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Title: If you're a trad, you're pagan?
Post by: LeDeg on August 06, 2022, 08:22:09 AM
So says Francis.


Pope: Traditionalism is ‘dead memory’ and ‘paganism of thought’ | Crux

https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2022/08/pope-traditionalism-is-dead-memory-and-paganism-of-thought
Title: Re: If you're a trad, you're pagan?
Post by: DigitalLogos on August 06, 2022, 08:42:42 AM
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Title: Re: If you're a trad, you're pagan?
Post by: Ladislaus on August 06, 2022, 09:43:07 AM
And the hyper-Pelagian (has taken it 10x farther than Pelagius himself would ever have dared) had the temerity to call Traditional Catholics "Pelagians" (of course, that from ignorance, and he obviously mean Jansenists ... but still).
Title: Re: If you're a trad, you're pagan?
Post by: SimpleMan on August 06, 2022, 12:59:48 PM
And the hyper-Pelagian (has taken it 10x farther than Pelagius himself would ever have dared) had the temerity to call Traditional Catholics "Pelagians" (of course, that from ignorance, and he obviously mean Jansenists ... but still).

It's the Novus Ordo people who are the (neo-)Jansenists. 

Yes, that's what I said.  They come up with all kinds of fanatical nonsense.  There's an idea floating around out there that any deliberate, fully willed sin against one of the Ten Commandments is "grave" matter, as well as the idea that your salvation is in jeopardy if you don't do a blind "trust fall" into the arms of Francis and swallow every word he says, hook, line, and sinker.  (Jim Jones would have been proud.)  These are just two examples. They're the ones who are the religious fanatics, not us.

But oddly enough, they're also the ones who are okay with unrepentant contraceptors receiving communion ("not to judge"... "it is of the conscience"...), and who view it as "pastoral" for pro-abortion politicians to be given communion.  Enabling abortion isn't "grave", but lying to Aunt Maude about how pretty her ugly hat is, is "grave". 

They're kooks!
Title: Re: If you're a trad, you're pagan?
Post by: DigitalLogos on August 06, 2022, 01:15:03 PM
https://youtu.be/QAeZESRaczg
Title: Re: If you're a trad, you're pagan?
Post by: Todd The Trad on August 06, 2022, 05:36:04 PM
What a liberal jackass. His responces are the perfect example of modernism. Everything can change with time. What kind of pope, If he is pope, is asked if the church will ever allow contraception and can't give the clear answer of no? Nothing is untouchable to this man. He respects every cultures traditions but the catholic traditions. What a hypocrit. I cannot stand him. He acts as if he's so smart....as if he's got it all figured out...as if what he says is obvious and us trads are just too damn dumb to know any better. 
Title: Re: If you're a trad, you're pagan?
Post by: Donachie on August 06, 2022, 05:57:04 PM
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"Pope" Francis is a Freemason! The... - San Antonio De Padua | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/888396911221449/posts/pope-francis-is-a-freemasonthe-head-vatican-intelligence-officer-in-argentina-af/2848198045241316/)

Besides being a Freemason communist mixer, he's stuck in the wrong end of Ouroboros. Bergoglio's a materialist leviathan idiot. 

It's not any easier to kill tradition that much more than the form of it, and they can't kill the forms. Plato and Cratylus! and the faith! Semper fi, credamus omni tempore, etc.
Title: Re: If you're a trad, you're pagan?
Post by: Donachie on August 06, 2022, 06:13:29 PM
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Title: Re: If you're a trad, you're pagan?
Post by: SimpleMan on August 06, 2022, 06:51:15 PM
What a liberal jackass. His responces are the perfect example of modernism. Everything can change with time. What kind of pope, If he is pope, is asked if the church will ever allow contraception and can't give the clear answer of no? Nothing is untouchable to this man. He respects every cultures traditions but the catholic traditions. What a hypocrit. I cannot stand him. He acts as if he's so smart....as if he's got it all figured out...as if what he says is obvious and us trads are just too damn dumb to know any better.

I've had to wonder how much of his attitude and approach are due to his Argentinian upbringing.  It's an Argentine stereotype that they can be, ahem, a little bit too self-assured and "know-it-alls".  I worked with an Argentinian woman one time, and oh, dear goodness, you have no idea.  Pushy, overbearing, and unlikeable in the extreme, couldn't open her mouth without saying "you should...".  I barely have words to describe it.

Let me be clear that I am not saying all Argentinians are like this, just that it's a well-known cultural trait.