.

    A rational person would see ѕυιcιdє as the epitome of unhealthy mind and body.