Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: Lemonade selling girl bullied by cops, arrested and given to CPS  (Read 1350 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Matthew

  • Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 31168
  • Reputation: +27088/-494
  • Gender: Male
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • This story is WAY too scarce on the Internet to be true.

    But the big question: What was the purpose of creating a hoax story like this? This story doesn't read like "The Onion", "Eye of the Tiber" or a comedy/hoax. There's nothing funny or over-the-top about this story. It also claims to be completely true.

    My best hypothesis:

    Is this some kind of CIA honeypot to see who will take the bait and spread the word? They want to know how information flows, so they can shut down the relevant websites when the time comes. Maybe this is one of those tests?

    Just replace "girl kidnapped by CPS" with "The government is rounding people up in Louisiana" and you'll understand why they want to know how information flows. They want to know who to "cut off" if they want to keep things a secret.




    Florida Girl Turned over to CPS for Selling Lemonade
     
    An enterprising young Florida girl was arrested and turned over to child protective services following an incident that occurred on the normally quiet streets of Lakeland, Florida.
    Officers from the Lakeland Police Department had approached Ashley Hale, 12, who was operating a “lemonade stand” on the corner of E. DSC_0504Main St. and Eastdale Dr.  The Lakeland Police Department claimed it acted based on numerous complaints and 911 calls from passing motorists; apparently, Ms. Hale’s lemonade tasted so good that passers-by simply stopped their cars on the busy thoroughfare–creating a traffic jam–for a cup of her homemade lemonade. One as of yet unidentified officer bullied her into surrendering a free glass of lemonade, citing an imaginary law that public servants are entitled to “free food and drink” within city limits. According to a witness on scene, the officer drank the glass in one gulp and scolded Ms. Hale for charging the outrageous price of $1.00 a cup.
    She was then asked to produce a permit, told that she could be fined or even jailed for operating a public business without the proper licenses and permits. An educated young lady, Hale schooled the officers on American values, insisting that as a sovereign citizen she was within her rights to practice capitalism in a free market economy.  The motivated young lady told police she sold lemonade to raise money for her father’s birthday gift.
    The officers insisted she produce identification. She replied, “I’m 12 years old when ID do you expect me to have? I’m just making money for a present.”
    That, our Florida source said, is when the encounter turned caustic.
    When police demanded to know the nature of the gift, Ashley Hale exercised her 5th Amendment right to remain silent, saying only “I don’t answer questions.”
    The police then put the squeeze on her, browbeating her with threats of huge fines and incarceration. “Your mommy and daddy can also go to jail for this,” one officer said. The educated young lady was no match for their brutal intimidation tactics. One witness, wishing to remain anonymous for fear of police retaliation, said the officers had their hands on their sidearms while speaking with Ms. Hale.
    She buckled under pressure, and confessed to raising money to purchase her father a new hunting rifle.
    “Your father has guns in the home?” one officer asked. When she refused to answer, police handcuffed her and placed her in the back seat of a squad car. Instead of escorting her home, police remanded her to child protective services under Florida’s “Child Welfare and Safety Law.”
    Although no formal charges have been pressed against either Ms. Hale or her parents, Ashley Hale remains in the clutches of child protective services pending the outcome of a child custody hearing, scheduled for June 18th.
    Ashley’s father, an avid and experienced hunter, is a renowned neurosurgeon with no criminal history; her mother is an american history professor at Florida State University.

    http://www.beholdapale.com/blog/girlarrestedsellinglemonade/
    Want to say "thank you"? 
    You can send me a gift from my Amazon wishlist!
    https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

    Paypal donations: matthew@chantcd.com


    Offline Maximus33

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 88
    • Reputation: +58/-9
    • Gender: Male
    Lemonade selling girl bullied by cops, arrested and given to CPS
    « Reply #1 on: June 09, 2016, 09:03:06 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Words cannot express how angry this makes me. That is all I will say. I do not want to sin.


    Online Nadir

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 11658
    • Reputation: +6988/-498
    • Gender: Female
    Lemonade selling girl bullied by cops, arrested and given to CPS
    « Reply #2 on: June 10, 2016, 12:20:14 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • SHAME! SHAME :really-mad2:
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    Offline RomanCatholic1953

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 10512
    • Reputation: +3267/-207
    • Gender: Male
    • I will not respond to any posts from Poche.
    Lemonade selling girl bullied by cops, arrested and given to CPS
    « Reply #3 on: June 10, 2016, 07:04:29 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Same happened in the town I live in.  Three 10 year old girls were
    were selling lemonade for 10 cents a cup to raise some money.
    The Police came by and stop the girls, and cited their parents.
    There was a town ordinance that a license had to be purchased to
    have a garage sale including lemonade sale. The cost of a license
    for a lemonade sale was not worth it. However, the parents had to
    come up with $80.00 in fines and appear in court.  The Children
    were not taken away.

    Offline AlligatorDicax

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 908
    • Reputation: +372/-173
    • Gender: Male
    Lemonade selling girl bullied by cops, arrested and given to CPS
    « Reply #4 on: June 10, 2016, 09:30:56 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • On what was an inferred recommendation from the CathInfo owner-admin, I visited the off-site Web page that he linked.  But when Iarrived, there were things that just ain't right:

    Florida Girl Turned over to CPS for Selling Lemonade

    An enterprising young Florida girl was arrested and turned over to child protective services following an incident that occurred on the normally quiet streets of Lakeland, Florida. [....]  Ashley's father, an avid and experienced hunter, is a renowned neurosurgeon with no criminal history; her mother is an american history professor at Florida State University. [....]

    Oh, really, now!?   And the uncredited original author learned rules for English capitalization where, exactly?

    Are there no other CathInfo readers who realize that Tallahassee, in which FSU is situated, would be at least a 3-hour commute--each way--from from the family home in Lakeland?  There's no mention of the mother being retired, never mind that retirement isn't likely for the mother of a preteen daughter.

    Perhaps an uncommon background is required to quickly notice the complete absence of all credits whatsoever.  No citation of the site's local source of the "breaking"--hah![/i]--"news".

    Also no caption: Should any viewers believe that what they see are just someone's lucky photos-in-advance of the allegedly arrested preteen's business?  Sooo, how would <http://www.beholdapale.com> get hold of a preteen stranger?   There are no photo credits anywhere on the page to inform readers.

    But worst of all:

    Quote from: www.beholdapale.com/about/ (as of an hour-or-so before posting)
    About

    This is an example of a WordPress page, you could edit this to put information about yourself or your site so readers know where you are coming from. You can create as many pages like this one or sub-pages as you like and manage all of your content inside of WordPress.

    Uh, huh.   I take it that whoever is providing content for the Web site is completely clueless about minimum standards for a Web site to appear credible.  Which this one is not!   But wait!  Maybe the preteen girl pictured is really the site's webmistress!

    I must tentatively conclude that Matthew--or some correspondent(s) whose trust he should reconsider--has been seriously fooled.


    Offline AlligatorDicax

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 908
    • Reputation: +372/-173
    • Gender: Male
    Lemonade selling girl bullied by cops, arrested and given to CPS
    « Reply #5 on: June 10, 2016, 10:23:44 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Ooops!   I hate the required haste and unavailable preview whenever belatedly inserting a point via CI's "EDIT" mode.  So this time, my mistakes required a corrective reply anyhow.

    Quote from: AlligatorDicax (Jun 10, 2016, 10:30 pm)
    No citation of the site's local source of the "breaking"--hah!--"news".

    Also no captions: Should any viewers believe that what they see are just someone's lucky photos-in-advance of the allegedly arrested preteen's business?  Sooo, how would <http://www.beholdapale.com> get hold of such providentially timed photos of a preteen stranger--especially a girl?   There are no photo credits anywhere on the page to inform readers.

    I corrected my hasty oversights by insertions above in green.

    But I can't figure out why the MBCode square-bracketed 'url' & '/url' syntax appears literally in the posting, and produces unintended letter-spacing within them, just like in my initial reply above.  Sigh.

    Offline Matthew

    • Mod
    • *****
    • Posts: 31168
    • Reputation: +27088/-494
    • Gender: Male
    Lemonade selling girl bullied by cops, arrested and given to CPS
    « Reply #6 on: June 11, 2016, 10:46:22 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • This story is WAY too scarce on the Internet to be true.

    But the big question: What was the purpose of creating a hoax story like this? This story doesn't read like "The Onion", "Eye of the Tiber" or a comedy/hoax. There's nothing funny or over-the-top about this story. It also claims to be completely true.

    My best hypothesis:

    Is this some kind of CIA honeypot to see who will take the bait and spread the word? They want to know how information flows, so they can shut down the relevant websites when the time comes. Maybe this is one of those tests?

    Just replace "girl kidnapped by CPS" with "The government is rounding people up in Louisiana" and you'll understand why they want to know how information flows. They want to know who to "cut off" if they want to keep things a secret.
    Want to say "thank you"? 
    You can send me a gift from my Amazon wishlist!
    https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

    Paypal donations: matthew@chantcd.com

    Offline AlligatorDicax

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 908
    • Reputation: +372/-173
    • Gender: Male
    Lemonade selling girl bullied by cops, arrested and given to CPS
    « Reply #7 on: June 11, 2016, 01:22:27 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: Matthew (June 11, 2016, 11:46 am)
    This story is WAY too scarce on the Internet to be true.

    Indeed.  As readers might already have inferred from my reply late yesterday, I strongly suspect that the external blog posting "Florida Girl Turned over to CPS for Selling Lemonade" is a hoax by <www.behold a pale .com>
    • .  Rummaging around that Web site caused numerous red indicator lights to start flashing.


    The 92-year-old local daily (newspaper) in Lakeland seems not to mention the story at its Web site <[url]www.theledger.com[url]>
    • , nor any (hypothetical) responses to it.  I don't get any relevant hits when I search that daily's site from outside:

          +lakeland +girl +lemonade host:theledger.com

      The 3 nominal-but-irrelevant hits produced would be more appropriately called snags
    • .


    There are no relevant pages among fewer than a handful of snags each from using "host:" to single out Web sites of 2 competing dailies that're based in much more populous cities along Interstate-4 (Lakeland is roughly 1/2 way between Tampa and Orlando).

    -------
    Note *: Altho' 1 snag did alert me to the fascinating coïncidence that the winner (in Mar. 2016)
    of the local pageant title Miss Lakeland 2017 is named Ashley Halman, which is a name that I consider suspiciously similar to the allegedly arrested lemonade entrepreneuse Ashley Hale".

    Note #: I'd assumed that you (i.e. Matthew) want the subject-site's Web address mutilated enough for it to become nonfunctional as a link (to prevent it from improving the page-rank of what seems to be a hoax-perp domain), while allowing it to be figured out by live readers.  But it's beginning to look as if you've put me on some kind of a black-list for URLs for even unoffensive established Web addresses outside CathInfo: What's up with that?


    Offline Matthew

    • Mod
    • *****
    • Posts: 31168
    • Reputation: +27088/-494
    • Gender: Male
    Lemonade selling girl bullied by cops, arrested and given to CPS
    « Reply #8 on: June 11, 2016, 02:39:31 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: AlligatorDicax

    Note #: I'd assumed that you (i.e. Matthew) want the subject-site's Web address mutilated enough for it to become nonfunctional as a link (to prevent it from improving the page-rank of what seems to be a hoax-perp domain), while allowing it to be figured out by live readers.  But it's beginning to look as if you've put me on some kind of a black-list for URLs for even unoffensive established Web addresses outside CathInfo: What's up with that?


    It's a misunderstanding, that's what it is, as I've done no such thing.
    Want to say "thank you"? 
    You can send me a gift from my Amazon wishlist!
    https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

    Paypal donations: matthew@chantcd.com

    Offline AlligatorDicax

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 908
    • Reputation: +372/-173
    • Gender: Male
    Lemonade selling girl bullied by cops, arrested and given to CPS
    « Reply #9 on: June 11, 2016, 06:19:07 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: AlligatorDicax (Jun 11, 2016, 2:22 pm)
    But it's beginning to look as if  [....]

    I deliberately phrased the above, in deference to the owner-moderator, such that it expresses at least 2 distinct levels of my uncertainty over what was happening with my MBCode mark-up.

    Quote from: Matthew (Jun 11, 2016, 3:39 pm)
    It's a misunderstanding, that's what it is, as I've done no such thing.

    Fair enough.  So I'll make another try at the excerpt whose Web address was intended to be an operational link:

    Quote from: AlligatorDicax (Jun 11, 2016, 2:22 pm)
    The 92-year-old local daily (newspaper) in Lakeland seems not to mention the story at its Web site <http://www.theledger.com> [#], nor any (hypothetical) responses to it.

    #: Mark-up now revised within green text; (square-)bracketed '/url' corrects 'url' that I erroneously also copied into place as the closing tag of the pair (n.b.: opening tag is simple 'url' syntax, not 'url=address' syntax).

    But the MBCode square-bracketed 'url' & '/url' syntax still appears literally in the posting, and produces unintended letter-spacing within them, just like in all 3 of my previous replies in this topic above.  Sigh.

    At the moment, I have that disconcerting programmer's feeling that I've somehow gotten into a rut of overlooking something that's in plain sight.  Maybe fresh eyes will quickly see the problem & solution: I will p.m. you ASAP with a copy of my MBCode mark-up and the resulting HTML on CathInfo.