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Offline Traditional Guy 20

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« on: September 08, 2012, 08:04:47 AM »
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  • You know when I was younger and wasn't "aware" so to speak I thought the Star Wars saga was neat and all and a good story about the father eventually saving his son, HOWEVER once you become older you realize the more vile elements in this movie. Lest the point be missed, you must remember that George Lucas is still a big liberal kook, shown by him working with Speilberg on the Indiana Jones series along with him making that movie on the Tuskeegee airmen.

    First it must be made aware, that Lucas was inspired by the leftist literature of the time blabbing about Nixon "taking absolute power" with the Watergate break-in (even though LBJ and FDR did the same tactics) and so Lucas made the senators handing power willingly over to the Empire and was inspired by Watergate, along with Napoleon and Hitler being given absolute power, instead of taking it by force. In the prequel trilogy Lucas was inspired by George Bush taking power over our "war on terrorism."

    Second, the Empire itself is modelled after the British Empire, and the Rebels after the Americans, and the Empire is made out to be intolerant and bigots, considering their "xenophobic" policies against aliens, while the Rebels are good old egalitarian humanists who accept everybody. It is yet again another moral lecture to those evil "racists" out there.

    Finally the Jedi themselves are modelled after militaristic Buddhist monks because of their celibacy and their whole philosophy is inspired by Eastern mysticism.

    I am reminded of a recent interview Lucas did in where Lucas said that Obama was Luke Skywalker, Michelle Obama was Leia, and he was Han Solo, with George Bush being the Emperor and Richard Cheney being Darth Vader. :shocked:

    The guy's truly mucked up in the head. :laugh1:


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    « Reply #1 on: September 08, 2012, 12:02:52 PM »
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  • Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
    You know when I was younger and wasn't "aware" so to speak I thought the Star Wars saga was neat and all and a good story about the father eventually saving his son, HOWEVER once you become older you realize the more vile elements in this movie. Lest the point be missed, you must remember that George Lucas is still a big liberal kook, shown by him working with Speilberg on the Indiana Jones series along with him making that movie on the Tuskeegee airmen.

    First it must be made aware, that Lucas was inspired by the leftist literature of the time blabbing about Nixon "taking absolute power" with the Watergate break-in (even though LBJ and FDR did the same tactics) and so Lucas made the senators handing power willingly over to the Empire and was inspired by Watergate, along with Napoleon and Hitler being given absolute power, instead of taking it by force. In the prequel trilogy Lucas was inspired by George Bush taking power over our "war on terrorism."

    Second, the Empire itself is modelled after the British Empire, and the Rebels after the Americans, and the Empire is made out to be intolerant and bigots, considering their "xenophobic" policies against aliens, while the Rebels are good old egalitarian humanists who accept everybody. It is yet again another moral lecture to those evil "racists" out there.

    Finally the Jedi themselves are modelled after militaristic Buddhist monks because of their celibacy and their whole philosophy is inspired by Eastern mysticism.

    I am reminded of a recent interview Lucas did in where Lucas said that Obama was Luke Skywalker, Michelle Obama was Leia, and he was Han Solo, with George Bush being the Emperor and Richard Cheney being Darth Vader. :shocked:

    The guy's truly mucked up in the head. :laugh1:


    Happy to say that I've never seen any of those cult inducing movies.

    I work with a bunch of sheeple who are always trying to "out-cool" one another by quoting from and making references to SW.


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    « Reply #2 on: September 08, 2012, 12:36:16 PM »
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  • Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
    You know when I was younger and wasn't "aware" so to speak I thought the Star Wars saga was neat and all and a good story about the father eventually saving his son, HOWEVER once you become older you realize the more vile elements in this movie. Lest the point be missed, you must remember that George Lucas is still a big liberal kook, shown by him working with Speilberg on the Indiana Jones series along with him making that movie on the Tuskeegee airmen.

    First it must be made aware, that Lucas was inspired by the leftist literature of the time blabbing about Nixon "taking absolute power" with the Watergate break-in (even though LBJ and FDR did the same tactics) and so Lucas made the senators handing power willingly over to the Empire and was inspired by Watergate, along with Napoleon and Hitler being given absolute power, instead of taking it by force. In the prequel trilogy Lucas was inspired by George Bush taking power over our "war on terrorism."

    Second, the Empire itself is modelled after the British Empire, and the Rebels after the Americans, and the Empire is made out to be intolerant and bigots, considering their "xenophobic" policies against aliens, while the Rebels are good old egalitarian humanists who accept everybody. It is yet again another moral lecture to those evil "racists" out there.

    Finally the Jedi themselves are modelled after militaristic Buddhist monks because of their celibacy and their whole philosophy is inspired by Eastern mysticism.

    I am reminded of a recent interview Lucas did in where Lucas said that Obama was Luke Skywalker, Michelle Obama was Leia, and he was Han Solo, with George Bush being the Emperor and Richard Cheney being Darth Vader. :shocked:

    The guy's truly mucked up in the head. :laugh1:


    The British are good people (there must be some bad, I have not met them yet), but their empire was not good. 600 years of persecution of Irish Catholicism. The Irish who turned Protestants were not bothered by the invaders, only Catholics.

    I enjoyed watching Star Wars dvd collection when I was a teen. I did not think there was any evil message, it was just fun to watch and dream. Now I see that it was dangerous.
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    « Reply #3 on: September 08, 2012, 01:19:53 PM »
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    The British are good people (there must be some bad, I have not met them yet), but their empire was not good. 600 years of persecution of Irish Catholicism. The Irish who turned Protestants were not bothered by the invaders, only Catholics.

    I enjoyed watching Star Wars dvd collection when I was a teen. I did not think there was any evil message, it was just fun to watch and dream. Now I see that it was dangerous.


    Well the Irish surely didn't help themselves with the IRA introducing terror tactics against British soldiers and police. In fact the IRA's terror tactics, among the first used by a Christian people, would later be used by Third World terrorists. Let us not whitewash history here, the IRA were terrorists.

    As for the dangerous aspects, in reality there is really no Holywood film that is 100% okay to watch.


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    « Reply #4 on: September 08, 2012, 01:21:19 PM »
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    I work with a bunch of sheeple who are always trying to "out-cool" one another by quoting from and making references to SW.


    No offense but you work with a bunch of boys, not men.


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    « Reply #5 on: September 08, 2012, 02:38:37 PM »
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  • For what it's worth, Lucas was highly influenced in the creation of Star Wars by a book he had read in college called The Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell, which provides a Freudian analysis of the various myths of the world (including, in the author's view, the 'myth' of Christ). Lucas adopted many of the author's ideas in creating the mythology of the Star Wars universe.

    Take from that what you will. Admittedly, I still enjoy those films (well, the original three, that is), and some of the expanded universe stuff, too.
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    « Reply #6 on: September 08, 2012, 03:09:22 PM »
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  • You are correct, TraditionalGuy20. Star Wars is filled with elements of the New Age and the occult. "The force" is a primary example.

    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #7 on: September 08, 2012, 05:32:09 PM »
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    You are correct, TraditionalGuy20. Star Wars is filled with elements of the New Age and the occult. "The force" is a primary example.


    Ironically in the original trilogy they tried to make the "Force" all mystical and all while in the prequel trilogy they tried to make the "Force" explained away with more scientific reasoning.

    I'd like to add my original post should not be used as a defense of Mr. Bush. He was a horrible President converted to the old leftist and Trotskyist neoconservative ideology.


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    « Reply #8 on: September 09, 2012, 05:52:04 AM »
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  • Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
    You know when I was younger and wasn't "aware" so to speak I thought the Star Wars saga was neat and all and a good story about the father eventually saving his son, HOWEVER once you become older you realize the more vile elements in this movie. Lest the point be missed, you must remember that George Lucas is still a big liberal kook, shown by him working with Speilberg on the Indiana Jones series along with him making that movie on the Tuskeegee airmen.

    First it must be made aware, that Lucas was inspired by the leftist literature of the time blabbing about Nixon "taking absolute power" with the Watergate break-in (even though LBJ and FDR did the same tactics) and so Lucas made the senators handing power willingly over to the Empire and was inspired by Watergate, along with Napoleon and Hitler being given absolute power, instead of taking it by force. In the prequel trilogy Lucas was inspired by George Bush taking power over our "war on terrorism."

    Second, the Empire itself is modelled after the British Empire, and the Rebels after the Americans, and the Empire is made out to be intolerant and bigots, considering their "xenophobic" policies against aliens, while the Rebels are good old egalitarian humanists who accept everybody. It is yet again another moral lecture to those evil "racists" out there.

    Finally the Jedi themselves are modelled after militaristic Buddhist monks because of their celibacy and their whole philosophy is inspired by Eastern mysticism.

    I am reminded of a recent interview Lucas did in where Lucas said that Obama was Luke Skywalker, Michelle Obama was Leia, and he was Han Solo, with George Bush being the Emperor and Richard Cheney being Darth Vader. :shocked:

    The guy's truly mucked up in the head. :laugh1:
    Actually, I always viewed the "Empire" as analogous to the nαzιs with their white suited "storm-troopers" and evil Hitler-like leader, Darth Vader (Ironically played by a black man), even his name "Vader" conjers up visions of ruthless raiding Vikings and Teutonic warlords. The rebels were obviously the diversified freedom-lovers from the global multicult all motivated to unite against the Dark Side (basically traditionalism and normalcy) with the help of some kind of mystical, non-deity type of substance outside the laws of science named the "Force".

    One big Jєωιѕн production.

    I never really got into any of this, even though it  all came out when I was a very young naive kid, maybe even then I could subconsciously see it for what it was, typical Hollywood liberal propaganda and Jєωιѕн agitprop.

    Maybe that's why I usually always rooted for the bad guys in most big box office cinematic extravaganzas, especially when produced by the like of guys like Spielburg and Lucas.

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    « Reply #9 on: September 09, 2012, 05:57:59 AM »
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    You are correct, TraditionalGuy20. Star Wars is filled with elements of the New Age and the occult. "The force" is a primary example.

    I always thought there was something very Jєωy about the "Force" element in the SW trilogy, probably derivitive from a demonic Kabbalist concept.

    Hollywood is full of Kabbalists.

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    « Reply #10 on: September 09, 2012, 06:51:00 AM »
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    Quote from: Roland Deschain
    I work with a bunch of sheeple who are always trying to "out-cool" one another by quoting from and making references to SW.


    No offense but you work with a bunch of boys, not men.


    No offense taken. I couldn't agree with you more.


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    « Reply #11 on: September 09, 2012, 06:58:29 AM »
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    Actually, I always viewed the "Empire" as analogous to the nαzιs with their white suited "storm-troopers" and evil Hitler-like leader, Darth Vader (Ironically played by a black man), even his name "Vader" conjers up visions of ruthless raiding Vikings and Teutonic warlords. The rebels were obviously the diversified freedom-lovers from the global multicult all motivated to unite against the Dark Side (basically traditionalism and normalcy) with the help of some kind of mystical, non-deity type of substance outside the laws of science named the "Force".

    One big Jєωιѕн production.

    I never really got into any of this, even though it  all came out when I was a very young naive kid, maybe even then I could subconsciously see it for what it was, typical Hollywood liberal propaganda and Jєωιѕн agitprop.

    Maybe that's why I usually always rooted for the bad guys in most big box office cinematic extravaganzas, especially when produced by the like of guys like Spielburg and Lucas.


    Well Lucas wasn't a Jєω but you're right that he got Hollywood to get behind his movie and as was mentioned in an interview Lucas said he based the Empire on the British Empire, nαzιsm, Watergate etc. and the Emperor and Vader on Napoleon, Hitler, and Nixon and later on George Bush.

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    « Reply #12 on: September 09, 2012, 10:45:46 AM »
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    Actually, I always viewed the "Empire" as analogous to the nαzιs with their white suited "storm-troopers" and evil Hitler-like leader, Darth Vader (Ironically played by a black man), even his name "Vader" conjers up visions of ruthless raiding Vikings and Teutonic warlords. The rebels were obviously the diversified freedom-lovers from the global multicult all motivated to unite against the Dark Side (basically traditionalism and normalcy) with the help of some kind of mystical, non-deity type of substance outside the laws of science named the "Force".

    One big Jєωιѕн production.

    I never really got into any of this, even though it  all came out when I was a very young naive kid, maybe even then I could subconsciously see it for what it was, typical Hollywood liberal propaganda and Jєωιѕн agitprop.

    Maybe that's why I usually always rooted for the bad guys in most big box office cinematic extravaganzas, especially when produced by the like of guys like Spielburg and Lucas.


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    Second, the Empire itself is modelled after the British Empire, and the Rebels after the Americans, and the Empire is made out to be intolerant and bigots, considering their "xenophobic" policies against aliens, while the Rebels are good old egalitarian humanists who accept everybody. It is yet again another moral lecture to those evil "racists" out there.


    Yeah that was my take on it too, at least after coming of age.

    I saw Raiders a few years back and found myself rooting for the bald nαzι.  :boxer:

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    « Reply #13 on: September 09, 2012, 12:15:15 PM »
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  • Yes, the true Catholic resistance movement will be born out of the star wars movies.  Fake Catholics, fake fake fake, fake forum, fake moderators, fake threads, fake posts.

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    « Reply #14 on: September 09, 2012, 01:14:27 PM »
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    Yes, the true Catholic resistance movement will be born out of the star wars movies.  Fake Catholics, fake fake fake, fake forum, fake moderators, fake threads, fake posts.


    What on earth are you talking about? This thread is about criticizing the Star Wars movies.