Author Topic: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics? (Read 78434 times)

Mark 79 · « **Reply #115 on:** January 02, 2022, 02:49:04 PM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 02, 2022, 12:07:44 PM

…But as regards marijuana -and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong- for the last 30 years, the strength of it is such that, unlike alcohol, your faculty is severely modified and distorted after only a couple puffs. Even for daily user addicts who are accustomed to its effects, its not that it no longer has a severe affect upon them, or that they have become tolerant to it, but rather that they have become acccustomed to long-term distortion of their rational faculty.…

Flame away!…

No flames are necessary.

Asked and answered.

There are more potent strains of leaf available today than in the '60s. Yet hashish was also available in the '60s (and still) and has potency comparable to even today's most potent concentrates.

So the claim that MJ is "stronger" changes nothing about the manageability of dose by titration.

Anyone who starts MJ using vaped "dabs" of oil is ill-advised.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #116 on:** January 02, 2022, 02:53:27 PM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 02, 2022, 12:07:44 PM

…I think modern man is afflicted by misery, and this accounts for even some Catholics defending marijuana use: They want something to kill the pain, and take a break from reality. But if true, doesn't that prove the point?

When has man not been afflicted by misery?

When God threw Adam and Eve out of Paradise, did He promise that everything would be peachy-keen until the 21st century A.D.?

Is a glass of champagne at a New Years Eve party "something to kill the pain and take a break from reality"? Well… yeah… duh.

So what?

Should a Catholic wallow in misery every moment? Or does God allow us a tiny bit of joy once in a while?

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #117 on:** January 02, 2022, 03:08:15 PM »

Quote from: Mark 79 on January 02, 2022, 02:53:27 PM

When has man not been afflicted by misery?

When God threw Adam and Eve out of Paradise, did He promise that everything would be peachy-keen until the 21st century A.D.?

Is a glass of champagne at a New Years Eve party "something to kill the pain and take a break from reality"? Well… yeah… duh.

So what?

Should a Catholic wallow in misery every moment? Or does God allow us a tiny bit of joy once in a while?

Hi Mark-

I’m not sure that most people would equate a drink or two with an escape from reality (ie., the rational faculty is not injured), but probably would make that argument regarding taking a couple puffs of marijuana (which is much more incapacitating, and definitely does impair the rational faculty).

Wouldn’t you agree?

Clarinha · « **Reply #118 on:** January 02, 2022, 03:16:27 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on January 02, 2022, 01:21:58 PM

What does "potentially mortally" sinful mean? Doctor's prescription means nothing to me. You could get a doctor's prescription and still have it be mortally sinful. Let's say you're faking a condition of some kind. Conversely, if you can't get to a doctor and someone has major factures and trauma and are in unbearable pain, you can use these substances without any doctor's prescription.

And how can they possibly include CBD into the mix? CBD doesn't make people high and is legal almost everywhere. Moral consideration is whether you've lost control of our faculties. Interestingly, CBD can offset and mitigate the "high-producing effects" of THC.

I should not have used the word “potentially”.

I am told that CBD is sinful because it still equates to self-medication.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #119 on:** January 02, 2022, 03:21:51 PM »

Quote from: Clarinha on January 02, 2022, 03:16:27 PM

I should not have used the word “potentially”.

I am told that CBD is sinful because it still equates to self-medication.

Self-medication, in and of itself, is not sinful.

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