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I posted a misleading story
« on: November 01, 2006, 12:44:18 PM »
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  • As vandeler was so kind to point out to me, the article about gay priest getting aprroval from Benedict was not correct. Though his bishop is aware of his lifestyle (as well as I guess 50% of the priests in Quebec being gay) there is no reason for anyone to believe that Benedict is personally aware of this man in particular.

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    « Reply #1 on: November 01, 2006, 01:36:53 PM »
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  • I believe this as well. However, since Vandeler is there to check us out and point of fact I have no proof the Pope knows of this one particular queer, I stand corrected. Now, if only he would drive the rest of the queers and money changers out.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 01, 2006, 01:50:40 PM »
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  • Naughty girl, you read my mind. I was going to suggest the same for him but chickened out.

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    « Reply #3 on: November 01, 2006, 01:57:04 PM »
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    Don't happen to know how Vandeler excuses them, do you?  Perhaps he could be our liason to the Vatican to keep them honest, too.


    How do you know I excuse them... I don't know there is something to excuse in the first place.  Given that the agreement was made under the condition that the politics would not go counter to Catholic Doctrine.  

    I reserve my judgement until I can see wither this agreement is respected.

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    I posted a misleading story
    « Reply #4 on: November 01, 2006, 02:01:02 PM »
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  • A Sede and a neoCatholic fightin'?  

    Don't let me stop you two.  :popcorn:
    Catholic warriors:
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    My older avatar of Guy Fawkes that caused so much arguing, made by peters_student:
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    « Reply #5 on: November 01, 2006, 02:03:58 PM »
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  • No Fighting here...

    Some speculations on my motives is all I see.  

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    « Reply #6 on: November 01, 2006, 02:16:25 PM »
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  • Well Vandeler I too will wait to see the Nancy boys piroutte out of the priest hood. It will not happen and you know this as well as I do. And he will run and will speak ouot against the Chruch and nothing will happen. As a matter of fact, some one help me out here, did not Ratzinger as Cardinal during the good Senator Kerry's last run for the White House, actually soften the stance so that it was perfectly o.k.for this sodomite loving pro-baby killing politician to receive what mose took to be Jesus Christ in the Holly Eucharist from his liberal priest friends every Sunday. Never mind the fact that it was most likely not the Eucharist, is appeared so to the secular world and Pius X would have yelled from the top of his saintly lungs EXCOMUNICATED the bunch of ya's

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    « Reply #7 on: November 01, 2006, 02:17:14 PM »
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  • Pass the popcorn Campy, got any cola?


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    « Reply #8 on: November 01, 2006, 02:33:21 PM »
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    It will not happen and you know this as well as I do. And he will run and will speak ouot against the Chruch and nothing will happen.


    Yes, we will see.

    I'll point out though, that you clearly have no grasp of Quebec's politics and it's language.  Something I am in a priviledge position of being involved for the last 20 years.

    What I mean is that the Church will not be discussed as a politician.  As a priest though, he will probably continue his activism.  The line is blurry when you accomplish two functions.  This is what will be interesting to monitor.

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    « Reply #9 on: November 01, 2006, 02:42:11 PM »
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  • Yes, Mary is right.  Ihave always like you and you have the classiest looking men for your avatars.Who is this and who was the dishy James Bond kinda guy before?

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    « Reply #10 on: November 01, 2006, 02:48:49 PM »
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  • My objective is simple.

    Dis-associate Tradition with the type of conspiracy laden distrust this board seem quite fond off.

    I don't seek to necessarely change anyones point of view, but at least, provide outsiders an occasion to see that there is dissent from your point of view. So that one can approach Tradition without having this particular mindset.

    Why I defend Tradition while not considering myself a "Trad" is my reason only to know.

     


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    « Reply #11 on: November 01, 2006, 02:55:01 PM »
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    Yes, Mary is right.  Ihave always like you and you have the classiest looking men for your avatars.Who is this and who was the dishy James Bond kinda guy before?


    Glad you like them... It's part of my mystic, I'll never tell.

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    « Reply #12 on: November 01, 2006, 03:44:05 PM »
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  • Let me put it like this...

    I won't say a word against an impeccably documented claim, with fairly good reasoning even if I don't agree with it.  To the contrary, I will investiguate it, as this is my nature (And it does get annoying at times).

    If it's not documented and if it relies clearly faulty logic, out of context quotes, or outright speculation without any basis in fact, I will take it down, not with my militant feeling. But rather with a critical eye, and lit with opposing facts that are verifiable.

    Other times, like the Rove bit, I'll just run the clock, as there is nothing to debunk but wait.

    No there is no law against conspiracies... allthough I sometimes wonder if in some cases it's not clear diffamation.  My quest is not against conspiracies who exist all around us, but against gross contraptions claiming to be conspiracies.


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    « Reply #13 on: November 01, 2006, 03:50:07 PM »
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    So your dissent is unnecessary for them.


    Understand this, I don't claim to be doing some kind of public service.  That I'm actually making a difference.
    But I do know by my own personal experience, that the disagrement felt, could very well be a factor driving away from Tradition or Catholicism.

    If anything, maybe it makes the conversation more interesting given it remains civil.

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    « Reply #14 on: November 01, 2006, 07:23:11 PM »
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    Frankly, I think that distrust is the basis of the Traditional church today.


    I agree, and I think it's a not the noblest of foundations. I've been searching high and low for other sentiments driving the Traditional movement. I've seen others, but distrust is certainly a strong driver.

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    That's the problem with conspiracies.  They aren't advertised.  If they were they wouldn't be conspiracies, now would they?  And for some unfathomable reason, people these days seem to think that if they aren't advertised, they are merely theories.


    True... I'm not one to think that the narrative as played out in the media is all it.  Truely, the world is far more complex then the simple, easy to follow narrative presented.  

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    So what you have here is a jury which has declared these people guilty on the evidence we have before us.  It would be stupid to withhold judgment until the mainstream media confess, because they aren't going to.  That's like saying no man is guilty unless he confesses.  When you look at the film of the FEMA camp and listen to the eyewitness accounts, you are reviewing evidence as good or better than any in a courtroom.  When you read the old teachings of the Church and read the latter day writings and see the pictures which stand in contradiction of traditional teaching, you have enough evidence for a "reasonable" man.


    So you have come to some understanding and you seek validation of it in some events, reports, films etc... perfectly fine.  I do the same to validate my own assumptions.
    Problem is, you need, just like I need to be cautious and flexible and learn from mistakes.  If your short term outlooks and expections keeps failing you, and are allways playing catchup by seeking anomalies in reported events, it's not looking to good.

    If you really nailed it, and you undertand how the world turns, your bang on most of the time, and everything unfolds without much surprises.. Except of course, when a real surprise comes along.. but even then, if your model is right, your able to reconstitute and undertand why it happen.  If it don't you need to sit down and re-figure out the whole thing and be willing to consider you might got it wrong. I changed my mind many times, and still do.

    So, while I do not claim to know all, It's my hope through better reality model, I can demonstrate the unlikelyness of a shadow governement. That all party actually are motivated by their own geo-political situation and it all makes a perfect integrated sense, once you get it.

    Pretty ambitous uh ?  Yes.  :dancing:

     

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