Author Topic: Margaret SANGER interviewed by Mike Wallace (Read 4845 times)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #20 on:** November 04, 2018, 04:36:51 PM »

Quote from: Stanley N on November 04, 2018, 04:29:14 PM

It seems like making distinctions among evils, but her "eugenics" views were somewhat complicated, and not necessarily identical to nαzι eugenics.

The quote I'm discussing was made in the context of the "Negro Project", I think. The full quote is: "We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."

I know some people take this to mean she wanted to hide what she really believed, but it can also be taken as she foresaw a false allegation and tried to take actions to avoid it, by hiring black ministers to be intermediaries with the community. The latter is, I think, the mainstream interpretation, so it's a tough sell to insist that it absolutely must mean she was hiding what she really believed.

No, there were other quotes about the Negro project. You're obsessed with that one quote in particular, and the case against Sanger does not rest on that one quotation. Sanger's eugenics was similar enough to Hitler's to warrant Hitler giving her an award.

You need to stop trying to defend Sanger. You're like all these Modernists who try to curry favor by acting like you're "fair and balanced" ... unlike all of Sanger's other critics.

Stanley N · « **Reply #21 on:** November 04, 2018, 05:06:34 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on November 04, 2018, 04:36:51 PM

No, there were other quotes about the Negro project. You're obsessed with that one quote in particular, and the case against Sanger does not rest on that one quotation. Sanger's eugenics was similar enough to Hitler's to warrant Hitler giving her an award.

You need to stop trying to defend Sanger. You're like all these Modernists who try to curry favor by acting like you're "fair and balanced" ... unlike all of Sanger's other critics.

The first thing I care about is truth. I am not "trying to defend Sanger", and paring down that one quote to make it sound like something else is dishonest.

If there are "other quotes", then USE THEM. We shouldn't mangle quotes just to make a case easier, or dismiss lies just because we're fighting on the side of the angels.

roscoe · « **Reply #22 on:** November 04, 2018, 07:10:21 PM »

If Sanger's intent was to kill nigerians in America, it sure didn't work....

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #23 on:** November 04, 2018, 09:03:34 PM »

Quote from: roscoe on November 04, 2018, 07:10:21 PM

If Sanger's intent was to kill nigerians in America, it sure didn't work....

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This might come as a shock to you, but most Negros have no connection with Nigeria.
Sanger's Negro Project was directed at people with very dark skin, regardless of their origin.

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Could be Haiti or the Dominican Republic or Puerto Rico. Could be the Congo or South Africa or Gabon or Cameroon.
Could be the Gold Coast, or Algeria, or Mozambique, or Zimbabwe, or Liberia, or Senegal, or Chad, or Tanzania, or Angola, or Botswana, or Kenya, or you name it.
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And as for whether it was effective, try imagining what their population would have been today WITHOUT Sanger's eugenics agenda in action.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #24 on:** November 04, 2018, 09:18:32 PM »

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Don't think so?

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Margaret Sanger thought so. She and her ideology founded Planned Parenthood. This is a direct quote from her:

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