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Is There A Place for "White Pride"?
« on: May 20, 2011, 11:45:47 AM »
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  • At Google images, under "white pride," you will find pictures of skinheads and neo Nazis.  For "black pride" you will find flags, fists and attractive ladies with Afro haircuts.

    Clearly someone doesn't want people of European origin to have a sense of coherent identity.

    White Pride is not White Supremicism. The article below is awkward in places but raises an important issue: Is there a place for a European racial consciousness"? Every ethnic group is allowed to organize to protect their interests. Every ethnic group but Europeans.



    Is There A Place for "White Pride"?
    by Struggling White Male
    (henrymakow.com)


    Last Sunday night, as I was walking down the street with my friends from church, I observed two of the group strangely walking almost hand in hand. It took a couple hours and questioning others to figure out that the tallish, statuesque, Swedish girl and the shorter, two-thirds-her-weight East Asian man were a couple.

    This was the result of several things and physical attraction was not one of them. She was able to get a very good job right after university in accounting, receiving the benefits of femalehood in both university and the job market. He comes from wealth and doesn't have to work. She is not interested in men of lesser income. And she is a leader-in-training in a very multi-cultural church and now is taking that "next step" of entering into inter-racial marriage. And he has his trophy white wife. This is the white race fading into oblivion.

    The five white guys walking behind her, all struggling to make a living with neither the time nor the money to date, are out of the picture. They are men who can't compete financially and who would ask for submission anyway. But then society turns to us white dudes and points out our options. We can also marry Asian women (or from any other part of the globe)!

    But I can't and all because I rejected socialism. Around 20 years ago, I had made the momentous decision to reject socialism for a number of reasons - love of country and concern for national debt, seeing what socialism did to my own family and community, and not wanting so much government control.

    But more importantly, I did it for myself to build character, take personal responsibility and stay close to my God. I learned to live life without government services and therefore to live life with family in mind. No longer could I say to a family member (or to myself), "Just go to the doctor." For who was going to pay? If I didn't have the money, then those words could not come out of my mouth.
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    I started to understand what true maturity and "taking one's place in the community" meant. I actually started to understand many different things, especially Victorian and 19th century American culture.

    What surprised me though was that with this understanding I became conscious of my own race and my responsibility to it as an extension of my family unit. I don't consider my own race superior but I do consider its members my first responsibility.

    To understand this responsibility here are some questions I ask, directly or indirectly, of the people around me as indicators of racial self-esteem no matter what race they are.

    1) Do you consider the opposite sex members of your race to the most beautiful/handsome in the world?

    2) Are you concerned about the debt of your race (not country at this point)?

    3) Are you willing to sacrifice time,money and strength for your race first?

    4) Do you readily admit to the weaknesses/strengths of your race (sloth, drunkenness, physical prowess, intelligence)?

    5) Do you consider the language(s) of your race to be worthy of continuation and effort (or is another language more important)?

    6) Do you partake/participate in the art of your race (or do you disdain it)?

    7) Do you see potential for your race (or must it merge with another race to be successful)?

    8) Do you want to live in the same neighbourhood as your race (no matter what problems exist)?

    9) Do you buy from your race and support its economy (or do you have more status with others' products)?

    10) Do you address the same-sex peers of your race as brothers/sisters?

    11) Are you disturbed if the children of your race are adopted by another race?

    12) Do you keep up on the politics/cultural changes of your race?

    13) If you pray, do you pray for your race first?

    Those who engage in inter-racial relationships live for the moment, never considering the past or the future, totally ignoring the struggles and hardships and gains of their race and thumbing their nose at the various levels of authority that exist in every culture. Regrettably I have encouraged couples in the past to enter into such unions.


    To show how far we have gone into racial oblivion, I had a strange conversation with non-European psychiatric nurse working in Toronto. She told me to my face that anyone who speaks of sacrifice and country love has mental problems. This is a person capable of making professional judgments and diagnosing people in the eyes of the law. If you had told me years ago when I lived among my own people in the west  that I would have a foreigner telling me not to love my own country and that I had psychiatric problems if I did, I would have called you a liar.

    In conclusion, I dedicate this article to those men and women of sacrifice from years ago who more and more are appearing as bright shining stars in an increasingly darkening world.

    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

    "We must risk something for God!"~Hernan Cortes


    TEJANO AND PROUD!

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    Is There A Place for "White Pride"?
    « Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 01:45:46 PM »
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  • I think Europeans ought not to be jumbled together into one category. Each country has its own cultural heritage and history (Spain, Germany, Sweden, Belgium, Luxemburg, Denmark, etc.; the British seem to consider themselves as distinct from the Continental Europeans, as well they should; same goes for the Scots and Irish). Even their liturgical usages were a bit different from one another before the reforms of Pope St. Pius V.

    Any sort of ethnocentrism is neither inherently bad nor good, but can become bad or good depending on the motives of its adherents. Racial supremacy that lead to sins against the 5th Commandment (whether "white," "black," "brown," or whatever, supremacy) is immoral, but ethnocentrism that brings forth wholesome patriotic values and encourages harmony in one's community within the bounds of Catholic charity is good.



    Please ignore all that I have written regarding sedevacantism.


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    Is There A Place for "White Pride"?
    « Reply #2 on: May 20, 2011, 01:47:01 PM »
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  • Who is protecting the 2 mexicans that attacked Bryan Stow outside Dodger Stadium? Hundreds of people and cameras saw the car and ID'd the driver and a '10 yr old' who was in the car as it sped away. No mention has been made anywhere in the media of the license plate #-- which must have been seen.

    Can anyone imagine what the press coverage would be if 2 whites stomped on a mexican or a nigerian?

     Who is protecting these animals and why?
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    Is There A Place for "White Pride"?
    « Reply #3 on: May 20, 2011, 02:18:53 PM »
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  • LA Times has been representing this case as Dodger fans pounding on a Giants fan. It seems that MSM will not touch the racial aspects of this attack with a bargepole. The message to mexican gangsters is obvious-- stomp on a white man and U will be protected. But then it has been open season on white people since at least the OJ case.

    I can't wait to be called a 'racist'.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    Is There A Place for "White Pride"?
    « Reply #4 on: May 20, 2011, 02:26:18 PM »
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  • Animals goes a bit far roscoe. Unless of course you're willing to admit the same term can be turned on Caucasians (or any other race of course).

    As far as the most stereotypically "racist" race, I would have to say that its either the Han Chinese or the Japanese.
     





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    Is There A Place for "White Pride"?
    « Reply #5 on: May 20, 2011, 02:52:04 PM »
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  • Here is a link to the story for those unawares. Notice how it is known that there is a 'ten yr old' in the car but the license plate # is not given by the communist Nancy Grace-- or anyone else for that matter.

    http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/29/we-want-justice-for-bryan-stow

    For the record I do know a few white people that could be described as animals.

    Notice how the 2nd suspect is being described as possibly 'white'.  :roll-laugh1:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    Is There A Place for "White Pride"?
    « Reply #6 on: May 20, 2011, 02:59:03 PM »
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  • OTOH a true Hispanic from Spain is indeed a white person.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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    Is There A Place for "White Pride"?
    « Reply #7 on: May 20, 2011, 03:13:06 PM »
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  • Roscoe doesn't even think there's such thing as a racist. That's pretty strange...


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    Is There A Place for "White Pride"?
    « Reply #8 on: May 20, 2011, 03:19:21 PM »
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  • Quote from: Hobbledehoy
    I think Europeans ought not to be jumbled together into one category.


    The problem with that line of thinking is that it ignores the reality behind classifications.

    Nothing is going to stop Blacks or American Indians or sub-continentals from being considered as each belonging to their own category.

    White Europeans are a category.  You know how it can be proved? ;)

    Apply DeMorgan's law.  Everyone know what it means to be non-white or off-white.  You don't see any non-whites or even off-whites who don't know they aren't white.

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    Is There A Place for "White Pride"?
    « Reply #9 on: May 20, 2011, 04:35:00 PM »
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  • My wife, who is no deceased, was Filipino.  I would find any suggestion that I should find European women more attractive than I found her just because they were European strange to say the least.  And a bit offensive.  
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #10 on: May 20, 2011, 04:39:28 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    My wife, who is no deceased, was Filipino.  I would find any suggestion that I should find European women more attractive than I found her just because they were European strange to say the least.


    May your wife rest in piece.  :pray:

    You should be able to separate the fact that your wife was filipino from the question of attractiveness in general.

     
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    And a bit offensive.  


    Do you really?

    Suppose a man had a wife who had  put on weight or who was rather aged.  Would it be offensive for someone to suggest that women who not fat and who are young are more attractive?


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    Is There A Place for "White Pride"?
    « Reply #11 on: May 20, 2011, 07:49:19 PM »
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  • Well, I ain't gonna touch this with a ten-foot pole.

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    « Reply #12 on: May 20, 2011, 08:47:22 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    My wife, who is no deceased, was Filipino.  I would find any suggestion that I should find European women more attractive than I found her just because they were European strange to say the least.  And a bit offensive.  


    I'm so sorry for you that you lost your wife. That must have been really hard to go through.

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    « Reply #13 on: May 21, 2011, 09:43:11 AM »
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  • Telesphorus and Spiritus Sanctus,

    Thank you both for your condolences.  She died several years ago.  We married young and had a wonderful life together.  It became even more wonderful as we both evolved from minimally practicing Catholics to taking every aspect of our faith seriously.  I am grateful that all our children were grown when she died.

    In response to your specific questions, Telesphorus, I can separate the general from the particular, of course.  I don't not find European women any more attractive, generally speaking, that women of Asian or African descent.   Someone gaining weight, which is at best unfortunate and at worst a result of unhealthy habits, can hardly be compared to race.  Some race is the natural condition of every human being.  In fact, our human race is what is biologically and theologically central to our racial identity.  

    I plan to pursue ordination to the permanent diaconate  when I retire, hopefully next year.  Therefore I am not really open to marrying again.  However, if I were to become convinced that God had other plans for the rest of my life, I would care about being able to build a common life together based on common faith.  I would care about finding the woman attractive physically, although at my age this is less important that it would have been previous.  Whether the woman was white, black, or Asian could not matter less to me.  This is not some misbegotten example of political correctness.  I believe that the Word became flesh, not white flesh
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #14 on: May 21, 2011, 10:21:47 AM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    In response to your specific questions, Telesphorus, I can separate the general from the particular, of course.  I don't not find European women any more attractive, generally speaking, that women of Asian or African descent.  


    I'm sorry but I find that difficult to believe.

     
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    Someone gaining weight, which is at best unfortunate and at worst a result of unhealthy habits, can hardly be compared to race.  


    Try to understand, I wasn't comparing gaining weight to being of a different race.  I was simply asking a question that should point out the reason that taking offense is absurd.  You suggested it is a bit offensive to you that someone might say that whites should naturally find other whites more attractive than non-whites, because your wife was not white.  I was pointing out that the characteristics of a man's wife should not factor into whether or not someone finds other women with those characteristics more or less attractive.  If a man has a wife with a characteristic that others find less attractive, and believe should be considered less attractive in general, that is no cause for someone to be offended if other people point out that that characteristic is less attractive.  

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    Some race is the natural condition of every human being.


    As are many other characteristics, which are natural, some are more attractive than others.  Not better or worse, but more or less attractive.

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    This is not some misbegotten example of political correctness.  I believe that the Word became flesh, not white flesh


    We're talking about values in the natural order, not the supernatural order.  When someone judges about what sort of match is a good match, there is the matter of faith to consider but there are also natural values to consider.  

     

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