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Offline cassini

Re: I can see why a lot of people are anti-Catholic (sometimes)
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2017, 02:17:54 PM »
Quote from: rosary93 on June 25, 2017, 06:04:34 PM
Catholics in general are not what they should be

I know, Big Newsflash of the Century!

And they do not all know the Bible so a lot of Evangelicals and others can do the "gotcha" and feel superior

Well, I have read the entire Bible.. and of course we Catholics hear the Word read to us every day if we go to daily Mass, which means we have vritually heard the whole Bible after only 3 yrs. I have been trying to go to daily Mass every day for many yrs.. The devil hates tht and lately things have not been so good... but anyhow...

Yeh, and besides that, you can barely distinguish most Catholics from Protestants or even non-believers (worldlings)

So yeh... I can see why there is a problem

'Know the Bible' you write rosary 93, So yeh, I too can see why there is a problem.

No man on earth today can read and understand every word of the Bible as God meant it. Protestants think they are allowed read and interpret every word of the Bible themselves and that is why there are now thousands of different sects of Protestantism around the world.

Catholics on the other hand adhere to the Church's interpretation alone, as it is the only reading permitted. But Catholics live the Bible in so many ways that it is not necessary to read it all. The references to the Bible in Catholic Masses (Tridentine Masses) show us from where our faith and practices come from. Catholic books are in their thousands quote every book in the Bible if one wants to check on them. Our faith also has tradition, rejected by Protestants.

Catholic reading of all the Bible has to be an act of prayer, even if there are many things we cannot understand. If it is the Novus Ordo Mass you go to, please find a traditional Trent Mass, a sung one if possible. Only then will you know what the Mass of Holy Thursday was about. All the relevant passages of Scripture are read on the day and a missal is ESSENTIAL to read these readings in English.
You sound like a good person, but please do not upset yourself about others reading of the Bible. It is what you do that will count. God bless.
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Offline Confiteor Deo

Re: I can see why a lot of people are anti-Catholic (sometimes)
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2017, 03:51:02 AM »
The best arguments against the Sola Scriptura position of protestants are as follows:

1) The New Testament was compiled in 397 AD at the Council of Carthage (Source: Where We Got Our Bible by the Rev Henry Graham) http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/protestantism/wbible.htm

2) The Church was founded well before 397 AD, because most of the New Testament is letters written to the Church already in existance.  How did this early church exist without the bible? How did they know not to circuмcise for example ?

3) The Nicene Creed of 325 AD predates the bible and this creed is just un update of the Apostles Creed which dates to apostolic times (estimates date the Apostles Creed to around AD 80. The Nicene update was required to answer all the heresies that were infecting the Church

4) The last verse of the Gospel and Saint John reads "But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written." So what else did Christ say? The first apostles, who wrote the creed and established the Church are in a far better position to know 'What Would Jesus Have Done'? than Luther, Calvin or Henry the VIII 1500 years later.

For Catholics living in protestant countries, I would say that Where We Got out Bible is essential reading. Also watch the many Solo Scriptura debates on youtube with Robert Sungenis and his protestant sparring partners. He is brilliant because he knows his bible better than many evangelicals and the debates are very instructive.

One needs to understand however than Catholicism is the only religion that doesn't promise a guaranteed eternal life. When you belong to a religion like protestantism that will give you eternal salvation with very little effort, man's fallen nature insures that most will not examine closely the opposing arguments. This ensures that the illogical premises of protestantism will have a very long life if the only barriers they meet are uninstructed and tepid Catholics.
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Offline TKGS

Re: I can see why a lot of people are anti-Catholic (sometimes)
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2017, 07:29:30 AM »
Quote from: Last Tradhican on June 26, 2017, 05:43:45 PM
In my experience Protestants do not know the bible, it is just that Catholics know it less. 
In my experience, many Catholics actually know quite a bit about the bible--they just can't quote it or tell you where it is.  Protestants, on the other hand, can generally quote specific snippets chapter and verse and misuse those quotes to "prove" their heresies.
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Offline rosary93

Re: I can see why a lot of people are anti-Catholic (sometimes)
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2017, 12:02:02 PM »
Quote from: Miseremini on June 26, 2017, 05:07:08 PM
How do you figure Catholics have "heard the whole Bible after only 3 years"?

The Epistles and Gospels are the same every year.
If you go to daily Mass you will hear virtually the entire Bible in 3 yrs, repetition notwithstanding
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Offline rosary93

Re: I can see why a lot of people are anti-Catholic (sometimes)
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2017, 12:07:15 PM »
Quote from: Matthew on June 26, 2017, 05:14:51 PM
Quote from: Matthew on Mon Jun 26 2017 17:14:51 GMT-0500 (Central Standard Time)

There are Catholics for whom smells and bells is ALL they have (e.g., they compromise with the world, don't know their Faith, don't oppose modern errors including feminism, liberalism, modernism, communism, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, judaism, etc.) and they should be criticized for that.

no mention of works of charity. But Jesus said that whatever [practical need] we refuse Christians, we refuse HIM

Jesus mentioned eternal Hell more than once and one of the most imporant psgs in the Bible says that those who did not care for the POOR will be rejected and go to Hell

"When I was [sick, hungry, lonely... in need] you cared for me"

or not

and the ones who are in the "not" category end up in "eternal punishment"

Most Catholics I know or know OF are sorely lacking in this kind of  charity... They see needy people and go the other way as fast as they can.

There is a scrputre in the old Testament: "Those who close their ears to the cry of the poor, will themselves cry and not be heard."

this indicates Hell... where their cries will not be heard. In this life, they may have it all.. but the next life... things just may be a little different then....


:-X
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