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Offline spouse of Jesus

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Jennifer Lopez would be ugly...
« on: April 23, 2010, 03:00:23 AM »
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  •   I wanted you to look more deeply into what I call manipulation of ideas of a race, by media. When a race comes to believe itself to be ugly.
    It can change it's own ideas and reject it's own to accept what it considered horrible in an other race.
    some 40 years ago the idea of what a good woman looks like was so different from now. A story writer 'sadeq Hedayat' describes two sisters in one of his short stories
    'Abjee Khanoom'. in that story one of the two sisters was so beautiful, the other too plain to look at. It is how he describes the ugly girl:" She was dark-faced, thin, tall and with big lips." sounds familar? It is exactly how Jennifer Lopez and some other hollywood stars (whom my people admire) look like!
    The pretty girl is said to be:" short, plump, white and her lips were red and samll as a rose bud".
    Now look at some persian painting of "the Lady Sun" and "the Lady of spring" and see the difference.

    http://img.tebyan.net/big/1387/07/992362336014923538125177931713421115393207.jpg

    http://mrsdaystar.blogfa.com/author-mrsdaystar.aspx

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    Offline Raoul76

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    Jennifer Lopez would be ugly...
    « Reply #1 on: April 23, 2010, 12:43:29 PM »
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  • Modern culture would definitely say these ladies need an eyebrow wax.

    I'm not sure standards of beauty have changed all that much.  Was there ever a time when having a giant, twisted honker was considered the norm of beauty?  Is it really just a modern problem that people are having nose jobs or would they have done the same in the 16th century if the technology were around?  I bet you they would have. If someone was considered good-looking who had a big nose, it would be despite the big nose, or because of their personality or radiance.

    In the story there is one plain girl and one beautiful girl.  But the plain girl is not necessarily plain because she is tall and thin with big lips, and the beautiful girl is not necessarily beautiful because she's short and plump.  I don't think the author is setting an ideal of beauty and saying all women should be short and plump.  He's saying this particular short, plump girl happens to be more attractive than her sister.  

    I actually used to know two Sephardic Jєωιѕн sisters -- before I became aware of the "Jєωιѕн problem" -- who fit this exact paradigm.  One was tall, thin and plain and the other was short and plump and with a sensual, baby-doll face and huge breasts, and she of course got all the attention.  But the tall, thin one thought that they were like twins and looked exactly the same even though they were total opposites.

    If you are saying that the worship of women who have inflated lips that look like a baboon's butt is a bizarre modern trend, I'd say you're right.  Angelina Jolie's lips gross me out and they are apparently totally natural.  But other people like them.  That is what is really amazing to me, how different tastes seem to be despite that the world is becoming more homogenized.  

    The real problem is idealizing external instead of internal beauty, no matter what you think is beautiful, or of simply not being able to accept yourself as you are.  But then, what about crooked teeth or women who have a furry, robust mustache?  As bad as all this plastic surgery is, no one complains about depilatories or braces, and that is changing oneself.  So there apparently are definite standards of attractiveness.  Humanity will always be like that.  

    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    Jennifer Lopez would be ugly...
    « Reply #2 on: April 23, 2010, 06:01:29 PM »
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  • Quote from: Raoul76

    I'm not sure standards of beauty have changed all that much.  Was there ever a time when having a giant, twisted honker was considered the norm of beauty?  Is it really just a modern problem that people are having nose jobs or would they have done the same in the 16th century if the technology were around?  I bet you they would have. If someone was considered good-looking who had a big nose, it would be despite the big nose, or because of their personality or radiance.



    LOL. Get off the nose obsession already!