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Offline Pelly

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Human-animal hybrids?
« on: March 15, 2013, 01:45:17 PM »
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  • This article states that UK scientists made human-animal hybrids. Is this true? How it is compatibile with the Faith? Does this prove evolution? If human-animal fertilization is not possible naturally, then could it be the work of demons?


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    Human-animal hybrids?
    « Reply #1 on: March 15, 2013, 01:54:30 PM »
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  • I wonder if a human-animal hybrid would have an immortal soul.
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    Human-animal hybrids?
    « Reply #2 on: March 15, 2013, 01:56:51 PM »
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  • Naturally, these hybrids wouldn't be possible, and the Bible forbids zoosɛҳuąƖity. Also, these monsters would be demonic delusions and will have serious defects and will become tumors as human and animal DNA is incompatibile.

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    Human-animal hybrids?
    « Reply #3 on: March 15, 2013, 02:09:02 PM »
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    Human-animal hybrids?
    « Reply #4 on: March 15, 2013, 02:49:12 PM »
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  • Quote from: Pelly
    This article states that UK scientists made human-animal hybrids. Is this true? How it is compatibile with the Faith? Does this prove evolution? If human-animal fertilization is not possible naturally, then could it be the work of demons?


    Pelly, you seem very concerned with conspiracy theories and subjects which can be easily proven or disproven via the Catechism or in the case of the natural world, an understanding of science (not that science is infallible).  I don't think this is worth worrying about!

    I do not think that human sperm can fertilize an animal egg.  Hybrids like sheep-goat hybrids where a ram breeds a doe are exceedingly rare.  There are other hybrids which are more compatible because of chromosome count, etc.  But a dog can't breed a cat and produce offspring.  Naturally, no, a human-animal hybrid could never occur.

    I suppose a human nucleus implanted in an animal cell, or human cells mixed in animal could potentially be produced.  Maybe human DNA- but that could potentially be placed in plants too.  Even though we have souls, we are still biologically animals- we have DNA and RNA and eukaryotic cell structure and everything else biologically that animals have.  If it is possible to mix genetic material from more than one species, then it goes the same for humans.

    No, this doesn't prove evolution and I'd say it goes against Church teachings and natural law if it is true.  What would make you think otherwise?

    But I also wouldn't rely on a website called, "Women of Grace" for the truth about human-animal hybrids.  That would be like relying on CathInfo for information on how to do PCR testing.    

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    Human-animal hybrids?
    « Reply #5 on: March 15, 2013, 03:02:45 PM »
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  • Quote from: Pelly
    This article states that UK scientists made human-animal hybrids. Is this true?

    Yes. A few years ago the UK created special laws which allow the "creation" of human-animal hybrids aka chimeras. One of the first countries to allow so, IIRC.

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    How it is compatibile with the Faith?

    It is not. But isn't the UK since Henry VIII one of the most anti-Catholic countries ?

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    Does this prove evolution?

    No. The untrue evolution can't be proved. :-)

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    If human-animal fertilization is not possible naturally, then could it be the work of demons?

    Demons are surely the master minds behind this "idea", but it's executed by their human helpers usually.

    Not by chance are chimeras symbols for demons and the underworld since a long time, in particular in Catholic cultures.

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    Naturally, these hybrids wouldn't be possible, and the Bible forbids zoosɛҳuąƖity. Also, these monsters would be demonic delusions and will have serious defects and will become tumors as human and animal DNA is incompatibile.

    A few years ago some chimera monsters escaped the labs and were sighted (and caught) in South America. The (European) mass media even covered these stories (plural), however they didn't call them chimeras but "aliens" to obfuscate reality. Today a lot of demonic things are being called "aliens" by the globalists, isn't it.

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    Human-animal hybrids?
    « Reply #6 on: March 15, 2013, 03:06:31 PM »
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  • It is times like this I believe that science is more of a great evil than it is good.

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    « Reply #7 on: March 15, 2013, 03:24:49 PM »
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    It is times like this I believe that science is more of a great evil than it is good.


    Science isn't evil.  Individuals may use it to do evil, however.  Same with firearms- guns do not walk around shooting children and bystanders.  People pulling the trigger do.  

    I do not see how combining DNA from several species is supposed to cure disease.  
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    « Reply #8 on: March 15, 2013, 03:32:02 PM »
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    Science isn't evil.  Individuals may use it to do evil, however.  Same with firearms- guns do not walk around shooting children and bystanders.  People pulling the trigger do.  

    I do not see how combining DNA from several species is supposed to cure disease.  


    Science is evil when it tries to make itself a religion and replace God.

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    « Reply #9 on: March 15, 2013, 03:32:33 PM »
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    A few years ago some chimera monsters escaped the labs and were sighted (and caught) in South America. The (European) mass media even covered these stories (plural), however they didn't call them chimeras but "aliens" to obfuscate reality. Today a lot of demonic things are being called "aliens" by the globalists, isn't it.


    I really doubt that this happened.  Such hybrids rarely survive gestation- unless you are trying to say that these are completely lab-created creatures that gestated in an artificial womb and were somehow kept alive- and if they did, they would probably be pretty unhealthy.

    Even cloned animals are rarely considered to be as healthy as their traditional counterparts.  Dolly the sheep is merely a famous example.  She was, I believe, euthanized at a fairly young age because of a lung disease.

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    « Reply #10 on: March 15, 2013, 03:36:36 PM »
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    Science isn't evil.  Individuals may use it to do evil, however.  Same with firearms- guns do not walk around shooting children and bystanders.  People pulling the trigger do.  

    I do not see how combining DNA from several species is supposed to cure disease.  


    Science is evil when it tries to make itself a religion and replace God.


    Science doesn't try to make itself a religion- again, that is the work of people.  Science is an area of study- it is not infallible, it's not a religion.  Science is not evil.  If people use it in an evil manner, that doesn't make it in and of itself evil.



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    Human-animal hybrids?
    « Reply #11 on: March 15, 2013, 03:43:03 PM »
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  • Quote from: ShepherdofSheep
    Science doesn't try to make itself a religion- again, that is the work of people.  Science is an area of study- it is not infallible, it's not a religion.  Science is not evil.  If people use it in an evil manner, that doesn't make it in and of itself evil.


    I never said science in and of itself is evil I said when people see it as another religion than it can be harmful. Take Darwinism for example, that has become a scientific religion.

    Then again intellectualism as a rule always includes people who think they are better and smarter than everyone else. :wink:

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    « Reply #12 on: March 15, 2013, 05:11:02 PM »
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    Quote from: ShepherdofSheep
    Science doesn't try to make itself a religion- again, that is the work of people.  Science is an area of study- it is not infallible, it's not a religion.  Science is not evil.  If people use it in an evil manner, that doesn't make it in and of itself evil.


    I never said science in and of itself is evil I said when people see it as another religion than it can be harmful. Take Darwinism for example, that has become a scientific religion.

    Then again intellectualism as a rule always includes people who think they are better and smarter than everyone else. :wink:


    I understand what you are saying.  But your orginal statement was something like you see science as a greater evil than something good.  It CAN be used that way, yes.

    You should stop making remarks about "intellectuals".  The scientists I know are pretty humble.  I'm friends with quite a few.  I'll wager you appreciate the products of science which you use every day- like the computer you are reading this on, the medications you might have taken, and even the steak you might have had for dinner this week.  

     :laugh1:

    Like I said before, God put different people on this earth and thank Him that we are not all alike!  Be grateful for those who love book knowledge and can apply it and those who are talented in other areas.

    I personally enjoy learning about the great complexity of God's creation and it makes me feel closer to Him when I study science.  In that way, I think it's a tremendous blessing.  When it is used for good (to discover moral treatments for man and animal, etc.), it is good.  Some people using it do so for evil purposes, whether they realize it or not.





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    « Reply #13 on: March 15, 2013, 05:30:50 PM »
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  • The nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr does, in fact, experiment with human-animal hybrids. Many of the "germ labs" in the US, most notably the one in Plum Island, creates human-animal hybrids.

    There is also a primate research center in Georgia that performs such experiments.

    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #14 on: March 15, 2013, 06:26:18 PM »
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  • Quote from: ShepherdofSheep
    I understand what you are saying.  But your orginal statement was something like you see science as a greater evil than something good.  It CAN be used that way, yes.

    You should stop making remarks about "intellectuals".  The scientists I know are pretty humble.  I'm friends with quite a few.  I'll wager you appreciate the products of science which you use every day- like the computer you are reading this on, the medications you might have taken, and even the steak you might have had for dinner this week.  

     :laugh1:

    Like I said before, God put different people on this earth and thank Him that we are not all alike!  Be grateful for those who love book knowledge and can apply it and those who are talented in other areas.

    I personally enjoy learning about the great complexity of God's creation and it makes me feel closer to Him when I study science.  In that way, I think it's a tremendous blessing.  When it is used for good (to discover moral treatments for man and animal, etc.), it is good.  Some people using it do so for evil purposes, whether they realize it or not.


    I knew plenty of intellectuals when I was in school and they were anything but humble but I was hanging out with the athlete crowd back then so maybe that's just my experience. :wink: