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Offline curiouscatholic23

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jfkundercovermasonJP1 dead?
« on: September 12, 2011, 01:19:18 PM »
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  • I have posted these topics in other sections, but I just found the Resistance section so I am going to re-post these questions. Feel free to PM it would be greatly apreciated. I'm just looking for the truth.


    1.) To what extent was Freemasonry involved in the JFK assassination? Were the Kennedys considered outsiders to the WASP freemason establishment, or were they apart of it? Was JFK about to pull the troops out of Vietnam and end the fed? I read the Dark Side of Camelot by Seymour Hurst who pretty much made JFK out to be an incompetent hawk who was escelating Vietnam.



    2.) Would it be a sin for me to become an undercover Mason and infiltrate the organization for the purposes of creating chaos within the organization?



    3.) Why was JP1 killed? Was he super liberal? Did he like Vatican II? Was he going to allow married priests in the latin rite? Was he an agent or an enemy of freemasonry?

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    jfkundercovermasonJP1 dead?
    « Reply #1 on: September 12, 2011, 01:52:55 PM »
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  • Quote from: curiouscatholic23
    I have posted these topics in other sections, but I just found the Resistance section so I am going to re-post these questions. Feel free to PM it would be greatly apreciated. I'm just looking for the truth.


    1.) To what extent was Freemasonry involved in the JFK assassination? Were the Kennedys considered outsiders to the WASP freemason establishment, or were they apart of it? Was JFK about to pull the troops out of Vietnam and end the fed? I read the Dark Side of Camelot by Seymour Hurst who pretty much made JFK out to be an incompetent hawk who was escelating Vietnam.



    2.) Would it be a sin for me to become an undercover Mason and infiltrate the organization for the purposes of creating chaos within the organization?



    3.) Why was JP1 killed? Was he super liberal? Did he like Vatican II? Was he going to allow married priests in the latin rite? Was he an agent or an enemy of freemasonry?


    There's no need to make a second thread.. You could have just posted this on the other one, but I'll answer your questions anyways:

    1) It's quite possible that Freemasonry was involved in Kennedy's death, but the Masons weren't exactly the *only* ones that wanted him killed.

    2) Yes.

    3) JP1 was a complete liberal, suspect anti-pope and suspect heretic. He was very unorthodox and made many questionable or downright heretical statements, just as his successor, JP2. I believe JP1 was killed because (and this is what I've heard) he wanted to remove suspected Freemasons from the clergy and get them out of positions of power. That sounds acceptable, but I cannot guarantee any truthfulness to the idea.  
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    jfkundercovermasonJP1 dead?
    « Reply #2 on: September 12, 2011, 06:30:14 PM »
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    2.) Would it be a sin for me to become an undercover Mason and infiltrate the organization for the purposes of creating chaos within the organization?


    Of course it would be a sin to join the Masonic order.  I think you should bring this up to a priest for counsel on this matter.  You would only get to the lower degrees anyway.  All the evil in Masonry is in the higher degrees.  You would never be able to get there.  Really prepostarous idea!

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    « Reply #3 on: September 13, 2011, 01:47:37 AM »
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  •   Devil sometimes tempts people to approach occasions of sin or any forbidden thing with the intention that some good or conversion of heretic would be resulted.
       As soon as you do it he has achieved his aim no matter how good is your intention.
    1-a man read a banned book with the intention of being able to refute it but he lost his faith.
    2-a man who approached a house of infamy trying to to convert those women there, ends in being one of them.
      And so on.....
    If it were possible to approach masons and gather any info others would have done it and masons were defeated long ago.
      If it were possible to preserve your faith amid such a big evil the church would never forbid joining secret societies.

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    « Reply #4 on: September 25, 2011, 08:57:03 PM »
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  • Friend, the only thing you need to do is know that the Church condemns Freemasonry in toto. Have nothing to do with it, call it the pagan filth that it is, do not keep familiar association with anyone involved, and one day, when Freemasonry is unmasked as the damnable demonic cult that it is, you will have guarded your soul against it and will be proven right for having rejected it.

    Much holier men and women than I have run like mad from the evils of paganism, the occult and heretical movements. I am far too ignorant and spiritually weak to do anything but imitate their examples.

    You would do very well to do likewise.

    Holy Mother of God, pray for us who have recourse to thee.

    St. Anthony of Padua, hammer of heretics, terror of Hell, pray for us.

    Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, ever present in the Sacrament of the altar, have mercy on us.

    This evil of heresy spreads itself. The doctrines of godliness are overturned; the rules of the Church are in confusion; the ambition of the unprincipled seizes upon places of authority; and the chief seat [the Papacy] is now openly proposed as a rewar


     

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