I found out that a friend was on this stuff and I went to research it.

Generally speaking, the "research" that can be found on the internet about a large number of matters has a very high probability of being untrue, since the search engines are controlled and driven by money and other agendas.

Maybe there's something worse than losing feeling. Not conclusive but concerning if you're going to take Kratom. 

According to a study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), kratom was a cause of death in nearly 100 people over a 17-month period¹. The CDC analyzed reports of more than 27,000 unintentional drug overdoses across 32 states and Washington, D.C. Approximately 152 of these deaths, or .56% of all the overdose deaths studied by the CDC, tested positive for kratom, according to postmortem toxicology reports².

Yeah, this was part of Gobblieb's propaganda campaign to demonize kratom (in order to enrich himself via Glaxo).  Someone analyzed these 152 deaths, and none of them had ONLY kratom in their system but were also filled with a variety of other substances, including opioids.  One does not want to mix kratom with opioids, since it can amplify the effects of the opioids, but there's no known case where kratom alone caused someone's death.  Typically if you take too much kratom, you're going to throw up, as it's not exactly in some miniaturized form.  You'll see that even in how this deceptive study was worded, that of 27,000 drug ODs, 152 had kratom in their system.  But it turns out they actually died of other stuff that was in theri system, and none of them had ONLY kratom in their system.  CDC also had studies assuring everyone that the jab was "safe and effective", 95% effective to start, based on bogus pharma-manipulated "studies", and then even they eventually admitted that it was single-digit "effective" and then claimed, well, you're less likely to DIE of COVID, even if you're just as likely to catch it.  Heck, you can overdose on almost anything, from caffeine (taking too many caffeine pills) or even water, or eating too much of something with Vitamin A in it, but no one has ascertained whether there's a lethal dose of kratom, and given the form it comes in, it would be nearly impossible to overdose on it.  Now, maybe if Glaxo sold their concentrated kratom pills, if someone ingested an entire bottle, something might happen, but good luck consuming a kilogram of kratom powder in one sitting.

Having been on this stuff for years and having first hand information and not just picking a side with no context, both sides are going to the extremes here.

There's the Kratom is perfectly safe crowd and the Kratom is horrible and should be outlawed and people die from it crowd. 

It's quite easy to build a dependency (helps my chronic back pain, helps me be more social and pleasant, and just makes you feel good and who wants to go back feeling like crap when they can feel good) on this stuff and go through nasty withdrawals.  The withdrawals are much worse than coffee withdrawals lol (I've gone through that too.)  There's testimonies practically everywhere about how nasty the withdrawals are and videos of people who quit, etc.  Some say similar or the same as Heroin withdrawals (although most say it's not quite as bad but close.)

I've been tapering off this stuff for about a year now and went from roughly 21g per day to now 6.5g per day (I measure it out and everything to make sure I don't exceed this amount and I drop a little each month or so.)  I tried cold turkey but the shock my body went through and the mood wings, depression, etc. where I couldn't even work I had to go with the tapering method, there is some withdrawal still but tapering is manageable.  The people who quit cold turkey tend to have withdrawals from 3-10 days and can't even really leave the house because of how horrible they feel, many report that they still don't completely get back to "normal" for 4+ months. 

The guy did present more than just the one anecdotal case and has links to his other sources in some of the replies in the comment section towards the people "calling him out."

Personally I think he's correct on this issue and I'm not a big fan of people who shill nootropics.  I can attest personally attest to this as well. 

I used to have a "healthy" (sinful) libido and after doing kratom for just a few weeks I noticed all the symptoms this guy has presented.  To me this is actually not that bad because I've been able to avoid many sins and occasions of sin of a lustful nature but having a dependency on this just to get through the day is a ball and chain I don't wish on anyone.  It's a medicine but it's also a recreational drug mixed in one as I don't even like people or want to socialize at all unless I'm on this stuff. 

I combine it with St. John's Wort as that helps with the anxiety and depression that you can get from using or coming down off of this stuff and it helps me want to be more social (I have to be for work unfortunately.)

Kratom by itself won't kill you so those people who say it kills are using spin and in every case those people had something else going on.  There are people that sell Kratom Extracts that boost the Mitragynine content up to 20x which just messes people up worse and shoots their tolerance through the roof.  Extracts are what are giving Kratom a bad name and people who shill extracts need to be called out. 

I think it's something that can be useful and beneficial to use on occasion in respected quantities (no more than 2g per dose), but no one should build dependency on this stuff or any substance at all for that matter.  Eventually after some time of using it you have to use it just to feel "normal."  That is not a healthy dependency or addiction.

I hope to get off this stuff for good soon, but I definitely do not want my libido back so I kind of hope it doesn't come back even if I do quit.  I get tired of pretty much everyone (outside of trad circles) acting like low libido is a bad thing.

 

The medicinal herb, St. John’s Wort is said to be used by 40
million Germans.  It’s an herb recommended by Catholics from antiquity.

Called the “good mood” herb it also soothes the entire nervous system. Ex alcoholics who use it know how effective it is in calming their drink anxiety.

Around the mid 1990’s, Jew-pharma decided St. John’s Wort was competition that was cutting into their synthetic nerve pill sales.  I recall Target removing St. John’s Wort from their shelves.

They came up with an elaborate lie, stating that the herb interfered with the chemistries of other drugs, making for dangerous reactions.  Their warnings are comical tales only an organic chemist would dare to try to understand.

Don’t ever worry.
St. John’s Wort is a gift from God 😉👍

Agree.  Just the name alone gives some comfort.  Big Jewma wants to demonize anything that may actually help people.    

I also strongly believe that anxiety is very often triggered by low magnesium levels.  Almost everyone is deficient in magnesium, since the amount of food you'd have to eat to get even the recommended daily level is simply not feasible.  You'd have to eat a cup and a half of peanuts, or one and a quarter cup of boiled spinach.  Unless you eat 3 ounces of pumpkins seeds every day, or 4 ounces of chia seeds, you're probably not getting enough magnesium.  I know that I rarely eat nuts or spinach, perhaps some peanut butter, but I'd have to consumed 18 tablespoons of it, or potatoes, where I'd have to eat 35 ounces, or 2 1/4 pounds, or 12 bananas.

That's a good point.  I know that's probably not the issue in my case since I take the "good" magnesium supplements (chelated, high potency) because Kratom often causes constipation and the magnesium prevents the constipation.  Magnesium is just good in general and yes everyone needs a good amount of it.