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Offline Thursday

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I made a documentary
« on: April 12, 2011, 07:35:27 PM »
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  • At the center of the film is the election of Cardinal Siri in 1958.
    I got hold of video of the white smoke from to days before the election of John XXIII which is in part 4. I try to cover the rest nof the problems in light of the fact that there was a coup d'etat in 1958. Enjoy!

    Part 1 Historical Precedents  
    Part 2 October 1958  
    Part 3 The Chosen Candidate  
    Part 4 The 1958 Conclave  
    Part 5 Who was John XXIII  
    Part 6 The 1963 Conclave  
    Part 7 Who was Paul VI  
    Part 8 The Destruiction of the Mass  
    Part 9 Year of Two Conclaves  
    Part 10 Cardinal Siri Confronted  
    Part 11 Conclusion  
    Part 12 The UndergroundChurch  

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    « Reply #1 on: April 12, 2011, 08:51:56 PM »
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  • Thursday!
    I just want to tell you thank you so much for these utubes!  They are awsome!  I do believe Siri was pope.  
    These videos are profound testimony for SEDEVACANTISM, the belief that the chair of Peter is empty!
    May God Bless you!
    Do you have a CD made available?
    :applause: :applause:



    Offline MaterDominici

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    « Reply #3 on: April 12, 2011, 09:51:01 PM »
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  • Question: why the red text (in part 2) that isn't narrated? It's difficult to read and therefore moves from the screen too quickly, imo.

    Back to the videos...
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...

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    « Reply #4 on: April 12, 2011, 10:05:12 PM »
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  • Yes, I struggled with that section. I thought a blank screen with writing was too dull. In the end I just had to stop deliberating and finish the thing. Believe me, it wasn't that easy to put together.


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    « Reply #5 on: April 13, 2011, 04:04:30 PM »
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  • Oh wow, looking good! EVERYONE QUICK WATCH THEM!!

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    « Reply #6 on: April 13, 2011, 05:47:53 PM »
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  • LOL, part 8 Martin Luther voice.


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    « Reply #7 on: April 15, 2011, 07:24:08 AM »
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  • Unfortunately, the first two segments of the film are probably the least interesting even though they are necessary to fully make my case.

    Part IV was the most costly, so if you watch any thing please watch Part 4 The 1958 Conclave  

    The most popular section after that so far is the one on Paul VI. The film is not exactly something that's easy to watch from beginning to end, each segment deals with a seperate subject so I suggest looking over the titles in the original post and picking away at whatever looks interesting.



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    « Reply #8 on: April 15, 2011, 08:23:54 AM »
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  • I haven't watched them all yet, but as you suggested took the time now to view #4.  I said this before on this forum, I remember that day well when the so-called white then black smoke was seen.  Heard it on the radio, they said, the white smoke, we have a pope, then everything was changed to black smoke and the people everywhere were confused.  

    I also heard many times that there is evidence that John XXIII was a freemason, I think the evidence was in Turkey, but I could be wrong on that, it has been awhile since I read that in a Catholic magazine, titled "The Seraph", not sure this publication is in print any longer.  

    On this matter I am betwixt and between, since what does it matter much now, all this damage has been done, and I wonder too what does God think of Cardinal Siri about his lack of courage.  Yet maybe nothing would have been gained if he did accept his valid election.  Since he denied it, however, should we really consider him a pope after all?

    Will watch all of the YouTubes and I do want to thank you for doing this research, taking the time to undertake this endeavor, it will, I feel wake up many people.  

     

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    « Reply #9 on: April 15, 2011, 12:22:49 PM »
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  • Quote from: MyrnaM
     Since he denied it, however, should we really consider him a pope after all?

     


    This was my question as well -- I was just waiting until I finished the videos to see if you addressed this.
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...

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    « Reply #10 on: April 15, 2011, 02:13:56 PM »
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  • Thursday- did you use a text to voice for the narrator? If so, do you mind me asking which one you used?


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    « Reply #11 on: April 15, 2011, 02:24:15 PM »
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  • Not sure what you mean, I wrote a script, sent it to a guy on the east coast and he did the narration.

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    « Reply #12 on: April 15, 2011, 02:31:59 PM »
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  • Quote from: MaterDominici
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     Since he denied it, however, should we really consider him a pope after all?


    This was my question as well -- I was just waiting until I finished the videos to see if you addressed this.


    I'm also wondering about this. So far I've only watched parts 3 and 4, but it doesn't seem that the narrator was able to prove that Cardinal Siri was pope (as he says, Siri refused it several times), or that Cardinal Roncalli was not validly elected. He tries to show that Roncalli was the Masonic 'candidate,' but I didn't find he did an entirely convincing job of that, either. At the most, the video shows that Roncalli was not the ideal candidate for the papacy (surprise, surprise).

    Guess I'll have to watch the whole thing and see if my opinion changes.
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    « Reply #13 on: April 15, 2011, 02:54:01 PM »
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     Since he denied it, however, should we really consider him a pope after all?


    This was my question as well -- I was just waiting until I finished the videos to see if you addressed this.


    I'm also wondering about this. So far I've only watched parts 3 and 4, but it doesn't seem that the narrator was able to prove that Cardinal Siri was pope (as he says, Siri refused it several times), or that Cardinal Roncalli was not validly elected. He tries to show that Roncalli was the Masonic 'candidate,' but I didn't find he did an entirely convincing job of that, either. At the most, the video shows that Roncalli was not the ideal candidate for the papacy (surprise, surprise).

    Guess I'll have to watch the whole thing and see if my opinion changes.


    Look at it this way, we had a pope and a church until October 9th, 1958. From October 28th onwards it was all downhill. Now, did anything significant happen between these two dates? Yes, a five minute unambiguous signal of white smoke. This signal is never released unless the pope has accepted the office and chosen his name.

    Also, resignation is invalid by law if it was made out of grave fear, unjustly inflicted, fraud, substantial error, or simony" (1917 Code of Canon Law, Canon 185).

    So, is it fair to state that someone was elected on the night of October 26th, 1958 and that if that person was put under duress to resign the resignation is null and void?

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    « Reply #14 on: April 15, 2011, 03:53:09 PM »
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    I also heard many times that there is evidence that John XXIII was a freemason, I think the evidence was in Turkey, but I could be wrong on that, it has been awhile since I read that in a Catholic magazine, titled "The Seraph", not sure this publication is in print any longer.  

     


    I go into a bit of detail on John XXIII and his freemasonic escapades in Part 5 Who was John XXIII  

     

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