Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: John Salza and the Order of the Sons of Italy  (Read 2029 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline StLouisIX

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1351
  • Reputation: +1014/-116
  • Gender: Male
John Salza and the Order of the Sons of Italy
« on: March 07, 2023, 08:42:04 PM »
  • Thanks!7
  • No Thanks!0
  • In light of the recent attacks by John Salza against the SSPX and all Traditional Catholics, I am sure it would interest the viewers and users of this site to find out a very interesting fact about this man.

    Some years ago back in 2018, Salza attended an awards ceremony held by the Roma Lodge of the Order of the Sons of Italy (OSIA) in Wisconsin. You can see him pictured here among the other "honorees":



    See an excerpt of his "profile" here:




    The OSIA still has this recorded on their newsletter website, here are the links:

    https://franoi.com/community/osdia-state-lodge-honors-11-at-da-vinci-gala/

    https://franoi.com/profiles/osia0418/

    The OSIA is a masonic organization, as this in-depth Twitter thread reveals.








    It should be noted that one does not need to be a member of their organization to be an "honoree". Other organizations, like the masonic Rotary Club, also have a habit of awarding non-members if their lodge finds this non-member to embody the values of their organization. Nowhere under these two links does it state that Salza is a member of this lodge, or any lodge for that matter, yet the status of lodge membership is given for at least one of the honorees who went to the same event as Salza. See here the case of this Novus Ordo deacon:



    Though, funnily enough, the author of this article gives some mention of Salza's anti-masonic activities:



    Thus, it seems that while Salza is not a member of this group, this alleged crusader against Masonry is so highly regarded by this OSIA lodge that they gave him an award. Moreover, this foremost expert against Masonry received an award from a group of people he publicly claims to oppose and disavow.

    Two questions stand: Why did these Italian-American masons honor Salza, and why would Salza accept this award from them?

    There is something rotten in the state of Denmark!

    I have attached some relevant images below, along with PDF file downloads of the articles just in case they get "disappeared".


    Offline Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46813
    • Reputation: +27669/-5138
    • Gender: Male
    Re: John Salza and the Order of the Sons of Italy
    « Reply #1 on: March 07, 2023, 09:09:35 PM »
  • Thanks!2
  • No Thanks!0
  • Well researched.  I would have given him a pass on his pre-conversion Masonry, but this puts the man under deep suspicion.


    Online Mithrandylan

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 4617
    • Reputation: +5361/-466
    • Gender: Male
    Re: John Salza and the Order of the Sons of Italy
    « Reply #2 on: March 07, 2023, 09:11:52 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Yes, well researched. Thanks Louis. 
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

    Offline Cornelius

    • Jr. Member
    • **
    • Posts: 460
    • Reputation: +262/-266
    • Gender: Male
    • Some Catholic Guy.
    Re: John Salza and the Order of the Sons of Italy
    « Reply #3 on: March 07, 2023, 09:31:17 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0

  • Knew it. 

    What a shameless man.
    One day at a time.

    Offline Pax Vobis

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 12236
    • Reputation: +7741/-2354
    • Gender: Male
    Re: John Salza and the Order of the Sons of Italy
    « Reply #4 on: March 07, 2023, 09:54:24 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0

  • Quote
    Thus, it seems that while Salza is not a member of this group, this alleged crusader against Masonry is so highly regarded by this OSIA lodge that they gave him an award. Moreover, this foremost expert against Masonry received an award from a group of people he publicly claims to oppose and disavow.
    Great questions and great research.  We all knew Salza was a fraud and now there's evidence.  He's trying to be the Taylor Marshall of the new-sspx and now we have proof.


    Offline EWPJ

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 558
    • Reputation: +367/-52
    • Gender: Male
    Re: John Salza and the Order of the Sons of Italy
    « Reply #5 on: March 07, 2023, 10:22:33 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • I never bought into any of his supposedly "ex-mason" character.  (Supposedly) If you quit Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and talk against them the punishment is death.  Likely, he is, and always has been an asset of the masons to split and divide Trads and to keep them under the NO umbrella.  I never trusted the guy.  I pray for him and other trad personalities sometimes though that if they are controlled opposition working for "them" that they actually legitimately convert and work for Christ and The Church.  

    Offline Quo vadis Domine

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 4750
    • Reputation: +2897/-667
    • Gender: Male
    Re: John Salza and the Order of the Sons of Italy
    « Reply #6 on: March 08, 2023, 03:20:05 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Great questions and great research.  We all knew Salza was a fraud and now there's evidence.  He's trying to be the Taylor Marshall of the new-sspx and now we have proof.


    Wait, I was under the impression that Salza was now attacking not only sedevacantism but also the “new SSPX”. Are you saying that he is aligned with the SSPX again?
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

    Offline Plenus Venter

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 1553
    • Reputation: +1267/-100
    • Gender: Male
    Re: John Salza and the Order of the Sons of Italy
    « Reply #7 on: March 08, 2023, 03:35:49 AM »
  • Thanks!2
  • No Thanks!0
  • I pray for him and other trad personalities sometimes though that if they are controlled opposition working for "them" that they actually legitimately convert and work for Christ and The Church. 
    The Militia Immaculatae prayer of St Maximilian Kolbe: O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee, and for those who do not have recourse to thee, especially the Freemasons and those who are commended to thee (three times daily).


    Offline 2Vermont

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 11528
    • Reputation: +6470/-1191
    • Gender: Female
    Re: John Salza and the Order of the Sons of Italy
    « Reply #8 on: March 08, 2023, 06:01:47 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0

  • Wait, I was under the impression that Salza was now attacking not only sedevacantism but also the “new SSPX”. Are you saying that he is aligned with the SSPX again?
    I wonder whether Pax knows this as he had been away from the forum for quite some time.

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 18340
    • Reputation: +5706/-1973
    • Gender: Female
    Re: John Salza and the Order of the Sons of Italy
    « Reply #9 on: March 08, 2023, 06:29:16 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I always wondered about the Sons of Italy…..  many “ Catholics” are members.    

    May God bless you and keep you

    Offline Soubirous

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2109
    • Reputation: +1662/-44
    • Gender: Female
    Re: John Salza and the Order of the Sons of Italy
    « Reply #10 on: March 08, 2023, 06:15:14 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • I always wondered about the Sons of Italy…..  many “ Catholics” are members.   

    As for Catholicism, from what I've seen, these groups like the pomp and ceremony but their members are often fine with their kids marrying outside the faith. It's not unusual to see the masonic logo on bumper stickers in the parking lots of their society buildings. Many of these Italian-American associations have shady origins going back a century. They celebrate Garibaldi, Mazzini, Cavour, etc., the "fathers" of the Italian Republic who themselves were hand-in-glove with the Carbonari secret society, and even the Jacobins and internationalists (Garibaldi). These were the anticlerical and antiroyalist (as in the Bourbon kingdom of the Two Sicilies, not as in the republican Piedmonte) liberals that the Papal Zouaves fought to try to save the Papal States under Pope Pius IX. 
    Let nothing disturb you, let nothing frighten you, all things pass away: God never changes. Patience obtains all things. He who has God finds he lacks nothing; God alone suffices. - St. Teresa of Jesus