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What is the difference between the тαℓмυd and the Torah?

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Shulamit Widawsky, BA Psychology & Judaism, American Jєωιѕн University
Answered Dec 1, 2015 · Author has 6.9k answers and 11.9m answer views


Originally Answered: What is the difference between Torah and тαℓмυd?

The Torah is the Hebrew Bible, and while some people think of just the "Five Books of Moses" Torah refers to all of the Hebrew Bible, including such books as Joshua, Psalms, Book of Ruth, etc.  The first five books are written in the scroll that is read in the ѕуηαgσgυє every week.  Other books of the Torah may also be written in their own individual scrolls.  But all of them are available in book form as well.

The first five books of Torah were originally memorized orally, and took written form over time, http://www.britannica.com/topic/... in the period from 1200 to 100 BCE.  Well before the тαℓмυd took shape.




The тαℓмυd is the compilation of the historic rabbis "discussing" or "debating" what the Torah means.  Some of the tractates come to conclusions, but many leave the debate open ended.  This is part of why Jєωs can continue to study Torah and тαℓмυd, and continue to debate meanings, in all times and cultural changes.  The format of the тαℓмυd is always in book form, The entire тαℓмυd consists of 63 tractates, and in standard print is over 6,200 pages long.

The тαℓмυd has two components: the Mishnah (Hebrew: משנה, c. 200 CE), which is a written compendium of Rabbinic Judaism's Oral Torah (тαℓмυd translates literally as "instruction" in Hebrew); and the Gemara (c. 500 CE), an attempt at clarification of the Mishnah and related writings that often ventures onto other subjects and expounds broadly on the Hebrew Bible. In the middle of the page is the text that is being discussed, and the sections around the central text, as well as in the margins, are the commentaries that sometimes build upon each other, and were written at very different times in history, but took this form some time less than a thousand years ago.  The oldest full manuscript of the тαℓмυd, known as the Munich тαℓмυd dates from 1342 and is available online



The actual way various passages of each of these texts were created will probably be debated for all time.  But the major difference between them is that tradition tells us G-d gave us Torah, and rabbis gave us тαℓмυd.

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THE Jєωιѕн тαℓмυd is “Holy Writ” for the Jєωs.

The тαℓмυd supercedes the Old Testament in authority for the Jєωs. And the тαℓмυd is the most racist, hate-mongering , blasphemous book the world has ever known.
The тαℓмυd was written in Hebrewbetween the 3rd & 6th Centuries as a codification of the so-called Oral Law that the Jєωιѕн rabbis claim was handed down from Moses.
But the Messiah Jesus censored the “Oral Law” when He said, “By the traditions of your elders you make void the Word of God.” (St Matthew 15).
The English translation of the тαℓмυd has been watered down so as to conceal from the Gentiles the “satanic verses” contained in the original Hebrew.
The “Satanic Verses” of the тαℓмυd can be classified into 3 categories:
1) Jєωιѕн Supremacy.
2) Hatred Towards The “Goys” (Gentiles).
3) Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ, The Virgin Mary, & All Christians.

SATANIC VERSES OF THE тαℓмυd’S
“Jєωιѕн SUPREMACY”

* “If a ‘goy’ (Gentile) hits a Jєω he must be killed.” (Sanhedrin 58b)
* “If a Jєω finds an object lost by a ‘goy’ it does not have to be returned.” (Baba Mezia 24a)
* “If a Jєω murders a ‘goy’ there will be no death penalty.” (Sanhedrin 57a)
* What a Jєω steals from a ‘goy’ he may keep.” (Sanhedrin 57a)
* “Jєωs may use subterfuges to circuмvent a ‘goy.’” (Baba Kamma 113a)
* “All children of the ‘goyim’ (Gentiles) are animals.” (Yebamoth 98a)
* “Girls born of the ‘goyim’ are in a state of ‘niddah’ (menstrual uncleanness!) from birth.” (Abodah Zarah 36b)

SATANIC VERSES OF THE тαℓмυd’S
HATRED TOWARDS THE GENTILES

* “The ‘goyim’ are not humans. They are beasts.” (Baba Mezia 114b)
* “If you eat with a ‘goy’ it is the same as eating with a dog.” (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)
* “Even the best of the ‘goyim’ should all be killed.” (Soferim 15)
* “sɛҳuąƖ intercourse between the ‘goyim’ is like intercourse between animals.” (Sanhedrin 74b)
* “When it comes to a Gentile in peace times, one may harm him indirectly, for instance, by removing a ladder after he had fallen into a crevice.” (Shulkan Arukh, Yoreh De ‘ah, 158, Hebrew Edition only)

SATANIC VERSES OF THE тαℓмυd’S
BLASPHEMIES AGAINST JESUS CHRIST, THE VIRGIN MARY,
& ALL CHRISTIANS

* “‘Yashu’ (derogatory for ‘Jesus’) is in Hell being boiled in hot excrement.” (Gittin 57a)
[’Yashu’ is an acronym for the Jєωιѕн curse, ‘May his (Jesus) name be wiped out forevermore.’]
* Yashu (Jesus) was sɛҳuąƖly immoral and worshipped a brick.” (Sanhedrin 107b)
* “Yashu (Jesus) was cut off from the Jєωιѕн people for his wickedness and refused to repent.” (Sotah 47a)
* “Miriam the hairdresser had sex with many men.” (Shabbath 104b, Hebrew Edition only)
* “She who was the descendant of princes and governors (the virgin Mary) played the harlot with carpenters.” (Sanhedrin 106a)
* “Christians who reject the тαℓмυd will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.” (Rosh Hashanah 17a)

JUDAISM’S REIGN OF GLAMOUR IS COMING TO AN END!

I WAS RAISED AS A Jєω.Christendom has fawned all over the Jєωs for the last 60 years. But all of this is now coming to an end.
Christians are waking up to the fact that Judaism and the Jєωs are haters of Jesus Christ, Christianity, and fervent Christians who preach the Gospel.

Do you wish to get a тαℓмυdic Jєω raving mad?

Simply Tell That Jєω That If He Does Not Accept Jesus Christ As His Lord & Saviour
He Is Going To Suffer In Hell!

If the Torah is the Word of God and the тαℓмυd is the opinions of various rabbis then it appears to me that the Torah would be more the authority than the тαℓмυd.

that's just one ignoramus speaking
Not all Jєωs believe the same thing anymore than all Catholics or any other group

I think I would rather focus on the Gospels.

Yes, you are right. That is correct. But the Jєωs do not give more authority to the Torah. They give more authority to the тαℓмυd.
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The тαℓмυd is Judaism's holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the тαℓмυd itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament)."  http://www.revisionisthistory.org/тαℓмυdtruth.html
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You should read “The тαℓмυd Unmasked, The Secret Rabbinical Teaching Concerning Christians,” by Rev. I. B. Pranaitis, Roman Catholic Priest; Master of Theology and Professor of the Hebrew Language at the Imperial Ecclesiastical Academy of the Roman Catholic Church in Old St. Petersburg.
[Imprimatur: 1892] http://www.тαℓмυdunmasked.com/
 
Also you should take seriously what Jesus has to say about the Pharisees and their traditions, which in His time was the oral тαℓмυd. (There was no hard copy till around the time the Holy Bible was canonised.) Yes, tSt Paul was one of them, until he converted and repented. The тαℓмυd is the book of the Pharisees, called in scripture the traditions of men.
 
If you read the 23^rd Chapter of St Matthew’s Gospel you will hear what Jesus Himself says about the traditions of the Pharisees, as illustrated in the тαℓмυd.
 
“Christ admonishes the people to follow the good doctrine, not the bad example of the scribes and Pharisees. He warns his disciples not to imitate their ambition and denounces divers woes against them for their hypocrisy and blindness.
 
[1] Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to his disciples, [2] Saying: The scribes and the Pharisees have sitten on the chair of Moses. [3] All things therefore whatsoever they shall say to you, observe and do: but according to their works do ye not; for they say, and do not. [4] For they bind heavy and insupportable burdens, and lay them on men's shoulders; but with a finger of their own they will not move them. [5] And all their works they do for to be seen of men. For they make their phylacteries broad, and enlarge their fringes.
 
[6] And they love the first places at feasts, and the first chairs in the ѕуηαgσgυєs, [7] And salutations in the market place, and to be called by men, Rabbi. [8] But be not you called Rabbi. For one is your master; and all you are brethren. [9] And call none your father upon earth; for one is your father, who is in heaven. [10] Neither be ye called masters; for one is your master, Christ. [11] He that is the greatest among you shall be your servant. [12] And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be humbled: and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
 
[13] But woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you shut the kingdom of heaven against men, for you yourselves do not enter in; and those that are going in, you suffer not to enter. [14] Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites: because you devour the houses of widows, praying long prayers. For this you shall receive the greater judgment. [15] Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you go round about the sea and the land to make one proselyte; and when he is made, you make him the child of hell twofold more than yourselves.
 
[16] Woe to you blind guides, that say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but he that shall swear by the gold of the temple, is a debtor. [17] Ye foolish and blind; for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold? [18] And whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gift that is upon it, is a debtor. [19] Ye blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift? [20] He therefore that sweareth by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things that are upon it:
 
[21] And whosoever shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth in it: [22] And he that sweareth by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon. [23] Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you tithe mint, and anise, and cuмmin, and have left the weightier things of the law; judgment, and mercy, and faith. These things you ought to have done, and not to leave those undone. [24] Blind guides, who strain out a gnat, and swallow a camel. [25] Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you make clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but within you are full of rapine and uncleanness.
 
[26] Thou blind Pharisee, first make clean the inside of the cup and of the dish, that the outside may become clean. [27] Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you are like to whited sepulchres, which outwardly appear to men beautiful, but within are full of dead men's bones, and of all filthiness. [28] So you also outwardly indeed appear to men just; but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. [29] Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; that build the sepulchres of the prophets, and adorn the monuments of the just, [30] And say: If we had been in the days of our Fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
 
[31] Wherefore you are witnesses against yourselves, that you are the sons of them that killed the prophets. [32] Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. [33] You serpents, generation of vipers, how will you flee from the judgment of hell? [34] Therefore behold I send to you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them you will put to death and crucify, and some you will scourge in your ѕуηαgσgυєs, and persecute from city to city: [35] That upon you may come all the just blood that hath been shed upon the earth, from the blood of Abel the just, even unto the blood of Zacharias the son of Barachias, whom you killed between the temple and the altar.
 
[36] Amen I say to you, all these things shall come upon this generation. [37] Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered together thy children, as the hen doth gather her chickens under her wings, and thou wouldest not? [38] Behold, your house shall be left to you, desolate. [39] For I say to you, you shall not see me henceforth till you say: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
 
 

That doesn't make sense. 

If the Torah is teh word of God?

the rabbinical opinions (aka тαℓмυd) would have to be subservient to that word.