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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Is Ballet Immoral?
« Reply #30 on: Yesterday at 04:47:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on Yesterday at 10:31:52 AM


    This is a picture of Ballet around the 1600s, France. (Yes, the collar on the woman is a little low, but that can be fixed with extra fabric.) Is this immoral?

    No where did I say in my previous post that I accepted the ballet costumes of today.  I was arguing that the actual moves of ballet for the most part were not immoral (except some modern day spins, but everything today is focused on sensuality, it is hard to get away from it and I am not envious of the men who have to live in this age.)  Ballets like Cinderella and the Nutcracker are not meant to be sensual.  They are just fairy tails (yes some Catholics will object to them because of the magic that is portrayed in them, which I think is silly because they will not object to the magic in the Lord of the Rings, or The Chronicles of Narnia.)
    It's not appropriate for a man and women who aren't married to touch/hold each other.
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    Re: Is Ballet Immoral?
    « Reply #31 on: Yesterday at 05:20:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on Yesterday at 04:47:36 PM
    It's not appropriate for a man and women who aren't married to touch/hold each other.
    A high proportion of male ballet dancers are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. It would be more of a temptation for them to be dancing with another man 🤣 I wouldn’t be worried about my daughter dancing with majority of male ballet dancers 😆
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    Re: Is Ballet Immoral?
    « Reply #32 on: Yesterday at 05:58:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Justinian on Yesterday at 05:20:32 PM
    A high proportion of male ballet dancers are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. It would be more of a temptation for them to be dancing with another man 🤣 I wouldn’t be worried about my daughter dancing with majority of male ballet dancers 😆
    You'd be OK with your daughter associating with and dancing with....sodomites? 


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    Re: Is Ballet Immoral?
    « Reply #33 on: Yesterday at 07:01:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on February 01, 2026, 07:43:17 AM
    So the immodesty of ballet is clearly immoral, because it is totally unnecessary. For that reason, alone, and not as much the movements, it was right that the Church forbade Catholics from doing it.
    I agree. It seems some people on this thread have not read the first post with the traditional quotes. I am surprised there could be any discussion after these quotes.

    I will add another reason why we should not condone ballet: The training is clearly immoral.

    How can you be a Traditional Catholic and agree parents could in good conscience send their innocent daughters to Ballet training?

    There, these girls will be taught everything that is contrary to modesty: "Dress" in tights; do leg movements that uncover their private parts; etc. And doing it with other girls and even with "boys". And under the eyes of adult teachers. All the while, these girls are being told this immodest attire and these immodest movements are "ART".

    How could such parents ask their girls to be modest at home and in society, and yet send them to Ballet classes?

    The problem is: People forget Original Sin and its wounds. These are the real reasons Traditional Theologians and Saints have warned against Ballet and other immodest forms of activities. 

    Before Vatican II, the Popes ALSO condemned all sport activities that were conducted with immodest clothing for male and females.

    COMMON GUYS: GET A SPINE!

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    Re: Is Ballet Immoral?
    « Reply #34 on: Yesterday at 07:05:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on Yesterday at 05:58:48 PM
    You'd be OK with your daughter associating with and dancing with....sodomites?
    Many people we associate with will not be in a state of grace. 
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    Re: Is Ballet Immoral?
    « Reply #35 on: Yesterday at 07:09:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Justinian on Yesterday at 05:20:32 PM
    A high proportion of male ballet dancers are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. It would be more of a temptation for them to be dancing with another man 🤣 I wouldn’t be worried about my daughter dancing with majority of male ballet dancers 😆
    Firstly your statement is admitting that they are touching each other, secondly being ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ doesn't make it right. :fryingpan: You should be worried about your daughter's and your own soul.
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    Re: Is Ballet Immoral?
    « Reply #36 on: Yesterday at 07:25:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Justinian on Yesterday at 07:05:08 PM
    Many people we associate with will not be in a state of grace.
    Quite right. Of course, that has nothing to do with needlessly sending your daughter off to fraternize and dance with sodomites
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    Re: Is Ballet Immoral?
    « Reply #37 on: Yesterday at 09:48:55 PM »
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    • I did ballet as a child and felt weird (exposed) with the clothing that you had to wear. So, no, I wouldn't put my child in ballet since the leotards they make you wear is immodest. Many girls that I grew up with did competitive dancing, figure skating, gymnastics and they ended up being promiscuous. There's also a competition, also in gymnastics and figure skating, with who's the most flexible, can do the splits, do the craziest flips. 
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    Re: Is Ballet Immoral?
    « Reply #38 on: Yesterday at 09:52:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on Yesterday at 04:46:12 PM
    Mr G also saidWhich is part of the dancing....
    Not all dancing gestures are impure.

    Is it alright to dance when no one is watching?
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    Re: Is Ballet Immoral?
    « Reply #39 on: Today at 01:01:30 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on Yesterday at 09:52:21 PM
    Not all dancing gestures are impure.

    Is it alright to dance when no one is watching?
    God is always watching.
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    Re: Is Ballet Immoral?
    « Reply #40 on: Today at 01:21:40 AM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on Yesterday at 07:25:25 PM
    Quite right. Of course, that has nothing to do with needlessly sending your daughter off to fraternize and dance with sodomites
    There is a difference between a man having same sex attraction and a man actually committing this sin of sodomy. The former is not a sin. 

    We don’t know what sins the people we associate with are engaging in… including traditional Catholics 😱

    In order to avoid anyone who is committing any kind of mortal sin we’d need to live as a hermit. 

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    Re: Is Ballet Immoral?
    « Reply #41 on: Today at 03:16:41 AM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on Today at 01:01:30 AM
    God is always watching.
    So you would say any form of dancing is bad?  What kind of dancing was David doing?
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    Re: Is Ballet Immoral?
    « Reply #42 on: Today at 04:40:31 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on Today at 03:16:41 AM
    So you would say any form of dancing is bad?  What kind of dancing was David doing?
    Ballet is unquestionably immoral, Catholics ought to have nothing whatsoever to do with it.

    Regarding dancing in general, read St Francis de Sales' Introduction to the Devout Life.
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    Re: Is Ballet Immoral?
    « Reply #43 on: Today at 04:40:50 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on Today at 03:16:41 AM
    So you would say any form of dancing is bad?  What kind of dancing was David doing?
    There's usually nothing wrong with folk dancing. Breton dancing is very popular in France and many traditional marriages have a breton dancing animator to organise the event. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKwz74cLAxY

    I went a UK wedding where a barn dance was organised. The dancing is different but it's simply a village dance and there's nothing wrong with it. 

    I can't see anything positive in sending one's daughter to ballet lessons though. The whole thing seems so gαy, with women so thin they look like adolescent boys in miniskirts, dancing around the male lead who is always clearly un uphill gardener. 
     
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    Re: Is Ballet Immoral?
    « Reply #44 on: Today at 05:10:28 AM »
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    • Quote from: Godefroy on Today at 04:40:50 AM
    There's usually nothing wrong with folk dancing. Breton dancing is very popular in France and many traditional marriages have a breton dancing animator to organise the event. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKwz74cLAxY

    Your video of dancing is much more modest than something like the waltz, it's quite obvious. Just look at where they touch, simple hands vs arm around the waist

    I may be wrong but St Vinny seemed to be against all?/most? dances.
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