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Author Topic: If Evolution, then why ZERO evidence of mankind evolving?  (Read 2997 times)

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Re: If Evolution, then why ZERO evidence of mankind evolving?
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2021, 10:07:09 AM »

Let me try to answer.

I don't think anyone denies that the Pacelli and Montinni families came from merchant class Jєωιѕн lines.

If you can find such a denial, please post it.



No one seems to question is that both "merchant" families came to Rome and converted to Catholicism.  
Okay, they are Catholics now and not Jҽωs anymore.  Is that so?

Try to find something on both Pacelli's and Montini's seminary life.  They both home schooled.

The converso jew is always "conflicted" and has to be watched to make sure he does not regress back to judaism.

I submit that Pope Pius XII had a conflicted papacy.  His papacy opened the door for the modernists.  
BTW, this is the judaic MO for initial infiltration into any organization

Pope Paul VI was Catholic and clearly developed into a nut-job, homo jew who wrecked our Church's liturgy among many other things.

For John Paul II, I firmly believe his mother was Jєωιѕн, meaning, according to Jєωιѕн interpretation, that he too was considered a jew.


I suppose there are hair locks extant of all three Popes that could be tested to technically prove the extent of their Jєωιѕнness.
OK, let me make sure I understand, but first of all, let me also make it clear, that I am not arguing the matter one way or the other.  Neither am I, for the sake of this discussion, going to debate whether having a Pope from a converted, ancestrally Jєωιѕн family, is a good thing, a bad thing, or a neutral thing.  St Peter was a Jew.  Not sure about Pope Linus.  Not sure when the line of originally-Jєωιѕн popes "petered out" (groannnnn....... :facepalm:).

Your logic is interesting, and TBH, I would have to dig out my college logic textbook, to see how much merit it has.  OK, here goes.  Nobody denies the facts you provide.  I have not yet found such a denial.  But let's say I do.  Or let's say I don't.  The latter is no proof of truth --- just proof that nobody denies these claims.

Seems to me that the hairlock testing would be the best way to go.

Re: If Evolution, then why ZERO evidence of mankind evolving?
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2021, 10:28:42 AM »
OK, let me make sure I understand, but first of all, let me also make it clear, that I am not arguing the matter one way or the other.  Neither am I, for the sake of this discussion, going to debate whether having a Pope from a converted, ancestrally Jєωιѕн family, is a good thing, a bad thing, or a neutral thing.  St Peter was a Jew.  Not sure about Pope Linus.  Not sure when the line of originally-Jєωιѕн popes "petered out" (groannnnn....... :facepalm:).

Your logic is interesting, and TBH, I would have to dig out my college logic textbook, to see how much merit it has.  OK, here goes.  Nobody denies the facts you provide.  I have not yet found such a denial.  But let's say I do.  Or let's say I don't.  The latter is no proof of truth --- just proof that nobody denies these claims.

Seems to me that the hairlock testing would be the best way to go.

Thanks for your response SM.

Yeah, I know, the Jҽωs have gotten a lot of cover on the: "Jesus was a Jew" rebuttal.  

But, I've found that the following Scriptural response usually leaves them speechless:  

"He came unto his own, and his own received him not." [John 1:11]

The anti-Pope Anacletus (1130) is said to be a precedent for our modern string of jew popes.

The following link is a Jєωιѕн newspaper's account of his papacy.

This day in Jєωιѕн history

What this article fails to mention is that
Anacletus was accused of bribing 17/22 Cardinals to elect him Pope.  

There was no conclave after his death, as St. Bernard of Clairvaux accompanied an army to Rome to install the rightful Peter, Innocent II as Pope.



Re: If Evolution, then why ZERO evidence of mankind evolving?
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2021, 11:42:18 AM »

I don't think anyone denies that the Pacelli and Montinni families came from merchant class Jєωιѕн lines.

 I did not know that Pope Pius XII was descended from Jews. I have considered it as a possibility, but never talked about it because I thought everyone would think I was crazy and hate on me. But now you bring it up.

Re: If Evolution, then why ZERO evidence of mankind evolving?
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2021, 03:46:53 PM »
I did not know that Pope Pius XII was descended from Jҽωs. I have considered it as a possibility, but never talked about it because I thought everyone would think I was crazy and hate on me. But now you bring it up.


This book was very revealing as to Papal behaviors requiring a "Mother figure" to ascend in the Vatican.


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Re: If Evolution, then why ZERO evidence of mankind evolving?
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2021, 06:01:12 PM »
Evolution continues:


‘The leader of the Bolshevik ʀɛʋօʟutιօn, Vladimir Lenin had been born into a Christian home but lost his faith as a teenager and embraced evolutionary materialism.  On his desk sat a sculpture of a chimpanzee sitting on a pile of books, including Darwin’s Origin of Species, contemplating a human skull.  Lenin coolly sat in the presence of that sculpture, overseeing the murders of millions of innocent people, all in the name of evolutionary progress.  Lenin’s successor as communist dictator of the Soviet Union, Josef Stalin, also lost his faith in God as a seminarian after reading Darwin’s evolution and Lyell’s uniformitarianism.  He oversaw the murder of more than twenty million people, all in the name of evolutionary progress.  When ƈσmmυɳιsm then spread to ƈhıną, Mao Tse Tung’s forces held compulsory seminars in every town they captured, not in the teachings of Marx, Lenin, or Mao, but in evolutionism, because, in the words of Passionist missionary bishop Cuthbert O’Gara, evolutionary theory could be used to destroy people’s faith in God, in the soul, and in the after-life, and ƈσmmυɳιsm could then take root in the minds of the people. The evolutionary hypothesis provided a rationale for communist movements all over the world.  It also provided a pseudo-scientific rationale for the eugenics movement in the United States, Germany and elsewhere. Evolutionary theory was used to justify genocide in the German colony of Namibia in the early twentieth century and to justify the ideology of the nαzι party which took power in Germany in 1933… According to Adolf Hitler, the purpose of the nαzι Party was to advance evolution.’ --- Kolbe Center report 17/7/2017.

In the numerous papal speeches to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, no pope ever officially said a bad word against evolution theories. Indeed quite the opposite. In 1950 Pope Pius XII wrote in his encyclical Humani Generis the following:

‘36. For these reasons the Teaching Authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions, on the part of men experienced in both fields, take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter - for the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immєdιαtely created by God…..’--- H. G.

On October 22, 1996, Pope John Paul II, reflecting on Pius XII’s ‘observation’ on evolution in Humani Generis said:

‘Today, almost half a century after the publication of the Encyclical, new knowledge has led to the recognition of more than one hypothesis in the theory of evolution. It is indeed remarkable that this theory has been progressively accepted by researchers, following a series of discoveries in various fields of knowledge. The convergence, neither sought nor fabricated, of the results of work that was conducted independently is in itself a significant argument in favour of this theory.'

Note there is never as mention of Eve in their evolution beliefs. Where does Eve fit in with evolution of Adam's body from pre-existing matter?

JP2 actually at one point called it "more than a theory".  

This was one of the many harmful things done by Pius XII ... adding to his condoning of NFP (leading to this Catholic Birth Control phenomenon), his experimentations with the Liturgy, and his early Ecuмenical gatherings.  And, oh yes, let us not forget that he appointed, during his lengthy reign, nearly every bishop that would eventually bring us the glories of Vatican II.  Heck, even Roncalli threw Bugnini out of the Vatican.