Author Topic: Is Milo Yiannopoulos authentic or a concocted media character? (Read 7805 times)

Croixalist · « **Reply #30 on:** February 08, 2017, 10:06:02 AM »

Like Voris, he was already presenting himself as "Catholic enough" to masquerade as Catholic pundit before anyone even really knew about his ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity. The conversion talk is an attempt to lure more conservative Catholics over to his camp. Let's use the best case scenario: he miraculously converts and officially renounces his gαyness. Like Voris, he will enjoy the sympathy of those who love the sinner not the sin and will continue to enjoy a very public life only this time as a great defender of the Faith! No public penance necessary for all his rhetoric and open contempt for the Church on the issue. All is forgiven! Let him help us help ourselves by leading us on toward our cultural salvation...

He needs to disappear from the public scene. Let his life be one long penance for the sin that cries to Heaven for vengeance. Let him only open his mouth in condemnation of his former lifestyle but then only as a private citizen. Let him cease to be a pop culture figure. Let him give up the spotlight, give up on the money train that comes with it and do something else with his life. If we allow him to start speaking for Catholicism while protecting him from the consequences of a public life of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, we will be in no small measure condoning it. We should forgive, but we should not forego due punishment.

Even if there will ever be such a "conversion", my skepticism remains. sɛҳuąƖ vices are extremely difficult to get rid of. ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is a sɛҳuąƖ vice wrapped up in a satanic rejection of the natural order. To use his own words, such a "dangerous fαɢɢօt" ought not be tolerated in public even after conversion, no matter how genuine it may be. I would no sooner hire a "reformed" pedophile as a babysitter. There's a good reason why these sorts of sins were punishable by death back in the day. Not only are they deeply ingrained once they are habitually committed, but the very thought of them is a scandal to the mind for all those around them. The fact that this does not invoke horror in most people today, even "conservatives", indicates the amount of mind-rape which ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and all its attendant sɛҳuąƖ perversions are guilty of on an international level.

Cantarella · « **Reply #31 on:** February 08, 2017, 10:16:40 AM »

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He's an authentic ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ and that's enough for me to discredit him as a legitimate "conservative".

Same here.

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Even if there will ever be such a "conversion", my skepticism remains. sɛҳuąƖ vices are extremely difficult to get rid of. ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is a sɛҳuąƖ vice wrapped up in a satanic rejection of the natural order. To use his own words, such a "dangerous fαɢɢօt" ought not be tolerated in public even after conversion, no matter how genuine it may be. I would no sooner hire a "reformed" pedophile as a babysitter. There's a good reason why these sorts of sins were punishable by death back in the day. Not only are they deeply ingrained once they are habitually committed, but the very thought of them is a scandal to the mind for all those around them. The fact that this does not invoke horror in most people today, even "conservatives", indicates the amount of mind-rape which ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and all its attendant sɛҳuąƖ perversions are guilty of on an international level.

Well said! :applause:

Incredulous · « **Reply #32 on:** February 08, 2017, 11:43:13 AM »

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He's an authentic ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ and that's enough for me to discredit him as a legitimate "conservative". I don't believe anybody on the public scene is allowed to stay there unless they fit a certain niche. The basic rule of thumb is: anything but traditional Catholicism. Debauched Catholics on all sides are welcome but if you're trying to go the trad route, you aren't going to get much attention unless you've got easily exploitable flaws. To be a superstar like Milo, you're going to need a lot of help and directed exposure.

When he first started making appearances on television he was always wearing well tailored suits and kept his ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ banter to a minimum.. Gradually, he let his flamboyant personal style out more and more and began getting disgustingly explicit about his sodomite proclivities. He is probably a gαy conservative shill in the mold of a secular Michael Voris without the burden of pretending to be reformed.

Interestingly, Milo's only kryptonite is uber Jєω Zionist Ben Shapiro. He absolutely won't debate him. Just like every other blogger or pundit out there, we can't give people a free pass just because they laid a smackdown on some other common enemy.

Interesting comment and I think you've hit a nerve with the Ben Shapiro "kryptonite" observation:

Milo won't engage his fellow yid, Ben Shapiro, because his zio-script writers won't let him.

Milo is the concocted "Alt-right" spokesperson, who's just another neo-con shill for zionist interests.

It took us a lengthy forum discussion to examine the patient, but it looks like we found the cancer.

Croixalist · « **Reply #33 on:** February 08, 2017, 04:39:53 PM »

Yeah, Jєωs and Zionist "Christians" are the only ones granted a place at the cultural conservative table. Anyone else is just a dog looking for scraps.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #34 on:** February 10, 2017, 09:34:06 AM »

I don't understand how the interests of the global elite (Jєωs, Masons) are served by the alt-right as such.

I can understand it in relation to Milo. I get "controlled opposition." But from my exposure, I don't see how the movement (or whatever you want to call it) is, at large, under that control.

I've mentioned Bishop Sheen before, and how people have alleged that he might have been controlled opposition. I don't know of any proof, but his perfect orthodoxy followed by zero resistance is certainly suspicious, and I'm sure many Catholics followed him to spiritual peril.

However, it makes sense to use religious (Catholic figures) this way, because Catholics are taught to follow shepherds. The alt-right doesn't (and hasn't) followed that mantra. So if you have a bunch of Richard Spencers, and whomever else, all railing against feminism, liberal propaganda, and just generally getting the social state of the world correct, the chances of the alt right population following them off a cliff (if they were to leap off one) seem slim. I don't think the average alt right "pew sitter" would follow the alt-right talking heads into a buzzsaw. Their allegiance is intellectual, whereas the allegiance of Catholics to their shepherds (or should I say hirelings?) was actually jurisdictional, i.e., it was morally obligatory for Catholics to obey their shepherds (and this was used to the advantage of the infiltrators). No such relationship exists between alt-right people and alt-right leaders.

Now granted, my exposure to the alt-right has been minimal. Maybe I just don't have all the facts. But from what I've seen I just don't understand how the alt-right fits into the plan.

mw2016 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 10, 2017, 09:52:12 AM »

Honestly, at this moment in time it doesn't matter if he's a Catholic or a homo. He's just been turned into a rock star by the protests and it helps the conservative cause.

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Mithrandylan · « **Reply #36 on:** February 10, 2017, 10:16:45 AM »

Not sure if you're being facetious or not.

I like Watson (that's his name, right?). He's sharp, and he understands things. But I wouldn't share his excitement about being counter-culture. It reminds me of how Bishop Williamson rightfully pointed out the inherent instability of a culture, civilization, country, etc. premised in revolution and rebellion. So conservatism is the new counter-culture... that's nice, for this generation. I believe it's true, too, but only because modern values are inherently anti-authority and individualistic. Now, I suppose that's "preferable" to being inherently insane (like the current liberal left who deny that being male or being female mean anything), but its certainly not sustainable, and it will inevitably (and in a relatively short period of time, as regimes go) be overthrown by a later generation.

One thing "we" (the Christian conservatives) have in our favor is that by the time we're the dominant culture, leftists will have bred themselves to insignificance. Maybe. So we might have "more time" to insert more decency, truth, and classical reason into the present conservative counter-culture, so that it can actually persist. But short of ever doing that, it's literally doomed to fail.

So I'm not as excited about it as Watson.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #37 on:** February 10, 2017, 10:27:50 AM »

At the same time, Watson might be a little to enamored by the notion of simply being popular (as a movement) to realize a more important, and bleaker truth:

I think that one of the reasons the alt right has "taken" off (inasmuch as it has) is more profound than just being sick of leftist tyrants. I think that the alt-right is emblemized by mid-twenty males. They woke up one day (or over a series of days), looked around, and despaired at everything they don't have. They have no family because their parents are divorced and it's not like they can get married because the women either have careers or children out of wedlock (with multiple guys, to boot). They have no children, or if they do, they're being raised by a woman with a number of guys (or no guys) who works in a call center. They're not GOING to have children because again, the available women either don't want them or already have as many as they want. Of course, they have no land, because it's not like they're going to inherit it from their parents who lost their homes 2006-2010, and they sure as hell can't afford it because they themselves are working for maybe $15/hr in a small apartment with a cat, struggling to pay off at minimum ten thousand dollars worth of debt for a degree that has proved to be worthless because everyone else has it and employers are back to caring about experience. In other words, they quite truly have no future. What would be completely ordinary and taken for granted sixty years ago: you go to primary school, meet a decent girl toward the end, marry her, work at a local manufacturer who pays you enough to buy a house, have kids, grandkids, rinse, repeat, die happy at least on a natural level-- is now extraordinary. The twenty-five year old today who can make this happen is not the norm at all, he's the lucky one!

The alt-right is composed of men whose legacies have been aborted by feminism, and they're pissed off about it. I've not heard many articulate it to that extent, so maybe my assessment is off, but I think more likely it's just such a bleak reality that they don't really want to talk about it. So while it may indeed be the new counter culture and it may indeed proceed from anti-authority and hyperindividualized sentiments, there's plenty of traditional sentiments at play here to, ones that are so essential and instrumental to mankind's basic functions-- indeed, sentiments that are virtually inextricable from mankind's basic functions-- that I don't think one can deny the role they play in the equation, even if it's not consistently articulated.

Incredulous · « **Reply #38 on:** February 10, 2017, 12:36:23 PM »

Yes, the poor dangerous fag is nuts.

Bottom-line: He advances the ʝʊdɛօ-masonic agenda of over-turning Christian society.

Cantarella · « **Reply #39 on:** February 10, 2017, 01:27:20 PM »

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Milo has placed that one tiny drop of poison (sodomy) into the conservative message, infecting it and pushing for tolerance.

And in doing this, he has became the perfect Jєωιѕн shill for these times.

mw2016 · « **Reply #40 on:** February 10, 2017, 01:37:36 PM »

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One thing "we" (the Christian conservatives) have in our favor is that by the time we're the dominant culture, leftists will have bred themselves to insignificance. Maybe. So we might have "more time" to insert more decency, truth, and classical reason into the present conservative counter-culture, so that it can actually persist. But short of ever doing that, it's literally doomed to fail.

Please do not mistake my pointing out that his appeal to the youngest generation is some sort of approval of his lifestyle - it is not.

Maybe it would be good to refer to him as a "useful idiot" in the sense of his role in the conservative cause.

He has somehow, in part because of the left's violent attacks on him, suddenly made it "cool" to be conservative. That will go a long way over time going forward in gaining the necessary numbers needed to defeat liberalism.

However, I disagree with your point about liberals "breeding themselves out of existence." Yes, it's true - they rarely marry and hardly reproduce. But, unfortunately, the only conservatives who reproduce are us Traditional Catholics, and we do not make a difference due to our low numbers. The rest of the conservatives in the world are practicing birth control and not reproducing, just like the liberals, while the Muslims breed like rabbits.

Until SOMEONE in the conservative movement makes divorce and birth control "uncool" again, their numbers won't increase much.

Cantarella · « **Reply #41 on:** February 10, 2017, 01:43:30 PM »

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One thing "we" (the Christian conservatives) have in our favor is that by the time we're the dominant culture, leftists will have bred themselves to insignificance.

This is very important. Probably the only good thing about the leftist derangement, is that they are not breeding; but contracepting and aborting themselves into extinction.

Cantarella · « **Reply #42 on:** February 10, 2017, 02:05:20 PM »

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One thing "we" (the Christian conservatives) have in our favor is that by the time we're the dominant culture, leftists will have bred themselves to insignificance.

This is very important. Probably the only good thing about the leftist derangement, is that they are not breeding; but contracepting and aborting themselves into extinction.

I wanted to add here I'm not saying of course, that contraception and abortion are good things for these liberals, but what is good is that, as they are not reproducing, there is hope that the next generation will hold to traditional, conservative values, instead of the deranged ideas of the lunatic Left.

However, mw2016 brings a good point also. These values are not necessarily Catholic. In the big scheme of things, only a small percentage of Christians are having large families whereas Moslems are (and have been for decades) breeding massively. This is because unfortunately, Christians contracept, divorce, and abort, just the same as Pagans and other worldly, as if we were not different.The comparison is astonishing. Most Moslem families have 8 or more children.

mw2016 · « **Reply #43 on:** February 10, 2017, 02:33:35 PM »

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However, mw2016 brings a good point also.

This is because unfortunately, Christians contracept, divorce, and abort, just the same as Pagans and other worldly, as if we were not different.The comparison is astonishing. Most Moslem families have 8 or more children.

Yes, it would be good if we could somehow convince the Protestants and Novus Ordinarians to stop contracepting and divorcing.

mw2016 · « **Reply #44 on:** February 10, 2017, 02:35:53 PM »

Milo says about abortion:

"...you'll be plunged headfirst into a lake of hellfire. It's wrong, it's murder, don't do it."

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