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Traditional Catholic Faith => Fighting Errors in the Modern World => Topic started by: josefamenendez on November 02, 2025, 08:39:07 AM

Title: ISOC-The Making of a Martyr? The Charlie Kirk Story
Post by: josefamenendez on November 02, 2025, 08:39:07 AM
Laura Wood of the Thinking Housewife speaks with Judith Sharpe of ISOC.ws

https://www.isoc.ws/
Title: Re: ISOC-The Making of a Martyr? The Charlie Kirk Story
Post by: Mark 79 on November 02, 2025, 06:31:59 PM
Laura's interview was superb!


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The Making of a Martyr? The Charlie Kirk Story!
Laura Woord interview on ISOC
you can listen on the webpage, download it there: https://www.isoc.ws/. or download it as the attached mp3 file below.

So many trads lead such an insular closeted life that they have insufficient life experience to “connect the dots.” I was truly impressed with Laura’s grasp of the “outside” world and that she pierced the Kabbalistic manipulations afoot with Kirk and so-called conservatism.  Instead of being side-tracked by the subjective and ever-changing “right versus left” trap, she went right to the heart of the objective “right versus wrong” reality, the reality upon which our eternal fates depend.

Title: Re: ISOC-The Making of a Martyr? The Charlie Kirk Story
Post by: Yeti on November 03, 2025, 01:51:09 PM
I think it's fair enough to call him a hero by standing up for the natural law even at the risk of his life, but he is absolutely not a martyr.

And by the word "hero" I mean a hero on a natural level, similar to a solider who gave his life fighting for his country. But this is no way establishes any sort of probability about his eternal salvation. We are told by God that in order to be saved we must belong to His Church and live a life free from mortal sin.
Title: Re: ISOC-The Making of a Martyr? The Charlie Kirk Story
Post by: The Mrs on November 03, 2025, 02:20:54 PM
I think it's fair enough to call him a hero by standing up for the natural law even at the risk of his life, but he is absolutely not a martyr.

And by the word "hero" I mean a hero on a natural level, similar to a solider who gave his life fighting for his country. But this is no way establishes any sort of probability about his eternal salvation. We are told by God that in order to be saved we must belong to His Church and live a life free from mortal sin.
I think this was a little “tongue in cheek” headline, if you listen to the interview they clearly don’t think he’s a martyr or even dead for that matter.
Title: Re: ISOC-The Making of a Martyr? The Charlie Kirk Story
Post by: Mark 79 on November 03, 2025, 08:07:16 PM
I think it's fair enough to call him a hero by standing up for the natural law even at the risk of his life, but he is absolutely not a martyr.

And by the word "hero" I mean a hero on a natural level, similar to a solider who gave his life fighting for his country. But this is no way establishes any sort of probability about his eternal salvation. We are told by God that in order to be saved we must belong to His Church and live a life free from mortal sin.
If you listen to the outrageous ʝʊdɛօ-Zionist anti-Catholic positions espoused by Kirk, you'd be ashamed to say that on a Catholic forum.
Title: Re: ISOC-The Making of a Martyr? The Charlie Kirk Story
Post by: Simeon on November 05, 2025, 07:29:38 PM
Laura Wood of the Thinking Housewife speaks with Judith Sharpe of ISOC.ws

https://www.isoc.ws/

I was a little hesitant to tune in to this because I thought the ladies might be pushing the narrative that Kirk actually died on Sept. 10th. 

How refreshing to see that they aren't buying it!!! They see right through the flagrant BS. 

Thanks for sharing this, Josefa!
Title: Re: ISOC-The Making of a Martyr? The Charlie Kirk Story
Post by: Yeti on November 06, 2025, 04:35:48 PM
they clearly don’t think he’s [...] dead

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:confused:

Don't think he's dead?

I don't have time to listen to the whole episode, but would you be able to just give me the gist of this? Like, where is he now? Why did he fake his death? And how? Etc. :popcorn:
Title: Re: ISOC-The Making of a Martyr? The Charlie Kirk Story
Post by: The Mrs on November 07, 2025, 05:32:08 AM
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:confused:

Don't think he's dead?

I don't have time to listen to the whole episode, but would you be able to just give me the gist of this? Like, where is he now? Why did he fake his death? And how? Etc. :popcorn:
Here’s a very brief summary of why people don’t think he is dead…no body autopsy, no funeral or burial, no one knows what happened to his (supposed) dead body, no EMT’s were able to assist, they whisked his body away quickly, no blood trail when they did this, irregular blood spurt from where he was shot (military men stating if shot from that angle blood was come out like a geyser) and head would have been blown off if it came from the weapon they claimed was used), his wife’s bizarre behavior, the murder scene covered with concrete shortly after to hide evidence.  Peggy Hall (The Healthy American on YouTube) has excellent videos about this.  
Title: Re: ISOC-The Making of a Martyr? The Charlie Kirk Story
Post by: The Mrs on November 07, 2025, 05:42:29 AM
As for the the reason why, multiple reasons, but probably the most prominent being laws controlling hate speech being pushed and encouraged on both sides of the aisle.  

Where is he now?  Who knows but (I know I will sound cooky) some say his usual face was a mask made by the CIA which would explain why there are zero pics from his childhood.  
Title: Re: ISOC-The Making of a Martyr? The Charlie Kirk Story
Post by: The Mrs on November 07, 2025, 05:46:14 AM
https://youtu.be/Q0uAh02-vPU?si=7YBY9Oqy7Kkp5qSB