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If you had to pick only one to live which one would you pick?

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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Is an animal as important as a human being?
« on: October 08, 2022, 05:53:49 PM »
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  • With the huge amount of degradation of mankind and the constant promotion of legislation by the state protecting animals, I was interested if the Catholics on this forum believe that human life is infinitely more important than animal life.

    I don’t believe in harming animals without a just cause or reason, but it seems to me that people today care more about animal life than human life.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Is an animal as important as a human being?
    « Reply #1 on: October 08, 2022, 06:02:54 PM »
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  • Given some of what we've seen here on CI lately, with nearly half of respondents to a previous poll indicating that Indult/Motu are legitimately "Traditional" and now others promoting Modernism (vis-a-vis Sacred Scripture), after I initially thought ... how is this even a question? ... now I'm a bit curious about the results here.


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    Re: Is an animal as important as a human being?
    « Reply #2 on: October 08, 2022, 06:06:46 PM »
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  • Given some of what we've seen here on CI lately, with nearly half of respondents to a previous poll indicating that Indult/Motu are legitimately "Traditional" and now others promoting Modernism (vis-a-vis Sacred Scripture), after I initially thought ... how is this even a question? ... now I'm a bit curious about the results here.

    Yeah, I’m starting to wonder too…..
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

    Offline Seraphina

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    Re: Is an animal as important as a human being?
    « Reply #3 on: October 08, 2022, 06:11:36 PM »
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  • My first and selfish instinct is to choose myself.:facepalm:

    Offline Marius

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    Re: Is an animal as important as a human being?
    « Reply #4 on: October 08, 2022, 06:12:32 PM »
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  • An animal does not have a rational soul, so no.
    If the world is against the Truth, then I am against the World. - St. Athanasius
    In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus caritas - St. Augistine


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    Re: Is an animal as important as a human being?
    « Reply #5 on: October 08, 2022, 09:27:47 PM »
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  • Humans have eternal souls and of course should always take precedence.

    The question is:  WHY the big push for animal rights??

    The UN (Lucifer Trust) sees humans as cattle. 

    Most humans (Goyim)
    are also animals according to them and their тαℓмυdic, Noahidic religion.

    In 2012 they merged the World Veterinary Association and the World Medical Association into One Health under the WHO.
    https://www.wma.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/MoU_WVA.pdf


    "Well, what goes for the animals is applicable for the humans as well.That occurred in 2012 in Thailand the World Medical Association and the World Veterinary Association merged into One Discipline known as One Heath.  LINK

    Read their lips and understand.

    Any free-roaming human must be controlled by a leash. It might be electronic, medical surveillance implant, or legal instrument, but controlled people will be controlled by an evil tether.

    You will be considered a stray or "lone wolf" if you are roaming around without a control tether and consequently- you can be euthanized.

    Could the Jab qualify as an electronic tether? We shall find out in the days to come.  Think of this UN action as a a teaser or predictive programming for their intent to squash your freedom."


    https://shepherdsheart.life/blogs/news/un-watch-free-roaming-humans-and-dogs-to-become-extinct?_pos=3&_sid=279ee0146&_ss=r

    That's called GEOFENCING.  Cutting humans off from access to certain shops, parts of town, roads, leaving one's house, with technology.

    In the very near future, as the Web3 Metaverse "crypto" digital currency unfolds, all animals, plants, humans and machines will be "equal" in the new "democratic" decentralized economy.

    So yes, lettuce can be programmed to "send" emails:

    https://www.travelandleisure.com/food-drink/scientists-teach-spinach-email-climate-change-warnings

    So can forests, water, animals...
    2min17sec



    Thanks to graphene biofuel sensors which connect plants, animals, washing machines, and humans to the internet, all of these "things" can create DAO contracts autonomously to request repairs or water or food or whatever.

    1min 49sec


    In Web3, an HVac can hire a gig worker to repair it:


    "IFTF’s “Blockchain Futures Map 2017-2027” presents a mind-boggling array of concepts – from the prospect of trying to live as a gig worker hired by an HVAC system to bots having the same rights as people."

    https://wrenchinthegears.com/2021/12/31/on-cyberpunk-sumeria-ѕуηαgσgυєs-and-vending-machine-government/

    My friend just bought a new washer and had to get a "smart" model because they don't sell any other kind now.  When searching for a wifi connection near their home the washer now shows up.  When it needed a repair, the customer service "rebooted" it remotely.  Soon, no humans will be needed for these kinds of transactions as the machines will facilitate these transactions and the DAO contracts necessary autonomously.

    Graphene powered sensors are now going in our food, and chemtrails, and medications and clothes and everything manufactured.


    The IoT, IoB, and IoBnT  (Internet of Things, Internet of Bodies, and Internet of Bio Nano Things----phrases everyone should be familiar with by now!!!   See ) 

    is about creating an Interspecies Economy.



    "Money for the Digital Twins
    Digital twinning is required for these systems to to give a non humans digital identities, accurately address financial value, build verification systems trusted by markets and governments, and to model the gathered data with AI and other systems.

    Digitizing anything requires networks of unique addresses or identities, every sensor, every Internet-connected device. Giving a non-human digital ID really just means aggregating the various sensors, satellite-linked, embedded devices, into a consolidated digital twin. Each sensor, idenfentidable on its own, creates “verifiable” information about a target entity. 

    Ledgard and company frame the interspecies currency idea deceptively. They explain it as if the animal or forest is choosing to spend money on something. This is nonsense, of course, since it is humans, and the machines we design, who choose where the financial energy can be directed. The digital twin of the forest or giraffe does not choose, but rather our contrived representation of it does, with our rules programmed in."

    https://siliconicarus.org/2022/05/24/blockchain-digital-twins-and-global-brain-economics-part-iii/




    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: Is an animal as important as a human being?
    « Reply #6 on: October 08, 2022, 10:15:31 PM »
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  • Humans have eternal souls and of course should always take precedence.

    The question is:  WHY the big push for animal rights??

    The UN (Lucifer Trust) sees humans as cattle.

    Most humans (Goyim)
    are also animals according to them and their тαℓмυdic, Noahidic religion.

    In 2012 they merged the World Veterinary Association and the World Medical Association into One Health under the WHO.
    https://www.wma.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/MoU_WVA.pdf


    "Well, what goes for the animals is applicable for the humans as well.That occurred in 2012 in Thailand the World Medical Association and the World Veterinary Association merged into One Discipline known as One Heath.  LINK

    Read their lips and understand.

    Any free-roaming human must be controlled by a leash. It might be electronic, medical surveillance implant, or legal instrument, but controlled people will be controlled by an evil tether.

    You will be considered a stray or "lone wolf" if you are roaming around without a control tether and consequently- you can be euthanized.

    Could the Jab qualify as an electronic tether? We shall find out in the days to come.  Think of this UN action as a a teaser or predictive programming for their intent to squash your freedom."


    https://shepherdsheart.life/blogs/news/un-watch-free-roaming-humans-and-dogs-to-become-extinct?_pos=3&_sid=279ee0146&_ss=r

    That's called GEOFENCING.  Cutting humans off from access to certain shops, parts of town, roads, leaving one's house, with technology.

    In the very near future, as the Web3 Metaverse "crypto" digital currency unfolds, all animals, plants, humans and machines will be "equal" in the new "democratic" decentralized economy.

    So yes, lettuce can be programmed to "send" emails:

    https://www.travelandleisure.com/food-drink/scientists-teach-spinach-email-climate-change-warnings

    So can forests, water, animals...
    2min17sec



    Thanks to graphene biofuel sensors which connect plants, animals, washing machines, and humans to the internet, all of these "things" can create DAO contracts autonomously to request repairs or water or food or whatever.

    1min 49sec


    In Web3, an HVac can hire a gig worker to repair it:


    "IFTF’s “Blockchain Futures Map 2017-2027” presents a mind-boggling array of concepts – from the prospect of trying to live as a gig worker hired by an HVAC system to bots having the same rights as people."

    https://wrenchinthegears.com/2021/12/31/on-cyberpunk-sumeria-ѕуηαgσgυєs-and-vending-machine-government/

    My friend just bought a new washer and had to get a "smart" model because they don't sell any other kind now.  When searching for a wifi connection near their home the washer now shows up.  When it needed a repair, the customer service "rebooted" it remotely.  Soon, no humans will be needed for these kinds of transactions as the machines will facilitate these transactions and the DAO contracts necessary autonomously.

    Graphene powered sensors are now going in our food, and chemtrails, and medications and clothes and everything manufactured.


    The IoT, IoB, and IoBnT  (Internet of Things, Internet of Bodies, and Internet of Bio Nano Things----phrases everyone should be familiar with by now!!!  See )

    is about creating an Interspecies Economy.



    "Money for the Digital Twins
    Digital twinning is required for these systems to to give a non humans digital identities, accurately address financial value, build verification systems trusted by markets and governments, and to model the gathered data with AI and other systems.

    Digitizing anything requires networks of unique addresses or identities, every sensor, every Internet-connected device. Giving a non-human digital ID really just means aggregating the various sensors, satellite-linked, embedded devices, into a consolidated digital twin. Each sensor, idenfentidable on its own, creates “verifiable” information about a target entity. 

    Ledgard and company frame the interspecies currency idea deceptively. They explain it as if the animal or forest is choosing to spend money on something. This is nonsense, of course, since it is humans, and the machines we design, who choose where the financial energy can be directed. The digital twin of the forest or giraffe does not choose, but rather our contrived representation of it does, with our rules programmed in."

    https://siliconicarus.org/2022/05/24/blockchain-digital-twins-and-global-brain-economics-part-iii/


    See more on GEOFENCING and killswitch in this
     post:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/blockchain-slavery/msg825045/#msg825045
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Offline Quo vadis Domine

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    Re: Is an animal as important as a human being?
    « Reply #7 on: October 10, 2022, 06:53:07 PM »
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  • I’m pleasantly surprised with the results of this poll. 
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


    Online Ladislaus

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    Re: Is an animal as important as a human being?
    « Reply #8 on: October 10, 2022, 10:08:16 PM »
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  • We had 1 person vote for the pet.  Come on, now, who was it?  :laugh1:

    Offline Quo vadis Domine

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    Re: Is an animal as important as a human being?
    « Reply #9 on: October 11, 2022, 05:24:09 AM »
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  • We had 1 person vote for the pet.  Come on, now, who was it?  :laugh1:

    WOW! That was after my last comment. :facepalm:
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Is an animal as important as a human being?
    « Reply #10 on: October 11, 2022, 05:33:23 AM »
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  • We had 1 person vote for the pet.  Come on, now, who was it?  :laugh1:
    100% a troll.


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    Re: Is an animal as important as a human being?
    « Reply #11 on: October 11, 2022, 05:41:39 AM »
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  • What about "other"?

    Do they mean an alien??? :laugh1:
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: Is an animal as important as a human being?
    « Reply #12 on: October 11, 2022, 08:54:23 AM »
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  • We have 2 "pet" votes now.  And, yes, we certainly have some resident trolls on the forum.

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    Re: Is an animal as important as a human being?
    « Reply #13 on: October 11, 2022, 10:17:54 AM »
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    Re: Is an animal as important as a human being?
    « Reply #14 on: October 11, 2022, 10:23:25 AM »
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  • It's simple. When they're trying to confuse (or even flip) two things like ANIMAL and HUMAN, or MALE and FEMALE, it is best and most efficient to move BOTH towards the opposite position.

    For example, make men more feminine WHILE making women more masculine. Eventually you get some real confusion! And people believing that men and women aren't much different.

    Same for HUMANS and ANIMALS. Make humans more beastly (slaves to base passions, gluttonous, irrational) while spewing propaganda elevating animals. Try to blur the line, you know? Eventually people are more easily convinced that one and the other are interchangeable.

    The YOU-KNOW-WHOS do this all the time to stir up racial conflict. They put ONE RACE as the bad guys constantly, while the other race is portrayed as wise, intelligent, doctor, rocket scientist, nerd, wizard. Does it match reality? Not at all. The opposite of reality, actually. But such is propaganda. They want to bring one race down, and elevate others unnaturally, to cause chaos and confusion.

    (((They))) want to subvert and flip upside-down the NATURAL ORDER and everything in God's creation -- because they ultimately worship the devil and want the whole world for themselves. So they have to destroy this current civilization first. "Dissolve et coagula". Tear down and build back.
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