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Offline Geremia

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Luther burned the Summa Theologica
« on: May 31, 2017, 12:19:32 PM »
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    • Luther burned St. Thomas Aquinas's works (including the Summa Theologica) on 10 December 1520, along with Pope Leo X's bull Exurge Domine that condemned his errors and excommunicated him. From Facts about Luther ch. 3:
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    Luther followed up this imprecation and invective on Rome [i.e., his Against the Execrable Bull of Antichrist] by publicly burning on the 10th day of December, 1520, at the eastern gate of Wittenberg, opposite the Church of the Holy Cross, in the presence of many students, who jeered and sang ribald drinking songs, the Bull of Leo X and all his writings, together with the works of St. Thomas Aquinas and other Catholic theologians. On the day after this contemptuous exhibition, Luther preached to the people and said [in his sermon Why the Books of the Pope And His Disciples Were Burned of LW 31]:
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    Yesterday I burned in the public square the devilish works of the Pope; and I wish that it was the Pope, that is, the Papal See, that was consumed. If you do not separate from Rome, there is no salvation for your souls.
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    Re: Luther burned the Summa Theologica
    « Reply #1 on: June 02, 2017, 03:07:42 PM »
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    • Too much truth for the old heresiarch to handle, I guess.
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    Re: Luther burned the Summa Theologica
    « Reply #2 on: June 06, 2017, 11:46:57 AM »
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    • According to
    • Steinmetz, David Curtis. 2002. Luther in Context. Grand Rapids, Mich: Baker Academic.,
    Luther had no direct knowledge of the content St. Thomas Aquinas's Summa Theologica. Luther in Context ch. 5, "Luther Among the Anti-Thomists," begins:
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    Did Luther know the theology of Thomas Aquinas? Historians, particularly Roman Catholic historians, have raised serious questions about Luther's familiarity with the theological positions of St. Thomas. Joseph Lortz, for example, suggested that the tragedy of the Reformation was traceable in part to Luther's ignorance of the balanced synthesis of grace and free will in Thomas's theology. Luther lived in a time of theological unclarity, dominated by the "fundamentally uncatholic" theology of William Ockham and his disciples. Luther made a legitimate Catholic protest against the uncatholic theology of Ockham and Biel, only to press his point too far and fall into doctrinal error. Had Luther only known the Augustinian theology of Thomas Aquinas, argued Lortz, he would have found adequate Catholic resources to combat the decadent theology of the Occamists without lapsing into heresy.
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    Re: Luther burned the Summa Theologica
    « Reply #3 on: June 11, 2017, 11:09:55 AM »
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    • Luther & Bacon were both dogmatic geo-centrists...

    I believe there are some in this forum who are the same... :sleep:
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    Re: Luther burned the Summa Theologica
    « Reply #4 on: June 11, 2017, 11:24:11 AM »
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    • Quote from: roscoe on June 11, 2017, 11:09:55 AM
    Luther & Bacon were both dogmatic geo-centrists...

    I believe there are some in this forum who are the same... :sleep:

    There's no such thing as a geo-centrist!

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    Re: Luther burned the Summa Theologica
    « Reply #5 on: June 11, 2017, 12:10:29 PM »
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    • You are absolutely correct :cheers:
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    Re: Luther burned the Summa Theologica
    « Reply #6 on: June 13, 2017, 05:28:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: congaudeant on June 02, 2017, 03:07:42 PM

    Too much truth for the old heresiarch to handle, I guess.
    interesting i read this. I talked to a protester today and he acted like he didn't want to talk to me.. allegedly had something to hurry off to.. Right. I had e-mailed a friend of his a couple weeks ago, and let said friend have it, vis a vis his rejection of Catholicism... how wrong once-saved-always-saved is... etc..  and so I know he got word of that and was just looking for an opportunity  to "pay me back" by walking away from me.

    Yep. Whoever said protesters are not christian was right on. They are just wannabes, at best.. I am not sure a lot of them even want to be...

    as you s ay

    Too much truth for the old [500 years later] children of the heresiarch to handle..
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    Re: Luther burned the Summa Theologica
    « Reply #7 on: June 13, 2017, 06:13:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: rosary93 on June 13, 2017, 05:28:05 PM
    interesting i read this. I talked to a protester today and he acted like he didn't want to talk to me.. allegedly had something to hurry off to.. Right. I had e-mailed a friend of his a couple weeks ago, and let said friend have it, vis a vis his rejection of Catholicism... how wrong once-saved-always-saved is... etc..  and so I know he got word of that and was just looking for an opportunity  to "pay me back" by walking away from me.

    Yep. Whoever said protesters are not christian was right on. They are just wannabes, at best.. I am not sure a lot of them even want to be...

    as you s ay

    Too much truth for the old [500 years later] children of the heresiarch to handle..


    Even the best intentioned Protestants can't avoid persecuting the Christ they claim to love. It's really frustrating to see all the people who almost seem to get the right idea but because they refuse to give the Church a decent chance, they never receive the graces they already claim for themselves. This is the reason the Holy Eucharist is such a brilliant test of faith: that Our Lord is every bit as present as He was during His first appearance but far less recognizable and far more silent than He ever was in front of Herod. These history revisionists would like to pretend that the Bible doesn't properly belong to the Catholic Church alone, they'd like to imagine that the "reformers" and in particular Luther weren't utter traitors to the faith, breakers of vows, and failed Catholics. Words are nearly worthless when dealing with these folks and they pollute everything they touch. Just one of the many things we're even less equipped to deal with considering the state the Church is in right now. As deep in Hell as Luther must be, I can't imagine it would be lower than the seats reserved for all the prelates and Popes who bowed down in reverence to the Reformation and died with that on their soul.
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    Re: Luther burned the Summa Theologica
    « Reply #8 on: June 17, 2017, 10:12:29 AM »
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    • I am not aware of any Pope who 'bowed down to the Reformation' :confused:
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    Re: Luther burned the Summa Theologica
    « Reply #9 on: June 17, 2017, 10:19:26 AM »
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    • Quote from: Croixalist on June 13, 2017, 06:13:37 PM


    Even the best intentioned Protestants can't avoid persecuting the Christ they claim to love. It's really frustrating to see all the people who almost seem to get the right idea but because they refuse to give the Church a decent chance, they never receive the graces they already claim for themselves. This is the reason the Holy Eucharist is such a brilliant test of faith: that Our Lord is every bit as present as He was during His first appearance but far less recognizable and far more silent than He ever was in front of Herod. These history revisionists would like to pretend that the Bible doesn't properly belong to the Catholic Church alone, they'd like to imagine that the "reformers" and in particular Luther weren't utter traitors to the faith, breakers of vows, and failed Catholics. Words are nearly worthless when dealing with these folks and they pollute everything they touch. Just one of the many things we're even less equipped to deal with considering the state the Church is in right now. As deep in Hell as Luther must be, I can't imagine it would be lower than the seats reserved for all the prelates and Popes who bowed down in reverence to the Reformation and died with that on their soul.
    I was kind of bored and listless today until I read this. I totally agree. I know Protestants who like to go to Bible studies, like to discuss the bible with friends, etc, and yet when it comes to actually DOING some of the things Jesus said... and I am not saying that is always easy but anyhow... well, they just walk away from that. I have been treated so shabbily by Proteestants (who don't even know me. Hardly anyone knows me...). I have been treated badly by them even when we were not even discussing religion or related things. They are not Christians, objectively speaking. I never used to say that. I used to think some of them were more "Christian" than Catholics I know.. but the thing is, they have not been tested like Catholics are... long story waht I mean. But frankly, I think the Catholic Church has always been corrupt (big news flash, I know) and it has always been very hard to be a True Christian in that Church.. much less the "protestant churches"... 

    i had more to say but can't remember it right now... but yeh, I have had it happen so many times: I think I have finally met a sincere "Christian" who is not Catholic and leans toward anti-Catholic... but it falls to pieces, any "friendship" that mightv been there, and it is NEVER (I promise you, never) my fault (the protester would argue that, but i speak objectively) 
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    Re: Luther burned the Summa Theologica
    « Reply #10 on: June 24, 2017, 02:30:19 PM »
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    • any pope who goes along with the protestantization of the Chuch which we have seen since the death of Pius XII

    is bowing to the Reformation (so called).. more like a De-formation
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