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Dawn · « **on:** November 12, 2010, 06:10:01 PM »

Alright I am a dunce and can not find the other posts on this John Birch Society. Please be patient with me. What Catholic groups are affiliated with JBS? I mean none should be I only looked quickly but they are nothing but the right-side of the naturalist/Americanist powers that are running this world.

Alexandria · « **Reply #1 on:** November 12, 2010, 06:13:38 PM »

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IMO, the JBS are controlled opposition: they mix truth with lies, and people naively think they are 'conservatives' whose aim is to get back to 'Constitutional' government. They are not an organization for true Catholics to be involved with. And I would suspect, extrapolating from my own limited experience, that there are many people in traditional chapels who are being led down the river road by them.

Specifically, (1) their founder Robert Welch always denied that the conspiracy they talk about was in any sense a Jєωιѕн conspiracy; (2) they know what side their bread is buttered on and are highly pro-Zionist, completely minimizing the threat from that quarter. They even made apologies and cried crocodile tears for poor Jonathan Pollard, wasting away in prison merely for having spied for our ally Israel; (3) they are always talking Ludwig von Mises/Austrian school economics, which is the delight of the filthy rich corporate CEOs, the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds -- and not at all congruent with Catholic social justice.

This is something I copied that Innocenza wrote on the other JBS thread in the General Section.

It may be nothing or it may be something. I have known traditional priests affiliated with the JBS and more than a few traditionals who either were or still are connected with it.

P.S. Would you like to wear my cap for awhile? :tinfoil:

Telesphorus · « **Reply #2 on:** November 12, 2010, 06:31:38 PM »

The current visible director of the JBS is a trad chapel goer, I'm told.

Dawn · « **Reply #3 on:** November 12, 2010, 08:25:03 PM »

:tinfoil: There how does it look on me!
Alright, now I think I will go back to this

because I can only see this thread going south on me real quick.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #4 on:** November 12, 2010, 08:47:55 PM »

Quote from: Dawn

What Catholic groups are affiliated with JBS?

sspv

then look in general discussion for Alexandria's JBS thread

:detective: :reading: :detective: :reading: :detective: :reading:

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #5 on:** November 13, 2010, 10:40:35 AM »

Art Thompson, I'm told, is an anti-Catholic, and I believe he is a Mormon. I won't go into who I heard this from, but this man came over to this one person's house, and spewed a lot of anti-catholic rhetoric. This was before he was "CEO" of JBS. This person reported this incident to some others long time in the JBS anonymously.

Years later, he became "CEO." He is not a Catholic, he's quite anti-Catholic, and if he's a Mormon, that would say a lot, because most Mormons are Freemasons. If you've seen any of my posts about Glenn Beck, you might have seen the link I posted regarding SLC and the Satanic imagery contained within their "Temple."

Gary Benoit, the editor of The New American, is a Traditional Catholic. I don't know about McManus. I'll ask some friends.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #6 on:** November 13, 2010, 10:52:20 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

The current visible director of the JBS is a trad chapel goer, I'm told.

Yes he is. His name's McManus (or something like that). But yes he is a trad and goes to an SSPX chapel. I cant say what his religious beliefs are, but being the director of such an organization as the JBS, I dont trust him.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #7 on:** November 13, 2010, 10:58:51 AM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

Art Thompson, I'm told, is an anti-Catholic, and I believe he is a Mormon. I won't go into who I heard this from, but this man came over to this one person's house, and spewed a lot of anti-catholic rhetoric. This was before he was "CEO" of JBS. This person reported this incident to some others long time in the JBS anonymously.

Years later, he became "CEO." He is not a Catholic, he's quite anti-Catholic, and if he's a Mormon, that would say a lot, because most Mormons are Freemasons. If you've seen any of my posts about Glenn Beck, you might have seen the link I posted regarding SLC and the Satanic imagery contained within their "Temple."

Gary Benoit, the editor of The New American, is a Traditional Catholic. I don't know about McManus. I'll ask some friends.

I was told by one of the members of the JBS that the majority of the members of the John Birch Society are indeed Mormons.

Alexandria · « **Reply #8 on:** November 13, 2010, 11:35:03 AM »

Quote from: Dawn

:tinfoil: There how does it look on me!
Alright, now I think I will go back to this because I can only see this thread going south on me real quick.

My, Dawn, most becoming! However, if you don't mind me saying so, and not to toot my own horn, but it does look better on me. :tinfoil:

Alexandria · « **Reply #9 on:** November 13, 2010, 11:36:54 AM »

Quote from: Catholic Samurai

Quote from: parentsfortruth
Art Thompson, I'm told, is an anti-Catholic, and I believe he is a Mormon. I won't go into who I heard this from, but this man came over to this one person's house, and spewed a lot of anti-catholic rhetoric. This was before he was "CEO" of JBS. This person reported this incident to some others long time in the JBS anonymously.

Years later, he became "CEO." He is not a Catholic, he's quite anti-Catholic, and if he's a Mormon, that would say a lot, because most Mormons are Freemasons. If you've seen any of my posts about Glenn Beck, you might have seen the link I posted regarding SLC and the Satanic imagery contained within their "Temple."

Gary Benoit, the editor of The New American, is a Traditional Catholic. I don't know about McManus. I'll ask some friends.

I was told by one of the members of the JBS that the majority of the members of the John Birch Society are indeed Mormons.

Whatever are traditional Catholics doing affiliated with the JBS in any way, shape or form?

Elizabeth · « **Reply #10 on:** November 13, 2010, 11:40:49 AM »

Quote from: Catholic Samurai

I was told by one of the members of the JBS that the majority of the members of the John Birch Society are indeed Mormons.

They piggy-back or cross over whichever group serves their purpose, it seems. Spying, espionage, surveillance and so forth are apparently sort of "cultural trademarks" of this group. Traditional Catholics are/have been well represented in this group. (I am not surprised that Mormons would find a home in JBS, but IMO their greater numbers only reflect the longer history and numbers of Mormons. In my experience, JBS families behave just like Mormons, but that's just me.

"The internal spying nature of the John Birch Society became known when its espionage against private citizens in connection with the LA Police Department was discovered:

"The Belmont Brotherhood docuмents that the founding JBS National Council was intrenched in the Eastern Establishment it purported to despise. Nor is its progeny, the Council for National Policy, a conservative, anti-Communist organization, but rather a globalist organization, anti-American and unpatriotic to the extreme. Noting the curious cross-over tendencies between right and left in the World Anti-Communist League, authors of Inside the League offer the following insightful analysis:

' The first enemy for both political extremes is the center. Both ultra-leftists and ultra-rightists have the same primary objective: to polarize the country to implement the breakdown of the governing system, and ultimately to create a situation of chaos where armed conflict will be between the right and the left, the center, having been discredited by its failure to prevent it...' [color added]

"Various volumes of Who's Who in Americaand other sources docuмent that many founders of the John Birch Society were also high ranking Freemasons, members of the CFR, and other subversive organizations."

http://angelfire.com/journal2/watch-unto-prayer/belmont.html

Elizabeth · « **Reply #11 on:** November 13, 2010, 11:52:44 AM »

Quote from: Alexandria

Whatever are traditional Catholics doing affiliated with the JBS in any way, shape or form?

The JBS people may be "big shots" in the chapels ?

Or "Sacramentalism"?

Alexandria · « **Reply #12 on:** November 13, 2010, 12:41:00 PM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

Quote from: Alexandria

Whatever are traditional Catholics doing affiliated with the JBS in any way, shape or form?

The JBS people may be "big shots" in the chapels ?

Or "Sacramentalism"?

I am dense, Elizabeth, and I don't understand. Would you be so kind to expound on this?

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #13 on:** November 13, 2010, 01:10:25 PM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

Quote from: Alexandria

Whatever are traditional Catholics doing affiliated with the JBS in any way, shape or form?

The JBS people may be "big shots" in the chapels ?

Or "Sacramentalism"?

Well I havent seen or heard anything to support that (at least in the chapels Im familiar with), but I find that the "recruiters" are among the lesser people. I havent heard of any big-wigs being active in the JBS.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #14 on:** November 13, 2010, 01:12:29 PM »

Hi Alexandria, I agree with your questioning of Catholics having anything to do with JBS.

In order to give the benefit of the doubt, I suggest that the unwary may not understand the problematic nature of JBS, especially if they go to a chapel in which the "pecking order" has a history of association with JBS.

Then, there are the "sacramentalists" who will tolerate anything so long as they have access to what they believe are the only valid Catholic Sacraments left on Earth.

(I wish we could combine all of these threads to your original topic.)

Hey Catholic Samauri, there is one big shot who immediately comes to mind, but let me make certain before I use his name.