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Traditional Catholic Faith => Fighting Errors in the Modern World => Topic started by: Smedley Butler on May 10, 2019, 08:17:23 AM

Title: Jeff Bezos to go to the Moon
Post by: Smedley Butler on May 10, 2019, 08:17:23 AM
Hilarious.

It's a good thing he owns a movie studio, I guess.

He's gonna need it.

https://www.today.com/video/jeff-bezos-unveils-lunar-lander-to-get-to-the-moon-by-2024-59370053680 (https://www.today.com/video/jeff-bezos-unveils-lunar-lander-to-get-to-the-moon-by-2024-59370053680)
Title: Re: Jeff Bezos to go to the Moon
Post by: Smedley Butler on May 10, 2019, 08:20:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5SlgULv30Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5SlgULv30Y)
Title: Re: Jeff Bezos to go to the Moon
Post by: Ladislaus on May 10, 2019, 08:23:58 AM
Hopefully he'll stay there.
Title: Re: Jeff Bezos to go to the Moon
Post by: Pax Vobis on May 10, 2019, 09:14:05 AM
Ha ha.  Unfortunately, he'll be back.  He's just there to setup a new Amazon Prime distribution center for the rest of the galaxy.
Title: Re: Jeff Bezos to go to the Moon
Post by: Matthew on May 10, 2019, 09:39:13 AM
Consider me a scoffer and a naysayer.

We'll never be able to land on the moon or any other planet God created. God arranged things so as to keep us right here on earth.
Title: Re: Jeff Bezos to go to the Moon
Post by: Kazimierz on May 10, 2019, 12:13:12 PM
Ha ha.  Unfortunately, he'll be back.  He's just there to setup a new Amazon Prime distribution center for the rest of the galaxy.
That should read "Amazon Prime Directive Distribution......"  ;) :D
As for the location, my bet is two tribbles it will be Ceti Alpha VI 1/2. It Khan!!!!! be done.  :P
A daunting enterprise in any case. :D
Title: Re: Jeff Bezos to go to the Moon
Post by: ByzCat3000 on May 10, 2019, 04:33:47 PM
Consider me a scoffer and a naysayer.

We'll never be able to land on the moon or any other planet God created. God arranged things so as to keep us right here on earth.
Is there a theological reason you deny the possibility?
Title: Re: Jeff Bezos to go to the Moon
Post by: Nadir on May 10, 2019, 06:17:40 PM
Is there a theological reason you deny the possibility?
My guess is that God did not mean man to go anywhere else, that earth was quite sufficient to his needs and he had no other "need" except pride.
Remember Creation:
 [26] (http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=26-#x) And he said: Let us make man to our image and likeness: and let him have dominion over the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the air, and the beasts, and the whole earth, and every creeping creature that moveth upon the earth[27] (http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=27-#x) And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them. [28] (http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=28-#x) And God blessed them, saying: Increase and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it, and rule over the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the air, and all living creatures that move upon the earth. [29] (http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=29-#x) And God said: Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed upon the earth, and all trees that have in themselves seed of their own kind, to be your meat: [30] (http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=30-#x) And to all beasts of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to all that move upon the earth, and wherein there is life, that they may have to feed upon. And it was so done.

Notice the bolded words. God says nothing about  having dominion over the moon or other planets, or filling and subduing the moon. 
I expect that Matthew and others could come up with less "fundamentalist" theological reasoning.
Title: Re: Jeff Bezos to go to the Moon
Post by: Smedley Butler on May 10, 2019, 09:13:53 PM
I like the passage that says the terrestrial glory is different from the celestial glory, etc. 

We exist on the terrestrial plane, not the celestial one, and we cannot go there.
Title: Re: Jeff Bezos to go to the Moon
Post by: Nadir on May 10, 2019, 11:19:13 PM
What passage would that be?
Title: Re: Jeff Bezos to go to the Moon
Post by: trad123 on May 11, 2019, 12:43:50 AM
What passage would that be?

1 Corinthians 15

http://drbo.org/chapter/53015.htm

Quote
[40] And there are bodies celestial, and bodies terrestrial: but, one is the glory of the celestial, and another of the terrestrial.[41] One is the glory of the sun, another the glory of the moon, and another the glory of the stars. For star differeth from star in glory.
Title: Re: Jeff Bezos to go to the Moon
Post by: ByzCat3000 on May 11, 2019, 01:38:15 AM
My guess is that God did not mean man to go anywhere else, that earth was quite sufficient to his needs and he had no other "need" except pride.
Remember Creation:
 [26] (http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=26-#x) And he said: Let us make man to our image and likeness: and let him have dominion over the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the air, and the beasts, and the whole earth, and every creeping creature that moveth upon the earth. [27] (http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=27-#x) And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them. [28] (http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=28-#x) And God blessed them, saying: Increase and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it, and rule over the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the air, and all living creatures that move upon the earth. [29] (http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=29-#x) And God said: Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed upon the earth, and all trees that have in themselves seed of their own kind, to be your meat: [30] (http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=1&ch=1&l=30-#x) And to all beasts of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to all that move upon the earth, and wherein there is life, that they may have to feed upon. And it was so done.

Notice the bolded words. God says nothing about  having dominion over the moon or other planets, or filling and subduing the moon.
I expect that Matthew and others could come up with less "fundamentalist" theological reasoning.
Even if I accept your interpretation here (and I'm not certain of it) I think you can plausibly argue that temporarily traveling to a place and spending a couple days there (leaving aside whether or not the moon landings really did happen) is different than "taking dominion over."  I think at the least, you'd have to actually establish a colony some other place to truly be said to be taking dominion over it.  If I take a trip to Italy to visit, am I taking dominion over it?  meh.
Title: Re: Jeff Bezos to go to the Moon
Post by: Nadir on May 11, 2019, 03:43:21 AM
Even if I accept your interpretation here (and I'm not certain of it) I think you can plausibly argue that temporarily traveling to a place and spending a couple days there (leaving aside whether or not the moon landings really did happen) is different than "taking dominion over."  I think at the least, you'd have to actually establish a colony some other place to truly be said to be taking dominion over it.  If I take a trip to Italy to visit, am I taking dominion over it?  meh.
Byz, it's not an interpretation just a thought I put out there. I said "my guess is..."
Just throwing out there for whoever wants to have a pick.
But, hey! Didn't America "take dominion over" when they hoisted their flag? ;)
Italy doesn't count because it's already been taken dominion of.