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Traditional Catholic Faith => Fighting Errors in the Modern World => Topic started by: SeanJohnson on April 18, 2022, 09:01:27 AM
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2.5 minutes:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rW4lDJzW7xA
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Saw an interesting video theorizing that the fatal shot came from Jackie. Will try to relocate it.
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Saw an interesting video theorizing that the fatal shot came from Jackie. Will try to relocate it.
Yikes..
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Saw an interesting video theorizing that the fatal shot came from Jackie. Will try to relocate it.
I'm pretty open-minded, I'll at least listen to pretty much any conspiracy theory out there, but Jackie?
Really?
I've got to dismiss that one under the rubric of Carl Sagan's "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".
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https://jackiekilledjfk.webs.com/
https://johnkimber.wordpress.com/2014/01/30/cia-agent-jackie-killed-jfk/
https://johnkimber.wordpress.com/2014/02/14/jackie-filmed-shooting-jfk-from-three-angles/
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I'm pretty open-minded, I'll at least listen to pretty much any conspiracy theory out there, but Jackie?
Really?
I've got to dismiss that one under the rubric of Carl Sagan's "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".
See Emile's links. Dismissing before examining any evidence at all is unwise.
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https://jackiekilledjfk.webs.com/
https://johnkimber.wordpress.com/2014/01/30/cia-agent-jackie-killed-jfk/
https://johnkimber.wordpress.com/2014/02/14/jackie-filmed-shooting-jfk-from-three-angles/
Thank you. :cowboy:
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Saw an interesting video theorizing that the fatal shot came from Jackie. Will try to relocate it.
I rewatched the Zapruder film, without reading any of the links, and darn if it wasn't Jackie who finished him off. I've always been puzzled by the trajectory of that exit wound, seeming to go upward. Her hand is right behind his head from where the shot would have come, and then she quickly moves her hand with something potentially shiny in it to behind a cushion in the vehicle ... probably to hide/stash the gun. Darn if it doesn't look like Jackie did it.
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Darn if it doesn't look like Jackie did it.
Agreed. Crazy, but apparently true.
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Agreed. Crazy, but apparently true.
I read some of the link. Some of it seems like a bit of a stretch, but much of the evidence appears pretty solid. Her behavior was highly unusual. After JFK seemed to take a first hit (perhaps just injected with something?) she doesn't even look at JFK but is listening to Connally saying something.
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I read some of the link. Some of it seems like a bit of a stretch, but much of the evidence appears pretty solid. Her behavior was highly unusual. After JFK seemed to take a first hit (perhaps just injected with something?) she doesn't even look at JFK but is listening to Connally saying something.
I don't even know if those links are from the same guy I saw a few months back. I watched a video from an Irishman, I think. He theorized that Connally shot JFK with something to stun him, then Jackie could easily deliver the coup de grace. Undeniably tragic and catastrophic, period; that she did the deed makes it all the sadder.
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I don't even know if those links are from the same guy I saw a few months back. I watched a video from an Irishman, I think. He theorized that Connally shot JFK with something to stun him, then Jackie could easily deliver the coup de grace. Undeniably tragic and catastrophic, period; that she did the deed makes it all the sadder.
It's clear that JFK was in some kind of distress before any shots were fired. I had assumed that he had been already hit by a first shot, but evidently I was wrong about that. One of the links theorizes that it was Jackie who first shot him up with something and then shortly later delivered the kill shot. She was doing something unusual with her left hand and then after the main shot (the trajectory of which seems to go upward ... and that has always puzzled me) she seems to put her left hand down behind the seat cushion. There does appear to be something shiny in her hand and the motion resembles someone trying to stash something. Normal instincts would have had her embracing JFK. Then there was her strange behavior crawling up on the trunk of the car (when there was still an active shooter?). That's been traditionally explained as her retrieving parts of JFK's brain/skull fragments, but I find that absurd. I haven't studied all the details (and probably don't have time to) but the one claims that you can see in the frames of the video the trajectory of the bullet leaving Jackie's gun. We know it wasn't Oswald, but even then those would have been extremely difficult shots for expert marksmen from the kind of distances we're talking about ... with the target in a moving car. Very intriguing.
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So could Jackie have been some sort of spy and into the occult? If you look into her family life, both her father and step father were very wealthy and the very wealthy are typically into the occult. Circuмstantial but it’s possible.
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So could Jackie have been some sort of spy and into the occult? If you look into her family life, both her father and step father were very wealthy and the very wealthy are typically into the occult. Circuмstantial but it’s possible.
There's evidence Jackie was a trained CIA agent.
She suspiciously disappeared from any public view from Oct 1951 to Jan 1952.
Makow lays out some incredible details to support the argument that she was a spy.
https://www.henrymakow.com/2018/02/Jackie-Kennedy-CIA-Connection.html
I believe in http://www.jfksgunflash.com/ theory that Connally shot JFK, because of the bullet physics which were the hallmark of a close range gunshot. It appears he used a snub-nose 38 revolver frame with reinforced barrel for a 0.375 magnum round
Other evidence presented is also impressive.
(http://nebula.wsimg.com/ce4d8e607710dfc612a4806b1f67894c?AccessKeyId=42E0460B59797A6243A3&disposition=0&alloworigin=1)
In that scenario, Jackie was looking right at Connally as Oswald fired a diversion round.
Connally shot JFK through the Limo's middle jump seat, then faked being hit.
So Jackie knew where the fatal gun fire came from.
If you looked for Jackie's Catholic fruit... it didn't exist.
After JFK's assassination she lived in a scandalous, materialistic manner.
More like a Jєωess than a Catholic woman.
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Ok. This is interesting. I'm bookmarking this so that I can go through these links when I have some leisure time. Man, I feel like I am back in the late 1990s, dialing into the A-Albionic BBS
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If you looked for Jackie's Catholic fruit... it didn't exist.
After JFK's assassination she lived in a scandalous, materialistic manner.
More like a Jєωess than a Catholic woman.
This you had Cushing here, one of the worst heretics in the hierarchy, slapped down even by the Vatican for claiming that Jackie was "free to marry" whomever she pleased.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1968/10/26/furor-over-defense-of-jacqueline-leads/
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Bouvier reportedly had Jєωιѕн blood, and here's some more about Cushing from Wikipedia:
Cushing was honored by B’nai B’rith as "Man of the Year" in 1956 for "a lifetime of distinguished service to the cause of human brotherhood under God and in further recognition of great leadership in the fields of education and community relations." He was a close correspondent with Robert E. Segal, longtime executive director of the Jєωιѕн Community Relations Council of Metropolitan Boston, who played a key role in Jєωιѕн-Catholic relations in Boston. As well as this, Cushing maintained close contacts with Abram L. Sachar of Brandeis University. From the very start of Cushing's tenure as Archbishop of Boston, there was a major change in the relationship between official Bostonian Catholicism and Judaism, where there had previously been much mutual suspicion, Cushing sought closer relations. The author James Carroll has attributed Cushing's outlook to the (non-Catholic) marriage between his sister Dolly Cushing and a local Jєωιѕн haberdasherer, Dick Pearlstein. At the time this was very uncommon.
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From a 1970 article in the New York Times:
https://www.nytimes.com/1970/09/09/archives/cushing-ecuмenical-leader-kennedys-friend-communists-foe.html
Encouraged by the spirit of ecuмenism engendered by Pope John, Cardinal Cushing seized the initiative and began preaching in Protestant pulpits, visiting Masonic lodges and courting Jєωιѕн congregations.
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At the third session [of Vatican II] there he made an impassioned plea for religious liberty and for exoneration of the Jews as a deicidal race in connection with the crucifixion of Jesus. Council fathers broke a rule of silence to cheer the crusty Bostonian's spirit.
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In 1949, Archbishop Cushing ended a revolt by an ultraconservative Jesuit, the Rev. Leonard Feeney, by excommunicating him for publicly attacking [Catholic] teaching that salvation was possible outside the Roman church.
The issue was a delicate one that involved a principal stumbling block between Roman Catholicism and other Christians.
At the Ecuмenical Council in Rome, he told a Protestant colleague: “We're told there is no salvation outside the church— nonsense. Nobody can tell me Christ died on Calvary for any select group.”
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Gotta love the mindless, gutless "down-voters" who never actually contribute to the discussion.
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I believe in http://www.jfksgunflash.com/ (http://www.jfksgunflash.com/) theory that Connally shot JFK, because of the bullet physics which were the hallmark of a close range gunshot. It appears he used a snub-nose 38 revolver frame with reinforced barrel for a 0.375 magnum round
The idea that Jackie was a spy (and possibly Jєωιѕн) is just mind-blowing. It answers so many questions and gives the assassination so much more clarity.
Whether she or Connally (or both) shot JFK is immaterial. They were both probably put in that situation to make sure JFK died (plan A and plan B). The deep state doesn't take chances on something like this...if they want JFK dead, they aren't going to leave it to a sniper from 100 yards away...they are going to make CERTAIN he dies (i.e. having 2 shooters sitting right next to the target).
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What I have long found interesting is the fact that "they" felt it important to do the assassination in such a public manner. If they had just wanted Kennedy dead, the easiest to conceal way would have been to spike one of Dr. Feelgood's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Jacobson) shots or something similar, not a gunshot to the head.
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What I have long found interesting is the fact that "they" felt it important to do the assassination in such a public manner. If they had just wanted Kennedy dead, the easiest to conceal way would have been to spike one of Dr. Feelgood's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Jacobson) shots.
Trauma based mind control of the masses.
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What I have long found interesting is the fact that "they" felt it important to do the assassination in such a public manner. If they had just wanted Kennedy dead, the easiest to conceal way would have been to spike one of Dr. Feelgood's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Jacobson) shots or something similar, not a gunshot to the head.
Yeah, it achieved the fear effect of terrorist act.
A ritualistic murder of a “Goyim” leader, in front of the whole nation.
As their unholy book states, “… even the best of the goyim should die”.
тαℓмυdic psy-ops!
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The idea that Jackie was a spy (and possibly Jєωιѕн) is just mind-blowing. It answers so many questions and gives the assassination so much more clarity.
Whether she or Connally (or both) shot JFK is immaterial. They were both probably put in that situation to make sure JFK died (plan A and plan B). The deep state doesn't take chances on something like this...if they want JFK dead, they aren't going to leave it to a sniper from 100 yards away...they are going to make CERTAIN he dies (i.e. having 2 shooters sitting right next to the target).
Yeah, long range rifle shot was way too risky. It was more like a close-in, jew-gangster hit.
But Oswald’s diversion was brilliant. For 5 decades, we looked for the outside shooter!
Likely an old mossad assassin’s trick.
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Ladislaus: I rewatched the Zapruder film, without reading any of the links, and darn if it wasn't Jackie who finished him off. I've always been puzzled by the trajectory of that exit wound, seeming to go upward. Her hand is right behind his head from where the shot would have come, and then she quickly moves her hand with something potentially shiny in it to behind a cushion in the vehicle ... probably to hide/stash the gun. Darn if it doesn't look like Jackie did it.
I've always thought that Ladislaus was a total moron. Now I think that he confirms all my previous suspicions. And all CI contributors who listen to him fall into the same category. Let the 'thumbs down' flow. :laugh1:
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Hollingsworth, as your friend, if you got the jab...I suggest you watch the 3 part Dr Ardis video on Brighteon.com and follow the medical advice to remedy the poison IMMEDIATELY.
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This you had Cushing here, one of the worst heretics in the hierarchy, slapped down even by the Vatican for claiming that Jackie was "free to marry" whomever she pleased.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1968/10/26/furor-over-defense-of-jacqueline-leads/
All right, I'm kind of lost here, she was widowed, wasn't she, in fact, free to remarry whomever she pleased --- as long as he were a man free to marry in the Catholic Church (or, in the case of someone non-Catholic, "free to marry a Catholic")? Isn't the latter part kind of implicit?
I don't know whether Aristotle Onassis was considered as already being in a valid marriage or not. He married a Greek woman (Tina Livanos), presumably in the Greek Orthodox Church, so it would seem to be valid.
Which raises another question: if two Orthodox schismatics marry before someone other than an Orthodox priest, does the Catholic Church consider their marriage valid?
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All right, I'm kind of lost here, she was widowed, wasn't she, in fact, free to remarry whomever she pleased --- as long as he were a man free to marry in the Catholic Church (or, in the case of someone non-Catholic, "free to marry a Catholic")? Isn't the latter part kind of implicit?
I don't know whether Aristotle Onassis was considered as already being in a valid marriage or not. He married a Greek woman (Tina Livanos), presumably in the Greek Orthodox Church, so it would seem to be valid.
Which raises another question: if two Orthodox schismatics marry before someone other than an Orthodox priest, does the Catholic Church consider their marriage valid?
Yes, Onassis was still considered (at least presumed) married by the Church. Even Montini shot down Cushing for this statement.
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I've always thought that Ladislaus was a total moron. Now I think that he confirms all my previous suspicions. And all CI contributors who listen to him fall into the same category. Let the 'thumbs down' flow. :laugh1:
You seem rather obsessed with me. I was in fact listening to someone else whose opinions I respect, unlike yours, which have little value except as a rule of thumb that the opposite is likely true (to at least have a look), but you single me out. Is your grudge / vendetta because of Valtorta or my attempt to be fair to the SSPX?
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You seem rather obsessed with me. I was in fact listening to someone else whose opinions I respect, unlike yours, which have little value except as a rule of thumb that the opposite is likely true (to at least have a look), but you single me out. Is your grudge / vendetta because of Valtorta or my attempt to be fair to the SSPX?
Holly is a Valtorta devotee? :popcorn:
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Holly is a Valtorta devotee? :popcorn:
Yes, that's the subject over which we originally duked it out.
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Now we know that the USA was hijacked by these evil secret societies. It was very brave for JFK to warn people about them. Archbishop Fulton Sheen about these people infiltrating the Church.
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Now we know that the USA was hijacked by these evil secret societies. It was very brave for JFK to warn people about them. Archbishop Fulton Sheen about these people infiltrating the Church.
From a high level view, JFK’s assassination case, was one successful battle of Jerusalem against Babylon.
While the jews and their minions ended JFK’s earthly presence, he had the grace to know he was in danger, and went to Confession. It was just hours before his death.
In the endgame, JFK is smiling in Heaven and the jew gang is very likely writhing in Hell.
“We live to die.”
Says Our Lady, in “The Mystical City of God”
:incense:
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Yes, Onassis was still considered (at least presumed) married by the Church. Even Montini shot down Cushing for this statement.
So are you saying that Cushing's statement should be read as "she can marry anyone she wishes, even if they are already validly married to someone else"?