Author Topic: How do Flat Earthers explain an Eclipse (Read 10460 times)

ultrarigorist · « **Reply #15 on:** August 21, 2017, 09:05:34 PM »

Quote from: happenby on August 21, 2017, 02:47:15 PM

The eclipse can only occur on the flat earth. It impossible to view an eclipse on a globe spinning 1000 mph and jetting around the sun at 67,000 mph and orbiting the galaxy at 550,000 mph and jetting out from the Big Bang at 1,000,000 mph. Everything would be a blur. Globe earth barreling 4 different directions, 4 different speeds is the official NASA mantra. As Enoch explains, the earth is stationary with the sun and moon traversing across the plane and every so often, the two pass each other. Being the same size, the moon and sun can eclipse each other as they pass at these times. Eclipses are fairly common, although its been 38 years since a full eclipse of the sun occurred over the US.

Ok, I'm not really good at math, maybe a little better than zero which means a little better than an unleavened-earther.
But I think math says that if 2 things are the same size and they look the same size to an observer, then they are at the same distance. So the sun and moon must smash into each other at least twice every three years. Right?

ultrarigorist · « **Reply #16 on:** August 21, 2017, 09:22:53 PM »

Quote from: ultrarigorist on August 21, 2017, 09:05:34 PM

Ok, I'm not really good at math, maybe a little better than zero which means a little better than an unleavened-earther.
But I think math says that if 2 things are the same size and they look the same size to an observer, then they are at the same distance. So the sun and moon must smash into each other at least twice every three years. Right?

Like today for example.

DZ PLEASE · « **Reply #17 on:** August 21, 2017, 09:29:28 PM »

Faithpalm yourself twice.
1."Being the same size…"
1. implies =/= size = no eclipse (?) otherwise…
2. Why mention the size bit at all?

Is my thumb sun sized because I can block the sun with it?

Oh wait, the sun just shrank when I drew my thumb eyewards…

And they accuse the silly geometers of sorcery…

Wow

Quote from: ultrarigorist on August 21, 2017, 09:05:34 PM

Ok, I'm not really good at math, maybe a little better than zero which means a little better than an unleavened-earther.
But I think math says that if 2 things are the same size and they look the same size to an observer, then they are at the same distance. So the sun and moon must smash into each other at least twice every three years. Right?

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #18 on:** August 21, 2017, 10:53:18 PM »

Quote from: ultrarigorist on August 21, 2017, 09:22:53 PM

Ok, I'm not really good at math, maybe a little better than zero which means a little better than an unleavened-earther.
But I think math says that if 2 things are the same size and they look the same size to an observer, then they are at the same distance. So the sun and moon must smash into each other at least twice every three years. Right?

Like today for example.

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Well, not a bad question, but actually, sometimes the moon looks larger and sometimes the sun looks larger, so if they're both the same distance away, sometimes the sun should be in FRONT of the moon, but it never is, even when it appears larger than the moon, such as during an annular eclipse, which is more common than the total solar eclipse.
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happenby · « **Reply #19 on:** August 22, 2017, 02:06:04 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat on August 21, 2017, 06:38:28 PM

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False ------------- how many false propositions have flat-earthers made? Who can count them all??
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Straw man. Geocentrism does not incude a spinning globe, so that's false. Nor does it "jet" around the sun, so that's falsehood #3. Nor orbiting the galaxy -- falsehood #4; and Big Bang is falsehood #5. Five false propositions in one post! Is that all you can do?
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Oh, wait. I guess not. Now you have the globe earth barreling 4 different directions (falsehood #6) and 4 different speeds (falsehood #7).
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Then you refer to the book of Enoch, which is not in the Bible, in other words, apocryphal. The sun and moon are not the same size, falsehood #8.
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Only eight false statements all in one post? Come on, you can do much better than that.
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The geocentrism model has NEVER included a globe. NASA claims the globe JETS around the sun at 67,000 mph, obviously just ONE of their myths. Orbiting the galaxy is another NASA lie. NASA's Big Bang is another lie. NASA's globe is a lie! NASA's official line is earth travels 4 directions at 4 different speeds ALL AT THE SAME TIME, another lie. I can name 100 Catholic books that are not scriptural, but that doesn't mean they aren't true. The sun and moon measure quite close in size, and certainly not the thousands of miles different in size NASA claims, nor the ridiculous distances. As if my lil' ol' camera can picture some heavenly body 1,000,000 miles away. SMH. Keep em comin' Neil, its not over till the fat lady sings...and I can't hear you.

hismajesty · « **Reply #20 on:** August 22, 2017, 02:23:12 PM »

Going to do my best to be patient in spite of all the trolling here.

The sun and the moon are most likely the same size. This makes a SOLAR eclipse easily explained when you think about it. The moon goes in front of the sun.

What we flat earthers do not have an explanation for is a LUNAR eclipse. There is possibly a dark body in the sky. Or it is simply in the nature of the moon to do this every so often.

In any case, all the self complacent cynics wasting space on this forum should eat some humble pie when they realise they can't explain the apparition of objects which should be beyond the horizon. There is no curve folks. Mock us all you want, it wont make the curve appear.

http://flatearthtrads.forumga.net/t17-objects-over-the-horizon-proofs

Nooseph Polten · « **Reply #21 on:** August 22, 2017, 04:43:34 PM »

Quote from: JezusDeKoning on August 21, 2017, 04:26:40 PM

Debating children is not worth my time.

I wasn't debating you.

Nooseph Polten · « **Reply #22 on:** August 22, 2017, 04:58:04 PM »

Quote from: hismajesty on August 22, 2017, 02:23:12 PM

What we flat earthers do not have an explanation for is a LUNAR eclipse. There is possibly a dark body in the sky. Or it is simply in the nature of the moon to do this every so often.

So what exactly would the dark body in the sky be?
It is simply the nature of the moon to do what every so often.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #23 on:** August 22, 2017, 06:02:32 PM »

Quote from: happenby on August 22, 2017, 02:06:04 AM

The geocentrism model has NEVER included a globe. NASA claims the globe JETS around the sun at 67,000 mph, obviously just ONE of their myths. Orbiting the galaxy is another NASA lie. NASA's Big Bang is another lie. NASA's globe is a lie! NASA's official line is earth travels 4 directions at 4 different speeds ALL AT THE SAME TIME, another lie. I can name 100 Catholic books that are not scriptural, but that doesn't mean they aren't true. The sun and moon measure quite close in size, and certainly not the thousands of miles different in size NASA claims, nor the ridiculous distances. As if my lil' ol' camera can picture some heavenly body 1,000,000 miles away. SMH. Keep em comin' Neil, its not over till the fat lady sings...and I can't hear you.

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Wrong, wrong, wrong. You're very good at being consistently wrong.
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At least you're consistent! HAHAHA
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The shadow of the moon traveling across the USA yesterday is proof positive that the shadow moved at over 1,000 miles per hour. You can watch the progress of it real time, and it happened just as it was anticipated, to the very minute.
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The speed of the shadow moved at about 1300 mph, but anyone watching the image of the sun from their place on earth could see a static image that appeared not to be moving at all. The sun was there, a big bright circle, with a "bite" taken out of it by the encroaching moon. It was a stable image, not a moving image, just like the small hand on a clock appears not to be moving, even though it in fact is moving.
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So while we know that celestial bodies are moving at great speeds, all the while they appear to be standing still. For the mind of a simpleton, or someone bent on promoting a myth, this might be hard to understand, but when you don't WANT to understand, you make it impossible for yourself.
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So go ahead and make yourself immune to understanding. It's your choice, and a willful one.
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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #24 on:** August 22, 2017, 06:20:55 PM »

Quote from: hismajesty on August 22, 2017, 02:23:12 PM

The sun and the moon are most likely the same size. This makes a SOLAR eclipse easily explained when you think about it. The moon goes in front of the sun.

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The sun and moon can be measured very simply, and they are definitely not the "same size."
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From your (erroneous) perspective, the moon "goes in front of the sun" but if they're the same size and therefore the same distance away, they would be smashing into each other, which they never do, or the sun would at least sometimes go between the moon and the earth. But it never does that. So your model falls on that basis alone, even without measuring the size of moon and sun.
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What we flat earthers do not have an explanation for is a LUNAR eclipse. There is possibly a dark body in the sky. Or it is simply in the nature of the moon to do this every so often.

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The dark body in the sky is the earth. And it's not flat. It is spheroid, and it casts a round shadow on the moon, every time, further evidence that the earth is not "flat," as you keep saying against all the evidence.
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You can have all your "fun" all over again in January, then, when the moon predictably moves through the round shadow of the spheroid earth, which is by the way, something no flat-earther can predict because flat-earthers as you say, have no idea what causes a lunar eclipse. At least you're honest enough to admit your ignorance.
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In any case, all the self complacent cynics wasting space on this forum should eat some humble pie when they realise they can't explain the apparition of objects which should be beyond the horizon. There is no curve folks. Mock us all you want, it wont make the curve appear.

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Your garbage video has been refuted dozens of times. But you don't like to pay attention, apparently.
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Your loss. Go back to your flat-tards forum, where there are no visitors. Why would there be?
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Meg · « **Reply #25 on:** August 22, 2017, 06:31:47 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat on August 22, 2017, 06:20:55 PM

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Your loss. Go back to your flat-tards forum, where there are no visitors. Why would there be?
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Actually, there are about 3 times as many visitors on a daily basis to that forum, as there was, say, several months ago. That's still not a lot, but I think that the number of visitors will continue to grow.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #26 on:** August 22, 2017, 08:54:46 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat on August 22, 2017, 06:20:55 PM

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The sun and moon can be measured very simply, and they are definitely not the "same size."
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You missed your chance to ask an intelligent question.
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From your (erroneous) perspective, the moon "goes in front of the sun" but if they're the same size and therefore the same distance away, they would be smashing into each other, which they never do, or the sun would at least sometimes go between the moon and the earth. But it never does that. So your model falls on that basis alone, even without measuring the size of moon and sun.
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You missed another chance to ask an intelligent question.
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The dark body in the sky is the earth. And it's not flat. It is spheroid, and it casts a round shadow on the moon, every time, further evidence that the earth is not "flat," as you keep saying against all the evidence.
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Yet another chance to ask an intelligent question!
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You can have all your "fun" all over again in January, then, when the moon predictably moves through the round shadow of the spheroid earth, which is by the way, something no flat-earther can predict because flat-earthers as you say, have no idea what causes a lunar eclipse. At least you're honest enough to admit your ignorance.
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And yet ANOTHER missed opportunity!!
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Your garbage video has been refuted dozens of times. But you don't like to pay attention, apparently.
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Your loss. Go back to your flat-tards forum, where there are no visitors. Why would there be?
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So evidently the penultimate paragraph must represent something that you agree with, since you only replied to the last one.
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Speaking of which, when I visited there about 3 months ago, there were zero (0) visitors, and since you claim there are "three times as many now" as there were then, that would still be zero, because 3 x 0 = 0.

kiwiboy · « **Reply #27 on:** August 23, 2017, 03:59:29 PM »

Just to bring any newcomers up to speed:

Neil Obstat works for NASA. He has shown so in another thread on this very forum. His interest here on this forum (in terms of flat earth) is a professional one. The flat earthers here are not in it for the money.

He has not answered the video above. If he did, then he won't mind simply copying an pasting his answers. But he is too embarressed to do that, because he knows he will be exposed.

He also believes in aliens, as another thread shows on this forum.

I will leave to others to judge all this...

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #28 on:** August 23, 2017, 04:28:32 PM »

Quote from: kiwiboy on August 23, 2017, 03:59:29 PM

Just to bring any newcomers up to speed:

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Correction: you ARE the newcomer. So it's the newcomer leading the newcomers, IOW the blind leading the blind, and you both fall into the pit.
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Neil Obstat works for NASA. He has shown so in another thread on this very forum. His interest here on this forum (in terms of flat earth) is a professional one. The flat earthers here are not in it for the money.

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Are you self-satisfied being a liar?
Do you wake up in the morning hoping to perpetrate more lies today?
If you're Catholic, you ought to have no problem in Confession, with such a long list, that is, until your confessor realizes that you're not sorry and have no intention to stop lying, in which case you won't be given absolution. But even if he doesn't realize it, your confession will be invalid because you have no remorse and no firm purpose of amendment. But you're probably not Catholic, so then you'd have a whole different level of things to worry about, besides your conspicuous error of flat-earthism.
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He has not answered the video above. If he did, then he won't mind simply copying an pasting his answers. But he is too embarressed to do that, because he knows he will be exposed.

He also believes in aliens, as another thread shows on this forum.

I will leave to others to judge all this...

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Wrong again. (So what else is new?)
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I answered the video above several times, in great detail, but you were not a member yet, since you only recently came over to CI from flat-earth-tards. You ought to just go back there because without your help they won't get any posts. HAHAHA
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I have never said that I "believe in aliens." I posted a thread describing coverage of a recent find in South America for the edification of the readers, because the MSM isn't covering it. I have no idea if it's fake or what, but it looked interesting. I could just as well accuse you of devil worship or necromancy or anything else, but correctly identifying your lying is a slam dunk. You, kiwiboy are a liar. Plain and simple.
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Other flat-earthers at least give the appearance of trying to be truthful, but you are proud to lie and lie and lie again.
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Shame on you.
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DZ PLEASE · « **Reply #29 on:** August 23, 2017, 04:35:46 PM »

If there aren't any aliens then why are so many people getting butt-hurt over all the Hajjis and Joses?

Quote from: Neil Obstat on August 23, 2017, 04:28:32 PM

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Correction: you ARE the newcomer. So it's the newcomer leading the newcomers, IOW the blind leading the blind, and you both fall into the pit.
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Are you self-satisfied being a liar?
Do you wake up in the morning hoping to perpetrate more lies today?
If you're Catholic, you ought to have no problem in Confession, with such a long list, that is, until your confessor realizes that you're not sorry and have no intention to stop lying, in which case you won't be given absolution. But even if he doesn't realize it, your confession will be invalid because you have no remorse and no firm purpose of amendment. But you're probably not Catholic, so then you'd have a whole different level of things to worry about, besides your conspicuous error of flat-earthism.
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Wrong again. (So what else is new?)
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I answered the video above several times, in great detail, but you were not a member yet, since you only recently came over to CI from flat-earth-tards. You ought to just go back there because without your help they won't get any posts. HAHAHA
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I have never said that I "believe in aliens." I posted a thread describing coverage of a recent find in South America for the edification of the readers, because the MSM isn't covering it. I have no idea if it's fake or what, but it looked interesting. I could just as well accuse you of devil worship or necromancy or anything else, but correctly identifying your lying is a slam dunk. You, kiwiboy are a liar. Plain and simple.
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Other flat-earthers at least give the appearance of trying to be truthful, but you are proud to lie and lie and lie again.
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Shame on you.
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