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Offline happenby

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Is the Sun 93,000,000 mi away? Nope.
« on: September 16, 2017, 09:36:29 AM »
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    • Heliocentric model is a lie.  :boxer:
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    Re: Is the Sun 93,000,000 mi away? Nope.
    « Reply #1 on: September 16, 2017, 11:03:55 AM »
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    • That's an interesting point.

    You'd also want to factor in when you fly in an airplane, you cruise at X,000 feet, and how much bigger is the sun? And extrapolate from there.
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    Re: Is the Sun 93,000,000 mi away? Nope.
    « Reply #2 on: September 16, 2017, 01:15:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: happenby on September 16, 2017, 09:36:29 AM
    Heliocentric model is a lie.  :boxer:
    So why don't you give us an estimate of the correct distance and size of the Sun... you won't, because a first grader with elementary knowledge of physics would shred you. You wouldn't be able to explain the energy emitted by the sun 24/7/365 for at least 6,000 years.
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    Re: Is the Sun 93,000,000 mi away? Nope.
    « Reply #3 on: September 16, 2017, 01:16:32 PM »
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    • Nonsense. Explaining how that image is wrong requires at least 5th grade geometry.
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    Re: Is the Sun 93,000,000 mi away? Nope.
    « Reply #4 on: September 16, 2017, 01:24:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: St Ignatius on September 16, 2017, 01:15:17 PM
    You wouldn't be able to explain the energy emitted by the sun 24/7/365 for at least 6,000 years.

    Why would it take at least 6000 years to explain the energy emitted by the sun? Or is your grammer here imprecise, and you meant to say something else?
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    Re: Is the Sun 93,000,000 mi away? Nope.
    « Reply #5 on: September 16, 2017, 01:30:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on September 16, 2017, 11:03:55 AM
    That's an interesting point.

    You'd also want to factor in when you fly in an airplane, you cruise at X,000 feet, and how much bigger is the sun? And extrapolate from there.

    You bring up a good question. The sun should appear to be larger the closer we get to it, if it were not 93,000,000 miles away. At least I think that's what you're are asking about.
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    Re: Is the Sun 93,000,000 mi away? Nope.
    « Reply #6 on: September 16, 2017, 01:36:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on September 16, 2017, 01:24:02 PM
    Why would it take at least 6000 years to explain the energy emitted by the sun? Or is your grammer here imprecise, and you meant to say something else?
    Have you ever put a log on the fire?
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    Re: Is the Sun 93,000,000 mi away? Nope.
    « Reply #7 on: September 16, 2017, 02:24:34 PM »
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    • The problem proving the size of the sun being different when closer in an air plane is that for the observer viewing from the plane, the sun would be maybe 5 or 10 miles closer than it would be to the observer on the ground. If the sun measures around 3000 miles up, there won't be a measurable difference from 3000 or 2990 miles.
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    Re: Is the Sun 93,000,000 mi away? Nope.
    « Reply #8 on: September 16, 2017, 02:25:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: St Ignatius on September 16, 2017, 01:15:17 PM
    So why don't you give us an estimate of the correct distance and size of the Sun... you won't, because a first grader with elementary knowledge of physics would shred you. You wouldn't be able to explain the energy emitted by the sun 24/7/365 for at least 6,000 years.
    It is so simple that the sun is close; I know if you will be able to understand. ;D
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    Re: Is the Sun 93,000,000 mi away? Nope.
    « Reply #9 on: September 16, 2017, 02:26:13 PM »
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    Re: Is the Sun 93,000,000 mi away? Nope.
    « Reply #10 on: September 16, 2017, 02:38:13 PM »
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    • The reason the sun appears 'in' the clouds is because of perspective (viewing from below). Clouds precede it's position and are also beyond it's position, yet the sun remains well above the clouds. The hot spot on the clouds and the fact clouds can be seen beyond the sun is proof it isn't 93,000,000 miles away but relatively close.
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    Re: Is the Sun 93,000,000 mi away? Nope.
    « Reply #11 on: September 16, 2017, 03:05:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: St Ignatius on September 16, 2017, 01:15:17 PM
    So why don't you give us an estimate of the correct distance and size of the Sun... you won't, because a first grader with elementary knowledge of physics would shred you. You wouldn't be able to explain the energy emitted by the sun 24/7/365 for at least 6,000 years.
    People understood the sun well before our time. Scripture explains how Joshua stopped the close-to-earth sun and moon over two specific places on earth: Joshua 10:12 "Then Josue spoke to the Lord, in the day that he delivered the Amorrhite in the sight of the children of Israel, and he said before them: Move not, O sun, toward Gabaon, nor thou, O moon, toward the valley of Ajalon. " Just because some say it took 6000 years to understand the sun is 93,00,00 miles away, doesn't mean it's true. Deriding people for your misconceptions is to your shame.
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    Re: Is the Sun 93,000,000 mi away? Nope.
    « Reply #12 on: September 16, 2017, 03:38:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: St Ignatius on September 16, 2017, 01:15:17 PM
    So why don't you give us an estimate of the correct distance and size of the Sun... you won't, because a first grader with elementary knowledge of physics would shred you. You wouldn't be able to explain the energy emitted by the sun 24/7/365 for at least 6,000 years.
    Golly, you crack me up.
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    Re: Is the Sun 93,000,000 mi away? Nope.
    « Reply #13 on: September 16, 2017, 03:43:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on September 16, 2017, 11:03:55 AM
    That's an interesting point.

    You'd also want to factor in when you fly in an airplane, you cruise at X,000 feet, and how much bigger is the sun? And extrapolate from there.
    I can extrapolate.
    I fly frequently in the years since I became a flat earther. I always ride in a windowseat now for this reason.
    On midday flights, you can take great photos of the sun at zenith (midpoint, or "high noon") when you fly under it. The sun appears bigger at zenith from your aircraft vantage point than it does at zenith from on the ground.
    Think about that for a minute.
    If average cruising altitude is 36,000 feet (6.8 miles) why does the sun look bigger, if you are only a little over six miles closer?
    Because it's not that far away!
    If the sun was 93 MILLION miles away, being 6.8 miles closer is NOT going to change its appearance.
    But, it does, so that means it is much, much closer than 93M miles.
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    Re: Is the Sun 93,000,000 mi away? Nope.
    « Reply #14 on: September 16, 2017, 04:19:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Tradplorable on September 16, 2017, 03:43:07 PM
    I can extrapolate.
    I fly frequently in the years since I became a flat earther. I always ride in a windowseat now for this reason.
    On midday flights, you can take great photos of the sun at zenith (midpoint, or "high noon") when you fly under it. The sun appears bigger at zenith from your aircraft vantage point than it does at zenith from on the ground.
    Think about that for a minute.
    If average cruising altitude is 36,000 feet (6.8 miles) why does the sun look bigger, if you are only a little over six miles closer?
    Because it's not that far away!
    If the sun was 93 MILLION miles away, being 6.8 miles closer is NOT going to change its appearance.
    But, it does, so that means it is much, much closer than 93M miles.
    Thank you Tradplorable. Fascinating.
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