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Keeping a baby's sex secret - forever!
« on: April 11, 2018, 10:55:28 PM »
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    • https://www.thecut.com/2018/04/theybies-gender-creative-parenting.html?utm_campaign=nym&utm_source=tw&utm_medium=s1


    It’s a Theyby! 
    Is it possible to raise your child entirely without gender from birth? Some parents are trying.
    By Alex Morris




    Photograph by Bobby Doherty
    Three-month-old Sojourner Wildfire.




    APRIL 3, 20188:00 AM


    For months leading up to the birth of his child, Bobby McCullough was nervous. His partner, Lesley Fleishman, had enjoyed an easy and uncomplicated pregnancy. The couple’s sunny Brooklyn apartment was now stocked with a crib and diapers and soft, tiny clothes. They were as ready to enter parenthood as any two people could be, and they welcomed it. But still, McCullough worried that the first few seconds of his child’s life would unfurl like some Hollywood script, the wriggling newborn lifted up into the air while “It’s a boy” or “It’s a girl” rang out across the hospital room — both pronouncement and fate. “It just would have fucked us up,” he says now, eight weeks later, as, nuzzled against his chest, his tiny baby sleeps, a sweetly mewing black-haired dollop of a human. And so he told hospital staff, “ ‘At minimum, do not describe the anatomy, or what you think the anatomy means, when this baby’s born.’ We definitely wanted to prevent them being gendered in any intense moment. And everybody was aware of that.”
    In fact, McCullough and Fleishman already knew what anatomy their child would have. They’d learned it toward the end of the first trimester through a fairly routine test and had instinctually sent an email to close friends and family with the news. They didn’t particularly care what the baby’s sex was but also didn’t feel that it needed to be kept a secret. Then, just a few days later, an article showed up in McCullough’s Facebook feed about a Canadian baby who had been issued a health card without a gender designation — perhaps the first instance in the world of a government entity not assigning a gender at birth. For McCullough, this was a revelation. “Definitely the concept of not enforcing gender stereotypes was something that was on our radar, but we simply didn’t know or have the idea on our own to not assign the baby a gender,” he says. He began scouring the internet, looking for more information, for other families who might have made the same choice, for guidelines as to how one might go about it. He found a Facebook group and asked to join. Soon he was privy to the names and photos and thoughts and conversations of a small but hard-core group of families who were raising theybies — babies whose parents had decided not to reveal their sex, who used they/them pronouns for their children, and whose goal was to create an early childhood free of gendered ideas of how a child should dress, act, play, and be.
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    Offline JezusDeKoning

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    Re: Keeping a baby's sex secret - forever!
    « Reply #1 on: April 11, 2018, 11:08:54 PM »
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    • With all due respect, and pardon my French, but what ... is this? Are they mad?
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    Re: Keeping a baby's sex secret - forever!
    « Reply #2 on: April 12, 2018, 12:43:43 AM »
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    • Quote from: JezusDeKoning on April 11, 2018, 11:08:54 PM
    Are they mad?

    They are Devil-possessed.
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    Re: Keeping a baby's sex secret - forever!
    « Reply #3 on: April 12, 2018, 06:59:30 AM »
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    • What a despicable perversion of parenting. 

    Boys and girls should be treated as boys and girls and taught God’s design for them from birth.  
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    Re: Keeping a baby's sex secret - forever!
    « Reply #4 on: April 15, 2018, 02:37:22 PM »
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    • Those poor children!  What confusion that will cause them!
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    Re: Keeping a baby's sex secret - forever!
    « Reply #5 on: April 15, 2018, 05:04:37 PM »
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    • And yet some people still deny we are in the End Times. I think if you brought the likes of Voltaire to the modern day and showed them the fruits of their labour, in their fright and remorse they would probably run off post-haste to become hermit monks and spend the rest of their days in prayer. It is certain that no one at any other point of history could tolerate or understand the depravity of today. 
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    Re: Keeping a baby's sex secret - forever!
    « Reply #6 on: April 15, 2018, 08:02:33 PM »
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    • Just two mentally ill parents raising a potential psychopath.
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    Re: Keeping a baby's sex secret - forever!
    « Reply #7 on: April 15, 2018, 09:00:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jovita on April 15, 2018, 08:02:33 PM
    Just two mentally ill parents raising a potential psychopath.
    They're not raising him, they're abusing him.
    This is a child that's going to grow up beyond mentally disturbed. If the rabbit hole his parents put him in gets any deeper, he'll either shoot himself, his parents or his school in 15 years. Truly just a horrific situation.
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    Re: Keeping a baby's sex secret - forever!
    « Reply #8 on: April 15, 2018, 10:26:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: JezusDeKoning on April 15, 2018, 09:00:31 PM
    They're not raising him, they're abusing him.
    This is a child that's going to grow up beyond mentally disturbed. If the rabbit hole his parents put him in gets any deeper, he'll either shoot himself, his parents or his school in 15 years. Truly just a horrific situation.
    D'accord. I can't agree more, you're spot on.
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    Re: Keeping a baby's sex secret - forever!
    « Reply #9 on: April 16, 2018, 05:12:49 AM »
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    • And society wonders why there is violence and school shootings.  

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    Re: Keeping a baby's sex secret - forever!
    « Reply #10 on: April 19, 2018, 05:54:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on April 16, 2018, 05:12:49 AM
    And society wonders why there is violence and school shootings.  
    School shootings happen because of people with deep, deep, deep psychological trauma and problems. Like this kid. 
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    Re: Keeping a baby's sex secret - forever!
    « Reply #11 on: April 19, 2018, 06:08:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on April 16, 2018, 05:12:49 AM
    And society wonders why there is violence and school shootings.  

    And then they want to ban guns; instead of creeps like these.
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    Re: Keeping a baby's sex secret - forever!
    « Reply #12 on: April 19, 2018, 06:22:18 PM »
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    • The public education system is not an option for Catholic parents. Or any other sane parent, really.

    See what is happening in California.
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    Re: Keeping a baby's sex secret - forever!
    « Reply #13 on: April 19, 2018, 09:54:27 PM »
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    His partner, Lesley Fleishman,
    And you wonder why people hate Jєωs.
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