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Illegals flooding the border are NOT kids!
« on: July 16, 2014, 01:55:30 PM »
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    Illegals flooding the border are NOT kids!
    « Reply #1 on: July 16, 2014, 07:01:25 PM »
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  • I have just an opinion.  After reading "Black Awakening" it speaks of programing  and making super soldiers. This idea of super soldiers is a universal desire.  IF we are getting flooded by the thousands, and they are not kids, well, I couldn't think of what else would be planned for them.  I wonder if they are going to be chipped, all it takes is an innoculation.  Getting supplies reminded me of what I did before boot camp.


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    Illegals flooding the border are NOT kids!
    « Reply #2 on: July 17, 2014, 12:11:45 AM »
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  • Sheriff Joe Arpaio may have at least temporarily been dethroned as Arizona’s most controversial law enforcer.

    Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu made national headlines on Tuesday after a group of about 80 people gathered in Oracle, Ariz., to protest the arrival of a bus carrying immigrant children from Central America. Another group of about 50 people showed up to support the children.

    Protesters were tipped off by a post to the Pinal County Sheriff Department’s Facebook page which said about 40 to 50 children were being transported to the "Sycamore Canyon Boys Ranch" in Oracle, Ariz.

    "We already have our hands full fighting the Drug Cartels and Human Smugglers,” Babeu wrote in the Facebook post. “We don't need unaccompanied juveniles from Central America being flown into Arizona — compliments of President Obama. Local residents have every right to be upset and to protest. Our federal government has failed to enforce any immigration laws.”

    In an interview with CNN on Wednesday morning, Babeu defended his actions, saying any blame should be placed squarely on the federal government, whom he accused of “not answering questions” about the crisis that has seen an estimated 50,000 undocuмented immigrants illegally cross into the U.S. from Latin America so far this year, according to the U.S. Border Patrol.

    "My job is to protect the families of my county and not to protect the families of Central Americans," Babeu said during an appearance on CNN's “New Day.”

    “I’m not the villain here,” he added.

    Regardless of what one thinks about Babeu's position, it turns out his alleged informant at Homeland Security may have been informed. The Arizona Republic writes that not only did the bus of immigrant children never show up but a bus stopped by the protesters turned out to be carrying U.S. children headed to a YMCA summer camp.

    In an editorial Wednesday, the paper accused Babeu of "manipulative grandstanding."

    After repeatedly being challenged on his position during the CNN interview, Babeu insisted that if the federal government would meet with local residents and law enforcement officials, the anti-immigration protestors would go home.

    “The federal government should be answering these questions,” Babeu said. “It would disarm everybody. Not just me, everybody.”

    Babeu received national attention back in 2012 when he was outed by his former lover during Babeu's unsuccessful congressional campaign. Jose Orozco, an undocuмented worker at the time of their relationship, said that Babeu threatened to have him deported if he reported the relationship to the public. The Arizona Solicitor General later exonorated Babeu of any wrongdoing.

    http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-sheriff-defends-rallying-anti-immigration-protests---i-m-not-the-villain-192634199.html

    This is really evil. It looks like the protesters are out for blood. If they had gotten hold of the US children out to the summer camp what were they intending to do with them?

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    Illegals flooding the border are NOT kids!
    « Reply #3 on: July 18, 2014, 12:37:16 AM »
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  • Regardless of what one thinks about Babeu's position, it turns out his alleged informant at Homeland Security may have been informed. The Arizona Republic writes that not only did the bus of immigrant children never show up but a bus stopped by the protesters turned out to be carrying U.S. children headed to a YMCA summer camp.

    I wonder what the mob would do to the children if they ever caught upwith them? This reminds me of an earlier time;

    The Birmingham, Alabama, Police Commissioner, Bull Connor, together with Police Sergeant Tom Cook (an avid Ku Klux Klan supporter), organized violence against the Freedom Riders with local Ku Klux Klan chapters. The pair made plans to bring the Ride to an end in Alabama. They assured Gary Thomas Rowe, an FBI informer[7] and member of Eastview Klavern #13 (the most violent Klan group in Alabama), that the mob would have fifteen minutes to attack the Freedom Riders without any arrests being made. The plan was to allow an initial assault in Anniston with a final assault taking place in Birmingham.

    On May 14, Mother's Day, in Anniston, a mob of Ku Klux Klansmen, some still in church attire, attacked the first of the two buses (the Greyhound). The driver tried to leave the station, but was blocked until KKK members slashed its tires.[8] The mob forced the crippled bus to stop several miles outside of town and then firebombed it.[9][10] As the bus burned, the mob held the doors shut, intending to burn the riders to death. Sources disagree, but either an exploding fuel tank[9] or an undercover state investigator brandishing a revolver[11] caused the mob to retreat, and the riders escaped the bus. The mob beat the riders after they escaped the bus. Only warning shots fired into the air by highway patrolmen prevented the riders from being lynched.[9]

    That night, the hospitalized Freedom Riders, most of whom had been refused care, were removed from the hospital at 2 AM, because the staff feared the mob outside the hospital. The local civil rights leader Rev. Fred Shuttlesworth organized several cars of blacks to rescue the injured Freedom Riders in defiance of the mob.

    When the Trailways bus reached Anniston and pulled in at the terminal an hour after the Greyhound bus was burned, it was boarded by eight Klansmen. They beat the Freedom Riders and left them semi-conscious in the back of the bus.[9]

    When the bus arrived in Birmingham, it was attacked by a mob of KKK members[8] aided and abetted by police under the orders of Commissioner Bull Connor.[12] As the riders exited the bus, they were beaten by the mob with baseball bats, iron pipes and bicycle chains. Among the attacking Klansmen was Gary Thomas Rowe, an FBI informant. White Freedom Riders were singled out for especially frenzied beatings; James Peck required more than 50 stitches to the wounds in his head.[13] Peck was taken to Carraway Methodist Medical Center, which refused to treat him; he was later treated at Jefferson Hillman Hospital.[14][15]

    When reports of the bus burning and beatings reached US Attorney General Robert Kennedy, he urged restraint on the part of Freedom Riders. He sent an assistant, John Seigenthaler, to Alabama to try to calm the situation.

    Despite the violence suffered and the threat of more to come, the Freedom Riders wanted to continue their journey. Kennedy had arranged an escort for the Riders in order to get them to Montgomery, Alabama safely. However, radio reports told of the mob awaiting the riders at the bus terminal, as well as on the route to Montgomery. The Greyhound clerks told the Riders that their drivers were refusing to drive any Freedom Riders anywhere.[8] Recognizing that their efforts had already called national attention to the civil rights cause and wanting to make the rally in New Orleans, the Riders decided to abandon the rest of the bus ride and fly directly to New Orleans from Birmingham. When they first boarded the plane, all passengers had to exit because of a bomb threat.[8]

    Diane Nash, a Nashville college student and SNCC leader, believed that if Southern violence were allowed to halt the Freedom Rides, the movement would be set back years. She pushed to find replacements to resume the rides. On May 17, a new set of riders, 10 students from Nashville, took a bus to Birmingham, where they were arrested by Bull Connor and jailed.[12] These students kept their spirits up in jail by singing freedom songs. Out of frustration, Connor drove them back up to the Tennessee line and dropped them off, saying, "I just couldn't stand their singing."[16] They immediately returned to Birmingham.

    In answer to SNCC's call, Freedom Riders from across the Eastern US joined John Lewis and Hank Thomas, the two young SNCC members of the original Ride, who had remained in Birmingham. On May 19, they attempted to resume the ride, but, terrified by the howling mob surrounding the bus depot, the drivers refused. Harassed and besieged by the mob, the riders waited all night for a bus.[12]

    Under intense public pressure from the Kennedy administration, Greyhound was forced to provide a driver. After direct intervention by Byron White of the Attorney General's office, Alabama Governor John Patterson reluctantly promised to protect the bus from KKK mobs and snipers on the road between Birmingham and Montgomery.[17] On the morning of May 20, the Freedom Ride resumed, with the bus carrying the riders traveling toward Montgomery at 90 miles an hour, protected by a contingent of the Alabama State Highway Patrol.

    The Highway Patrol abandoned the bus and riders at the Montgomery city limits. At the bus station on South Court Street, a white mob awaited. They beat the Freedom Riders with baseball bats and iron pipes. The local police allowed the beatings to go on uninterrupted.[12] Again, white Freedom Riders were singled out for particularly brutal beatings. Reporters and news photographers were attacked first and their cameras destroyed, but one reporter took a photo later of Jim Zwerg in the hospital, showing how he was beaten and bruised.[18] Seigenthaler, a Justice Department official, was beaten and left unconscious lying in the street. Ambulances refused to take the wounded to the hospital. Local blacks rescued them, and a number of the Freedom Riders were hospitalized.

    On the following night, Sunday, May 21, more than 1500 people packed Reverend Ralph Abernathy's First Baptist Church to honor the Freedom Riders. Among the speakers were Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., who was newly based in Montgomery, Rev. Fred Shuttlesworth, and James Farmer. Outside, a mob of more than 3,000 whites attacked blacks, with a handful of the United States Marshals Service protecting the church from assault and fire bombs. With city and state police making no effort to restore order, the civil rights leaders appealed to the President for protection. President Kennedy threatened the governor to intervene with federal troops if he would not protect the people. Governor Patterson forestalled that by finally ordering the Alabama National Guard to disperse the mob, and the Guard reached the church in the early morning.[12]

    In a commemorative Op-Ed piece in 2011, Bernard Lafayette remembered the mob breaking windows of the church with rocks and setting off tear gas canisters. He recounted heroic action by King. After learning that black taxi drivers were arming and forming a group to rescue the people inside, he worried that more violence would result. He selected ten volunteers, who promised non-violence, to escort him through the white mob, which parted to let King and his escorts pass as they marched two by two. King went out to the black drivers and asked them to disperse, to prevent more violence. King and his escorts formally made their way back inside the church, unmolested.[19] Lafayette also was interviewed by BBC in 2011 and told about these events in an episode broadcast on radio 31 August 2011 in commemoration of the Freedom Rides. The Alabama National Guard finally arrived in the early morning to disperse the mob and safely escorted all the people from the church.[20] [21

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Riders

    The difference between the freedom riders and the children on the bus is that the freedom riders bought their own tickets and knew the risks they were undertaking. Todays children on the bus aare much younger and they are internees of the government. They have no choice. This mob violence is evil.

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    Illegals flooding the border are NOT kids!
    « Reply #4 on: July 18, 2014, 05:03:07 PM »
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  • I know Paul Babeu very well. He is from the city I grew up in and ran for mayor there. Unfortunately he didn't win the election. But a year or so ago he came out of the closet and admitted he's a sodomite. Regardless, he still seems to do a good job as Sheriff. One of the first things he did was remove the cameras on red lights stating that these cameras were unconstitutional.



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    Illegals flooding the border are NOT kids!
    « Reply #5 on: July 20, 2014, 10:11:14 PM »
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  • Quote from: poche (Jul 18, 2014, 1:37 am)
    This reminds me of an earlier time; [....] Birmingham, Alabama

    Uh, huh.  I see that you are so familiar with the "earlier time", that not a single word describing its events is your own 
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    The difference between the freedom riders and the children on the bus is that the freedom riders bought their own tickets and knew the risks they were undertaking.

    Whether black or white, the Freedom Riders were almost certainly all U.S. citizens.

    Quote from: poche (continued, 1:37 am)
    Todays children on the bus aare much younger and they are internees of the government.  

    Some Freedom Riders, being college students
    • , might've been only in their late teens.  The alleged "children" now at issue are citizens of foreign countries who entered the U.S. illegally.  Internment by the U.S. federal government is simply a consequence of their illegal choices, plus a neglected federal mandate in the U.S. Constitution (Art. IV, Sec. 4).

      Quote from: poche (concluded, 1:37 am)
      They have no choice.

      Horsefeathers!  The choices to illegally enter a country that was not theirs, in violation of U.S. laws, were indeed made, whether by alleged "children" who had reached the age of reason, or by the adults who were legally responsible for them.  Each person who is responsible for making such a choice, yet does not understand the risks of doing so, is a combination of ignorant and irresponsible: Not a valid excuse nor defense.

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      Note *: Despite the excessive amount of text in your follow-up, not only did you fail to explain what the Freedom Rides were, but you also seem to have missed the highly relevant fact that SNCC stands for Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee.

      Note #: The Wikipedia excerpt that you shovelled in was too long for a sensible person to expect CathInfo readers to make the effort to finish the whole [expletives deleted] thing.  Especially considering that you have made a habit of doing it so often.

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    Illegals flooding the border are NOT kids!
    « Reply #6 on: July 20, 2014, 10:39:27 PM »
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  • Quote from: AlligatorDicax
    Quote from: poche (Jul 18, 2014, 1:37 am)
    This reminds me of an earlier time; [....] Birmingham, Alabama

    Uh, huh.  I see that you are so familiar with the "earlier time", that not a single word describing its events is your own 
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    Quote from: poche (continued, 1:37 am)
    The difference between the freedom riders and the children on the bus is that the freedom riders bought their own tickets and knew the risks they were undertaking.

    Whether black or white, the Freedom Riders were almost certainly all U.S. citizens.

    Quote from: poche (continued, 1:37 am)
    Todays children on the bus aare much younger and they are internees of the government.  

    Some Freedom Riders, being college students
    • , might've been only in their late teens.  The alleged "children" now at issue are citizens of foreign countries who entered the U.S. illegally.  Internment by the U.S. federal government is simply a consequence of their illegal choices, plus a neglected federal mandate in the U.S. Constitution (Art. IV, Sec. 4).

      Quote from: poche (concluded, 1:37 am)
      They have no choice.

      Horsefeathers!  The choices to illegally enter a country that was not theirs, in violation of U.S. laws, were indeed made, whether by alleged "children" who had reached the age of reason, or by the adults who were legally responsible for them.  Each person who is responsible for making such a choice, yet does not understand the risks of doing so, is a combination of ignorant and irresponsible: Not a valid excuse nor defense.

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      Note *: Despite the excessive amount of text in your follow-up, not only did you fail to explain what the Freedom Rides were, but you also seem to have missed the highly relevant fact that SNCC stands for Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee.

      Note #: The Wikipedia excerpt that you shovelled in was too long for a sensible person to expect CathInfo readers to make the effort to finish the whole [expletives deleted] thing.  Especially considering that you have made a habit of doing it so often.
    Participating in a hostile mob and threatening violence against women and children is mortaly sinful. I don't know where the women and children who would die under these circuмstances would go but the participants of the mob violence place themselves in danger of going to Hell.