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Offline Dingbat

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Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
« Reply #60 on: January 01, 2022, 06:58:53 AM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on January 01, 2022, 03:22:02 AM
    Is this what got Stanley banned?

    I have to say I agree with Dingbat and Bodeens.

    It's Matthew's call.  I get that. 

    I just don't see the kind of disrespect here that calls for him to get banned.  No bad words or name calling anyway.

    I didn't agree with Stanley's take on some things but I appreciated the evidence he brought to the table. 
    There was more to it than this. Stanley responded to the post from Matthew where Matthew was implying that Stanley would be one of the first Catholics to cave due to his willingness to "cave" to the lies of the world. Stanley DID go off on Matt, but it wasn't completely out of nowhere. I wouldn't want to be called lukewarm myself :fryingpan:

    The response post was deleted as soon as Stanley was banned, and I'm not sure how many people actually saw it. He made the post late at night, then I tried to talk them down, but as soon as I got up in the morning Stanley was "gone-ski"

    Faith comes before the internet lol. Stanley wasn't acting out of nowhere. Getting banned is better than actually being lukewarm.
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    Offline Meg

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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #61 on: January 01, 2022, 11:08:18 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on December 31, 2021, 06:57:20 PM
    You personally commented on "intent" as related to MJ.  Intent is a matter of interior disposition and is NOT accessible to you (unless you can also bilocate).

    Yes, I do believe that the intent, for most who smoke pot, is to get high. And....there can be serious side effects.
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #62 on: January 01, 2022, 11:50:03 AM »
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    • I believe I'll just move on to another thread.
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #63 on: January 01, 2022, 12:09:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on January 01, 2022, 11:08:18 AM
    Yes, I do believe that the intent, for most who smoke pot, is to get high. And....there can be serious side effects.
    Those who drink alcohol drink to get high as well-- I know because I drink it. If not they could drink grape juice( like a 3 yr old) :popcorn:
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #64 on: January 01, 2022, 12:14:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: roscoe on January 01, 2022, 12:09:12 PM
    Those who drink alcohol drink to get high as well-- I know because I drink it. If not they could drink grape juice( like a 3 yr old) :popcorn:

    Not necessarily. 
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #65 on: January 01, 2022, 12:46:42 PM »
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    • OK-- maybe you are two :laugh1:
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #66 on: January 01, 2022, 12:47:00 PM »
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #67 on: January 01, 2022, 12:47:59 PM »
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #68 on: January 01, 2022, 01:42:16 PM »
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    • The fact is that NO CHURCH AUTHORITY can be cited condemning mary juanita. :sleep:
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #69 on: January 01, 2022, 03:02:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on January 01, 2022, 12:14:16 PM
    Not necessarily.
    Yeah, "not necessarily" any of YOUR presumptuous pontification on OTHER people's intentions.

    Double-standard, like a #$%^& Jєω.

    You wanted "a" study and I gave you dozens.

    Also, like %^&* Jew, you disliked the titles of the studies so ILLEGITIMATELY discounted them. 
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #70 on: January 01, 2022, 03:04:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on January 01, 2022, 03:02:44 PM
    Yeah, "not necessarily" any of YOUR presumptuous pontification on OTHER people's intentions.

    Double-standard, like a #$%^& Jєω.

    And you are not presumptuous about other people's intentions? Really? 
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #71 on: January 01, 2022, 03:06:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: roscoe on January 01, 2022, 01:42:16 PM
    The fact is that NO CHURCH AUTHORITY can be cited condemning mary juanita. :sleep:

    For which Catholic potheads everywhere are, no doubt, very grateful. 
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #72 on: January 01, 2022, 03:12:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on January 01, 2022, 03:04:58 PM
    And you are not presumptuous about other people's intentions? Really?
    You %^&* hypocrite.

    You give the benefit of the doubt to drinkers ("not necessarily" [to get high]), but deny that benefit to MJ smokers ("overused," "an excuse" [to get high]).

    I have not presumed to condemn anyone's intentions, but have stuck with the facts:
    (1) MJ is less toxic and more beneficial than EtOH (and the risks are manageable)
    (2) MJ use falls under the same moral restraints as EtOH, avoidance  of undue risk physically and spiritually.

    If you think I have divined someone's interior disposition, quote me verbatim, (((Behar))).
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #73 on: January 01, 2022, 03:14:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on January 01, 2022, 03:12:21 PM
    You %^&* hypocrite.

    You give the benefit of the doubt to drinkers ("not necessarily" [to get high]), but deny that benefit to MJ smokers ("overused," "an excuse to get high").

    I have not presumed to condemn anyone's intentions, but have stuck with the facts:
    (1) MJ is less toxic and more beneficial than EtOH (and the risks are manageable)
    (2) MY use falls under the same moral restraints as EtOH, avoidance  of undue risk physically and spiritually.

    If you think I have divined someone's interior disposition, quote me verbatim, (((Behar))).

    What is a "behar" and why do you assume that I am one? isn't that judging me internally? 
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #74 on: January 01, 2022, 03:15:31 PM »
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    • Your objectively evident double-standard makes you a (((Behar))), no need to divine your interior disposition. 

    I don't give a hoot what your intentions are.  You have a double-standard.
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