Dogmatic home aloners* are the WORST and MOST DANGEROUS group of individuals on the planet -- at least to Traditional Catholics (of which I consider myself, hence my perspective and opinion on the matter)

NO EXCEPTIONS.

They are the absolute worst. Worse than Novus Ordo, Charismatics, Protestants, liberals, Jєωs, pagans, satanists, communists, and globalists.

The evils of the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, Globalism, satanism, Communism -- individuals like Klaus Schwab or Hillary Clinton aren't as much danger to a Traditional Catholic like myself. How could that be, you ask? Well, they can only take away my kids, my property, and lock me up in a cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρ. They can martyr me, but they can't damage my soul or my salvation.

God allows these enemies to exist, and even I (with my limited human intellect) can see that such opposition is necessary, to allow good men to fight, struggle, remain strong in their Faith, and prove their loyalty to God. If even I can see that, it doesn't take a big leap to trust that God knows what He's doing in this matter.

The foolishness of pagans, liberals, etc. doesn't touch me in the least. If anything, it makes me stronger in my Catholic beliefs.

But Dogmatic home-aloners, with their lies, distortions, opinions, and general rhetoric convince good Traditional Catholics to reject the ministrations of all good Traditional priests and bishops worldwide, as well as take away perfectly good sermons, Masses, and sacraments from Catholics who currently enjoy these things. And according to Catholic dogma, those things are NECESSARY FOR SALVATION. They are not just "nice" or "extras".

Furthermore, dogmatic home-aloners also isolate said Catholics, making them vulnerable and weak. They take away good Catholic friendships from father, mother, and children. They take away potential good Catholic spouses from said children. And, in short, they probably cause the damnation of most of their children.

When confronted with the dogma that the Catholic Church is a visible organization, which will exist until the end of time, they make excuses. They basically fall for the protestant/heretical notion about an "invisible church".

If God allows an extraordinary evil like no (real/traditional) Mass in a given state or country, and no chance for families to even travel 6 hours to get the Sacraments on occasion, we can be sure that He will provide extraordinary graces to sustain such individuals, and allow for the possibility of their salvation. But when you take it upon yourself -- that's a whole different animal. It would be like moving to a desert island where there's no priest or sacraments, and then trying to blame God if you don't save your soul.


*Dogmatic home-aloner is defined as: a Catholic who says there are dogmatic reasons why one must stay at home on Sunday, avoiding *all* priests, bishops, and groups -- even Tridentine Masses. A Traditional Catholic who has no good option for Mass on all/most Sundays is an accidental home-aloner. It's the difference between an abortion and a miscarriage!

Another definition: "There are 10 Catholics left in the world, including me."

I'm gonna have to go with Jєωs.

This is an idiotic thread.

The home aloners are just Catholics, and if they choose to do what they do during these confusing times, I can understand why they do it. I judge Catholics by how they live the faith. If I see a home aloner that has 12 children and they are all dressed modestly, polite, personable, NORMAL Catholics living the faith, and I see an SSPXer family with two children that dress immodestly and are worldly, but "they go to an SSPX chapel", I judge by their fruits, their deeds. The home a loner is living the Catholic faith and the SSPXer is a fake.  

Very few Jєωs give a hoot about the Catholic Church one way or the other. The ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan Jєωs are a small group, and the average Jєω knows nothing about them. Numerically speaking there are FAR more Protestants that despise the Catholic Church than Jєωs. I know my enemy very well, and it isn't the average Jєω we all run into every day, they are no different than the average Protestants, Muslim, North Korean, Chinese, Russian, North Vietnamese...... Just victims and go alongs

I don't think so LT, I am pretty sure Matthew has dealt personally with home aloners, I know I have and can say that he is absolutely spot on. A home aloner is his own infallible authority - which in my experience, is *sadly* always to their own demise.

I say sadly because there is nothing you can say to them to snap them out of it. One HA family, the dad is the one who performed the marriage ceremony for his children because there are no priests. In their minds, this is not only right and logical, it is to be expected from home aloners, this is what HAism leads to - and more.

Don't say they are just Catholic - they're not.

Like I said, "I judge by their fruits, their deeds", not whether they are home aloners, SSPX, BODers, Sedes, Novus Ordos.  In the case you bring up, I would judge him to be insane for "dad is the one who performed the marriage ceremony for his children", and not for just being a home aloner. Just the same as I judge the SSPXer a fake in my example.

Like I said, "I judge by their fruits, their deeds", not whether they are home aloners, SSPX, BODers, Sedes, Novus Ordos.  In the case you bring up, I would judge him to be insane for "dad is the one who performed the marriage ceremony for his children", and not for just being a home aloner. Just the same as I judge the SSPXer a fake in my example.

No sir, he was not insane, not by any measure. He was in fact very well educated and held the highest position of authority at one of this state's teaching institutions.

What happened is he lost the faith, not his mind. That's the result of HAism. I remember him as one who was very, very strong in the faith before they went the HA route. I think that family of 13 were HAers for some 20 years or so by the time he married off his first daughter, not sure but I think he did the same for some of his other children. Obviously that was too long a time for them to go it alone.

Bringing this up I wonder, who is the bigger fool, him? - or his daughter/fiancee/rest of his family who all approved and went along with it?

No sir, he was not insane, not by any measure. He was in fact very well educated and held the highest position of authority at one of this state's teaching institutions.

What happened is he lost the faith, not his mind. That's the result of HAism. I remember him as one who was very, very strong in the faith before they went the HA route. I think that family of 13 were HAers for some 20 years or so by the time he married off his first daughter, not sure but I think he did the same for some of his other children. Obviously that was too long a time for them to go it alone.

Bringing this up I wonder, who is the bigger fool, him? - or his daughter/fiancee/rest of his family who all approved and went along with it?

I know SSPXers and trads that have committed ѕυιcιdє, that does not mean they are all suicidal. I think the one that started this thread has no real problems so he goes seeking whatever is close. It it like retired old men, they make the mailman coming late a big event that pisses him off all week. 

NO WAY Dood!!

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