Author Topic: Huge spying blimp in the sky (Read 902 times)

Trinity · « **Reply #1 on:** January 16, 2007, 07:26:24 PM »

Would it bother you, Cindy, if, because of your religious affilitation you were on America's Most Wanted?

Trinity · « **Reply #2 on:** January 17, 2007, 08:08:44 PM »

I'll find more tomorrow, too tired tonight. Believe it or not, Cindy, the FBI and CIA talk like these peopel below---barring references to Bush, of course.

Radical Christian terrorists
There are quite a few stories around the net today about Rosie O'Donnell's comments that were made on The View yesterday. In a discussion about terrorist attacks and such Ms. O'Donnell stated:

"Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America where we have a separation of church and state. We're a democracy here."

"With abortion as the ultimate justification for violence, God's terrorists are approaching a quarter of a century of mayhem in north America," writes Christopher Reed in the UK Herald (note how we aren't hearing about this from an American source). " According to the Department of Justice, the present total is more than a dozen murders, 15 attempted murders, 209 bombings, 72 arsons, more than 750 death and bomb threats, and unknown hundreds of acts of vandalism, stalking, burglary, and harassment. Two on the FBI's 10 most wanted list are Christian terrorists: Eric Rudolph of Christian Identity, a fugitive from the Olympic bombing that killed one in Atlanta in 1996 and a fatal abortion clinic bombing in in which a nurse was also blinded; and James Kopp, a disciple of the fanatical Catholic group, Lambs of Christ, who murdered an abortion doctor in Alabama in 1998 and up to five in Canada with a high-powered rifle."

"The American media have reported these incidents, but they don't use the phrase 'Christian terrorists', although that clearly is what they are," says scholar Frederick Clarkson, author of Eternal Hostility: The Struggle Between Theocracy and Democracy. "The media are terrified of being accused of anti-religious bigotry. They also say we don't hear from them these days, but that's because they deliberately kept quiet during the election year; it's not generally realised how anti-democratic they are. They are essentially authoritarian and it's a scandal America is not being told."

Yet these same Christian terrorists and their admirers are strong supporters of the Bush administration and are obviously being screened and protected by it. If they weren't, then justice would dictate that, in this supposed era of fighting terrorism, that these people, with their appalling history of violence and threats of terrorism, would be persecuted by the DOJ with the same zeal that Muslim terrorists are. You would think that vicious hatemongers like Limbaugh, who intentionally attempt to incite listeners to violence, would be subject to the same endless scrutiny and harassment by the DOJ as Al-Jazeera - which, despite its often lurid content, has never gone to a fraction of the extremes that Limbaugh and Savage routinely go to. But no - all of these terrorists are left alone to continue to foment and/or plot violence against the nonfanatical rest of us.

"nonfanatical rest of us."

Trinity · « **Reply #3 on:** January 18, 2007, 10:39:04 AM »

As San Francisco police were arresting more than 150 people protesting the Biotechnology Industry Organization last week, an FBI agent stood inside the conference center, speaking to a group of scientists, pharmaceutical reps, and biotech executives. His message: The FBI considers ecoterrorism and animal terrorism the country's leading domestic terror threats.

That's news to the folks who lost loved ones in the attack on the World Trade Center buildings. So far, "ecoterrorists" like the Earth Liberation Front and "animal terrorists" (a term that conjures up images of lab rats with explosives strapped to their bellies) like the Animal Liberation Front have engaged in property destruction and the disruption of laboratory experiments, not the outright physical violence of, for example, antiabortion extremists who've murdered doctors and clinic staff and spit on and shoved pregnant women attempting to enter women's health clinics.

Among most of the people I know, the general fear is not of a bunch of animal activists freeing mink from a mink farm. It's a growing fear of another kind of domestic terrorism: the depredations of our own government.

Last year, in February 2003, the FBI raided the home of a University of Idaho student, Sami Omar Al-Hussayen. Al-Hussayen was charged with three counts of terrorism, four counts of making false statements, and seven counts of visa fraud. Al-Hussayen, the son of a former Saudi education minister, a Ph.D. candidate who's studied in the U.S. for nine years, a husband and father, and a pillar of the community who organized a candlelight vigil for the victims of September 11th, had volunteered his time to a Michigan-based group, the Islamic Assembly of North America, to set up a website that promoted the study of Islam. The website contained a link to another website set up by a group the U.S. government had listed as a terrorist organization. Another link pointed to a site that, among a huge volume of postings, contained four, short docuмents written by radical clerics discussing the war in Chechnya and the conflict in Israel and Palestine. One of these docuмents sanctioned ѕυιcιdє attacks and mentioned flying airplanes into buildings. The visa violations and false statement charges against Al-Hussayen involved his work with a nonprofit organization; his visa lists him as a student.

Al-Hussayen's only crime, then, is that he took the Constitution and the Bill of Rights seriously and exercised his free speech rights. In fact, his case is seen as a major test of a provision in the Patriot Act that targets so-called "secondary players" in the war on terrorism--those who give aid to groups or individuals who later carry out terrorist attacks.

After more than a year in jail, Al-Hussayen was acquitted by a federal jury on June 10, 2004. The case against him was so thin that his defense attorneys produced only one witness, former CIA Near East division chief Frank Anderson, who testified about terrorist recruitment methods and questioned the FBI's notion that people give up their jobs and family connections to go join a jihad in Chechnya or Palestine after simply reading a few postings on the Internet. After Al-Hussayen's acquittal, Anderson said, "I take satisfaction in the verdict. But I am embarrassed and ashamed that our government has kept a decent and innocent man in jail for a very long time."

Embarrassed and ashamed is not how Al-Hussayen feels. His wife and children have been deported, his studies interrupted, his friends and associates alienated, and his liberty and sense of personal security taken completely away from him. "Terrified" might be a better word to describe the pall that's settled over the muslim community in the small college town and within university community of which Al-Hussayen was once an active and much admired member.

Although Al-Hussayen won his case, he lost so much more. He will probably choose to leave the U.S., now that his wife and children are in Saudi Arabia. Meanwhile, the FBI and the U.S. government, which had no case to begin with, still won their objective through sheer harassment.

For those of us who exercise our free speech rights frequently--or other Constitutional rights, for that matter--Al-Hussayen's case is a chilling example. It's meant to send a message: if the government doesn't like what you have to say or doesn't want you to protest in the streets, you can spend a really long time in jail, lose your job, be denied visiting rights from your family and friends, and spend thousands of dollars defending yourself. Or you can just shut up.

Beyond that is the specter of torture. Abuse of inmates in our jails and prisons has been growing worse with the privatization of the U.S. prison system and the "tough on crime" laws of the 1980s and 1990s. Inmates are processed like cheese spread, and treated with about as much respect. And now, with the revelation that the Bush administration sought ways to circuмvent both international and national laws to justify the torture of inmates at Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib, no one can feel sanguine at the prospect of spending time in a U.S. jail or prison. It's no coincidence that the men who set up the U.S. military prison system in Iraq are executives from the private prison industry here in the United States.

Meanwhile the FBI continues to target domestic dissent as its top priority, even after John Ashcroft announced that Al Qaeda was planning another attack on U.S. soil sometime in the near future, possibly this summer. No one in the servile, mainstream press has pointed out the contradiction, but those of us who feel and express a profound discontent with our government see the overall trend: the terrorists are not foreign; they're the people who police our streets, tap our phone lines, monitor our spending habits, and decide who can go free and who will be terrorized.

From the Protocols (12)

1. The word "freedom," which can be interpreted in various ways, is defined by us as follows -

2. Freedom is the right to do what which the law allows. This interpretation of the word will at the proper time be of service to us, because all freedom will thus be in our hands, since the laws will abolish or create only that which is desirable for us according to the aforesaid program.