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Title: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: josefamenendez on April 01, 2022, 08:51:55 PM
Let us prepare our souls for the well-deserved chastisement that is on our doorstep.

Jesus Christ, Son of the Living God, have mercy on me a sinner.



https://www.liveaction.org/news/infant-bodies-infanticide-attempted-abortions/
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: DigitalLogos on April 01, 2022, 08:57:37 PM
It is difficult to describe just how I am feeling seeing those images...especially when our third will be born within the next 5-6 weeks...

All I can say is, may God's will be done.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Knight Templar on April 01, 2022, 09:01:52 PM
Day of wrath! O day of mourning!
See fulfilled the prophets' warning,
Heaven and earth in ashes burning!
Oh, what fear man's bosom rendeth,
When from heaven the Judge descendeth,
On whose sentence all dependeth.
Wondrous sound the trumpet flingeth;
Through earth's sepulchres it ringeth;
All before the throne it bringeth.
Death is struck, and nature quaking,
All creation is awaking,
To its Judge an answer making.
Lo, the book, exactly worded,
Wherein all hath been recorded,
Thence shall judgement be awarded.
When the Judge his seat attaineth,
And each hidden deed arraigneth,
Nothing unavenged remaineth.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on April 01, 2022, 10:44:47 PM
How did it ever come to this?   

All we can do is ask God to protect all babies...

Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Donachie on April 02, 2022, 12:31:24 AM
I didn't look at the pictures. But I would say something that's already known to people who understand a little of what's going on. The emancipated Jews (going back to the French Revolution for the context) more than any other group are behind abortion and the profit from it. Chuck Schumer's a pushy obnoxious advocate for "abortion rights" up to birth, etc. (((Nancy Peℓσѕι))) a marrano says abortion or the abortion rights are "sacred".

Of course, there is Satanism that's involved with it too, and the founder of the Church of Satan in the USA was the Jew Anton LaVey, etc. Some historians may trace Satanism on a general "modern" level to 17th century France and Catherine Dehayes (la Voison) and Etienne Guiborg, since they're sometimes credited as the first people to organize black masses. However, Jews have been doing ritual murders and desecrating hosts before that time, etc. The USA is run by Jews and Freemasons and supports "Israel" which is a tricky center of world communism and which supports Jews and Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ. It's a murderous and ruthless syllogism. A then B then C. It seems that unless the Freemasonic and Jєωιѕн oligarchy is run out of DC none of this is going to stop.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on April 02, 2022, 12:44:45 AM
“All the evils in the world is because of lukewarm Catholics.  St Pope Pius V.



We must repent of our own sins.  Sinners must be rebuked.  We must pray, fast and ask for God’s help and mercy. 

Abortion and sodomy used to be illegal. Catholics made mortal sin law of the land.  

Lukewarm Catholics allowed God to be replaced with satan.     

 

Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Donachie on April 02, 2022, 01:48:48 AM
“All the evils in the world are because of lukewarm Catholics".  St Pope Pius V.



  

 

Peace be with you, and I don't know much about St. Pius V, but I find this statement "ridiculous". It's a form of exaggeration, which can be okay for rhetoric, but analytically it's poor and not very good pastoral work, imo. Where does this quote come from?

Lukewarm Catholics don't run international credit and finance operations on a massive scale. Jews do. The big circle of money power is behind "abortion rights" and so forth; and it's what has taken the advantageous position, with such pro-active intentions, to form the public mind. Lukewarm Catholics don't run credit, commerce, and collections. Lukewarm Catholics didn't reduce the Church from the Papal States to Vatican City, less than an average 18 hole golf course. The Freemason and Jews did.

If all the lukewarm Catholics go to Hell, well, that's one thing, but I doubt they'll go as deep as the Jews, Freemasons, Satanists, and communists, etc.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on April 02, 2022, 02:28:01 AM
Peace to you as well.


(“I don't know much about St. Pius V, but I find this statement "ridiculous".”  )

St Pope Pius V did say this.   This wouldn’t be happening if he was Pope today.  
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: josefamenendez on April 02, 2022, 08:40:38 AM
https://www.cal-catholic.com/pro-lifers-expose-large-fetal-organ-bank-at-u-of-washington/

Most of the major universities are involved in the infant butchery, much like U of Pitt. I'm sure it's all government funded "science". This is from March 9
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Ladislaus on April 02, 2022, 08:53:54 AM
God should just destroy this world as He did at the Flood.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: josefamenendez on April 02, 2022, 09:40:53 AM
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pro-lifers-raided-charged-and-face-11-years-in-jail-for-blocking-access-to-infamous-dc-abortion-mill/

An old friend (74 years old- Joan Andrews Bell) arrested 3 days ago for a rescue done in 2020 in DC.
I can't help but think that the Feds arrested these people 2 years after the fact to somehow  "diffuse" the horrific pictures of the dead baby bodies online now. Bait and switch.

They have to make these sweet, holy people  "terrorists" to distract from the barbaric treachery of satanic government protected murder.

Apparently the FEDS and the Justice Department can spend millions "investigating" non-violent elderly prolifers who defend babies and then storm their homes when they are no flight risk, but Hunter can continue raping children and laundering cнιℓd тrαffιcking money in Ukraine.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: PAT317 on April 02, 2022, 01:27:31 PM
Peace be with you, and I don't know much about St. Pius V, but I find this statement "ridiculous". It's a form of exaggeration, which can be okay for rhetoric, but analytically it's poor and not very good pastoral work, imo. Where does this quote come from?

Lukewarm Catholics don't run international credit and finance operations on a massive scale. Jєωs do. The big circle of money power is behind "abortion rights" and so forth; and it's what has taken the advantageous position, with such pro-active intentions, to form the public mind. Lukewarm Catholics don't run credit, commerce, and collections. Lukewarm Catholics didn't reduce the Church from the Papal States to Vatican City, less than an average 18 hole golf course. The Freemason and Jєωs did.

If all the lukewarm Catholics go to Hell, well, that's one thing, but I doubt they'll go as deep as the Jєωs, Freemasons, Satanists, and communists, etc.

I don't know about the authenticity of the quote attributed to Pope St. Pius V, but this one by Pope St. Pius X seems to be authentic: 


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The saintly Pope [Pius X] spoke of the heroism of St. Joan and contrasted it with the timidity of so many Catholics in our day: "In our time more than ever before, the chief strength of the wicked lies in the cowardice and weakness of good men.  ... All the strength of Satan's reign is due to the easy-going weakness of Catholics.  Oh! if I might ask the Divine Redeemer, as the prophet Zachary did in spirit: What are these wounds in the midst of Thy hands? The answer would not be doubtful: With these was I wounded in the house of them that loved Me. I was wounded by My friends, who did nothing to defend Me, and who, on every occasion, made themselves the accomplices of My adversaries. And to this reproach, which can be levelled at the weak and timid Catholics of all countries..."


I think the point of such quotes is that those evil men you mention wouldn't be able to do what they do if Catholics were being as fervent as they should be. I believe Bp. Williamson has said that Tertullian or some early member of the Church said that the power of the Church vs. that of the Swedish are as if on the balances of a scale:  The more the one increases, the more the other decreases.  And every Catholic should see how obvious it is that the fervor of Catholic people drastically affects the strength of the Church.  We would never have had the disaster of the last 60 years+ if the majority of Catholics were striving to become saints. 


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I know thy works, that thou art neither cold, nor hot.   [15] (http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=73&ch=3&l=15-#x) I would thou wert cold, or hot.
[16] (http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=73&ch=3&l=16-#x) But because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold, nor hot, I will begin to vomit thee out of my mouth.
[Apoc. 3]


Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: josefamenendez on April 02, 2022, 02:21:13 PM
[color=var(--post_title_typography-color)]FBI Arrests My Friends After Discovering They Found Full-Term Murdered Babies[/color]
[color=var(--body_typography-color)]I just wrote in the [color=var(--link_color)]Life Section (https://padreperegrino.org/2022/03/pro-lifers-arrested-by-fbi-with-drawn-guns/)[/url] of my blog about my friends in the pro-life movement who were taken with drawn guns by the FBI for a peaceful sit-in (aka “rescue”) at an abortion center in Washington DC in 2020 where they were arrested.  But as these events of late March 2022 have now exploded into mainstream media, I’m putting an updated story on my front page here.[/font][/size][/color]

The above footage on YouTube is from an FBI raid against pro-lifers just a couple days ago (March 2022.)  But if the pro-life rescue (sit-in) took place in 2020, why did the FBI wait until 2022 to raid their homes?
[color=var(--link_color)]PAAU (http://www.paaunow.org/)[/url] (Progressive Anti-Abortion Uprising) explains what happened this past week in Washington DC to them:  “Prior to the arrest, one of the defendants privately arranged for the Metropolitan Washington D.C. Police homicide unit to pick up five recently discovered late-term aborted babies for forensic examination. Their late gestational ages as well as their apparent sustained injuries potentially show violations of the Partial Birth Abortion Act as well as the Born Alive Infants Protection Act which are federal crimes.”[/font][/size][/color]
[color=var(--link_color)]Live Action (https://www.liveaction.org/news/infant-bodies-infanticide-attempted-abortions/)[/url] has the extremely graphic pictures of these late-term victims of homicide.[/font][/size][/color]
(https://padreperegrino.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/cooley1.jpg)
Could their reporting of infanticide be the entire motive for a raid happening nearly two years after their sit-in at an abortion center?  Notice the above report says the babies obtained in Washington DC were “possibly live-birth abortions.”  In fact, I was texted pictures of these killed-children last week before any of this issue was in pro-life news or national media.  I can say that these are the largest babies killed that I have ever seen pictures of.  I really am not sure if it’s abortion or infanticide, which clearly explains the urgency of the left to pin this on pro-lifers who were turning in bodies who died by possible infanticide.  They are too gruesome to link here.
And this explains the preposterous take of NBC News of Washington DC who writes:  “Officers initially went to [Lauren] Handy’s home after receiving a tip about potential bio-hazard material at the house.”  In other words, the mainstream media is implying that this creepy keeping-of-children’s-bodies should be pinned on the very people who belew the whistle on extremely-late term abortions or infanticide!
PAAU writes the truth of the babies they found:
The Founder and Executive Director of Progressive Anti-Abortion Uprising (PAAU) Terrisa Bukovinac said “We are aware that the Metropolitan Police Department has stated they do not believe a crime has been committed against these babies under D.C. law. However, the laws in question are federal laws enforced by the U.S. Department of Justice.”
The whistleblowers who received the fetuses, and the defendants arrested by the FBI, are connected. They will be present at the press conference.
A Funeral Mass and “naming ceremony” was offered for the deceased babies – with the babies present, in which each child was named.
At Tuesday’s press conference the following questions will be answered:
[/color]





(337) FBI arrest anti-abortion activist at gunpoint at his home at night - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erIQTJ0dZWI)








Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: epiphany on April 02, 2022, 02:35:04 PM
Let us prepare our souls for the well-deserved chastisement that is on our doorstep.

Jesus Christ, Son of the Living God, have mercy on me a sinner.



https://www.liveaction.org/news/infant-bodies-infanticide-attempted-abortions/
Why post these photos on a Catholic website, where all Catholics are required to be prolife?  I know such photos work well to try to open the eyes of liberals and ignorant, but do we really need them here?
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: josefamenendez on April 02, 2022, 03:26:44 PM
Why post these photos on a Catholic website, where all Catholics are required to be prolife?  I know such photos work well to try to open the eyes of liberals and ignorant, but do we really need them here?
Yes- we are all responsible for this by our inaction.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: DigitalLogos on April 02, 2022, 03:33:31 PM
Why post these photos on a Catholic website, where all Catholics are required to be prolife?  I know such photos work well to try to open the eyes of liberals and ignorant, but do we really need them here?
Sometimes it's necessary to stir up people's zeal by showing them the horrors they're fighting. Otherwise, it's easy for the problem to become remote and out of mind.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: epiphany on April 02, 2022, 04:16:55 PM
Sometimes it's necessary to stir up people's zeal by showing them the horrors they're fighting. Otherwise, it's easy for the problem to become remote and out of mind.
Thank you for the explanation.
I guess my zeal has never waned, fir such pictures make me vomit.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Ladislaus on April 02, 2022, 04:19:48 PM
Why post these photos on a Catholic website, where all Catholics are required to be prolife?  I know such photos work well to try to open the eyes of liberals and ignorant, but do we really need them here?

Well, OP didn't post the pictures, just a link, and warned everyone of the content ("Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies...")
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: DigitalLogos on April 02, 2022, 04:22:53 PM
Thank you for the explanation.
I guess my zeal has never waned, fir such pictures make me vomit.
They fill me with violent rage, to be honest.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Kazimierz on April 02, 2022, 04:55:18 PM
God should just destroy this world as He did at the Flood.
We are indeed overdo. The Chastisement cannot come soon enough. 
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Donachie on April 02, 2022, 05:06:31 PM
https://www.cal-catholic.com/pro-lifers-expose-large-fetal-organ-bank-at-u-of-washington/

Most of the major universities are involved in the infant butchery, much like U of Pitt. I'm sure it's all government funded "science". This is from March 9
The Marxist universities are hoarding billions in wealth. NY Times: Big University Endowments Make Billions in Returns in a Bumper Year.

https://www.realhistorychan.com/anyt-10182021.html

It's a ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic oligarchy policy to be diabolical. 
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: songbird on April 02, 2022, 05:32:47 PM
Anyone who comes under the dioceses, like FSSP indult just remember this, dioceses $$$ gives to Planned Parenthood in the federal grant programs under Catholic Charities.  Dioceses has no life to give on the altar, or in your arms.  Beware of pro-life organizations that support dioceses, the counterfeit institute.  I caught Human Life international under Judie Brown stating named bishops that were pro-life in the dioceses!  No way!  It was Terry Randall that brought this to my attention.

Myth is, some clergy in the New Order are good and some are not,  Not true.  All dioceses give to Planned Parenthood.  And if you have a Fry's grocery store around, do not shop there.  They give to abortion through the program under catholic charities, Healthy Mothers Healthy Babies.



Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: epiphany on April 03, 2022, 07:59:30 AM
Anyone who comes under the dioceses, like FSSP indult just remember this, dioceses $$$ gives to Planned Parenthood in the federal grant programs under Catholic Charities.  Dioceses has no life to give on the altar, or in your arms.  Beware of pro-life organizations that support dioceses, the counterfeit institute.  I caught Human Life international under Judie Brown stating named bishops that were pro-life in the dioceses!  No way!  It was Terry Randall that brought this to my attention.

Myth is, some clergy in the New Order are good and some are not,  Not true.  All dioceses give to Planned Parenthood.  And if you have a Fry's grocery store around, do not shop there.  They give to abortion through the program under catholic charities, Healthy Mothers Healthy Babies.
Thank you for this.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Ladislaus on April 03, 2022, 10:30:24 AM
I don’t know if I this is true.  Catholic Charities was once accused of indirectly funding contraception, and they attempted to refute it.  I don’t remember if it was convincing.  They were sued by ACLU a few years ago for refusing to provide abortions.  But I’ve never heard of any links to PP.  Do you have a link?
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Donachie on April 06, 2022, 01:01:16 PM
COLORADO'S Jєωιѕн RUSSIAN ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ GOVERNOR JARED POLIS LEGALIZES ABORTION UP UNTIL BIRTH

https://www.bitchute.com/video/LemA5Z8h9oB4/

There's weird stuff on Bitchute, like news about a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ cannibal who has a Facebook page. That's alright with billionaire Zuckerberg (his father I think was an average dentist and Zucky's into the billions even like Epstein -- a high school math teacher -- was). I think Jєωιѕн ritual murder and blasphemy and cursing accursedness has been real besides the rumored Satanic weirdness of DC and Hollywood and the big scale markets today. Kabbalah is common to Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and Satanism.

If the USA wants to be Satanic, they and the diabolical cooperative are already there and a little over the threshold imo. Liberalism seals the deal, because everybody's equal and has got to be somewhere. Basic street corner chaos or immoralities and common murder, combined with the zillions of dollars International Jewry has at advantage through control of credit, commerce, collections, leaves the USA in its funny Satanic position. 
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: josefamenendez on April 06, 2022, 02:08:19 PM
Press conference on the aborted babies found.

Missy Smith reported that the "bio-medical waste company" (Curtis Bay energy) that was disposing of the aborted babies were actually using them as fuel to create electricity in the city of Baltimore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8pIKMa0ZIw
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Donachie on April 06, 2022, 02:45:48 PM
Alex Jones or Bill Hicks said in one of his rants that the Satanists around DC use dead babies in basement boxing matches or so forth. I guess it's like "fight club". I didn't watch the whole "Info Wars" broadcast.

In the movie "Fight Club", "Maria Singer", Helena Bonham Carter, says she wants to have somebody's abortion. If people have heard of "Frazzle Drip", I'm beginning to believe it's true.

As Pat Buchanan said, "DC is Israeli occupied territory", which will have to include some Kabbalah, Satanism, and witchcraft, as well as all that money, etc.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: songbird on April 06, 2022, 04:55:22 PM
Catholic Charities: link to Planned Parenthood:   In the federal grants of Domestic Violence, Healthy Mother Healthy Babies, St. Joes Hospital in Phoenix, handbook gives pages on how to submit paperwork for abortion.  Stephanie Block wrote 4 books on all the connections and organizations, Catholic Relief  and it is hidden in Virginia Piper group.  Oh, it is there!!  The New Order has been like this for a very long time.  And think, even Frank Pavone is new order.  He knows!
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: songbird on April 06, 2022, 05:00:21 PM
This is directed to Mark79:  Mark79, do you still uphold your belief that Placenta tissue used for joints, is still ok.  I did my research and it still takes a baby to donate placenta tissue and certain gestation ages of baby is better than others.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Nadir on April 06, 2022, 06:47:28 PM
This is directed to Mark79:  Mark79, do you still uphold your belief that Placenta tissue used for joints, is still ok.  I did my research and it still takes a baby to donate placenta tissue and certain gestation ages of baby is better than others.
Songbird, this is very vague. What do you mean by 'certain gestation ages of baby is better than others'? Are you implying the baby is brought to birth early in order to get placenta? Or is it collected from premature babies? Can you furnish these research findings that you have come up with? 

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 I caught Human Life international under Judie Brown stating ...
I don't believe that HLI was ever under Judie Brown.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: josefamenendez on April 06, 2022, 07:23:47 PM
https://youtu.be/RQfHNr1EmGo
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: songbird on April 06, 2022, 07:57:00 PM
Mark 
79 replied to songbird, that placenta fetal cells injections were ok, for joints.  I disagree, and gave to Mark79 links with articles saying that different stages of of a baby, such as 3 months in womb were best for harvesting and he still said it was ok!
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: songbird on April 06, 2022, 08:01:32 PM
I recall it was Human Life International, and I do believe it was her, and that was a long time ago.  It is true, that these pro-life groups and Lifesite.news can be quoted for saying how pro-life new order bishops are.  I totally disagree.  As long as the new order dioceses take on catholic charities, they ARE in the know that they support more than abortion for the agenda of the federal gov't.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: songbird on April 06, 2022, 08:04:37 PM
One of Stephanie Block's book is titled: Change Agents: Alinskyian organizing among religious bodies Volume 3.  I bought 3 of her books; i am lead to believe she has 5 books.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: songbird on April 06, 2022, 08:15:33 PM
Judie Brown, American Life League, excuse me. It was her, that spoke highly of Bishop Olmsted of the Phoenix Dioceses when he first came on. That was 20 years?  I did contact her to tell her, all dioceses take on catholic charities and Phoenix most certainly did.  He knows and they all know they serve the agenda of the federal gov't.  I can not give to her group as long as they too, support those who support abortion.  my emails were kicked back.  I mailed her docuмents to prove my point.  I was reading federal grants in the 90's under Governor Mecham.  And Lifesite.news in one of their articles, states the words of Judie Brown, supporting the new very pro-life Bishop. I told Lifesite.news the same thing, and they would not allow me to give replies.  I call that a wake up call!
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Nadir on April 06, 2022, 08:30:53 PM
Mark
79 replied to songbird, that placenta fetal cells injections were ok, for joints.  I disagree, and gave to Mark79 links with articles saying that different stages of of a baby, such as 3 months in womb were best for harvesting and he still said it was ok!
So where are the links that illustrates your claim, both about the placental issue and Mark’s alledged statement? When you make such claims you need to back them up with evidence.

I see you have corrected yourself about Human Life International being “under Judie Brown”. It is important to be more careful and to provide evidence when you make accusations.
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: epiphany on April 06, 2022, 09:21:01 PM
So where are the links that illustrates your claim, both about the placental issue and Mark’s alledged statement? When you make such claims you need to back them up with evidence.

I see you have corrected yourself about Human Life International being “under Judie Brown”. It is important to be more careful and to provide evidence when you make accusations.
All too common on cathinfo
Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Mark 79 on April 06, 2022, 10:24:36 PM

Mark
79 replied to songbird, that placenta fetal [emphasis added] cells injections were ok, for joints.  I disagree, and gave to Mark79 links with articles saying that different stages of of a baby, such as 3 months in womb were best for harvesting and he still said it was ok!

"fetal" = baby

"placental" = afterbirth, not baby

"placenta fetal" is a really stupid oxymoron equivalent to "not baby/baby."

I have never ever anywhere to anyone said harvesting parts from 3 month old babies is acceptable.

I have never ever anywhere to anyone said harvesting placentas from 3 month in utero babies is acceptable. Damaging the placenta at that gestational age would likely damage the baby.

In no way shape or form do I advocate anything remotely as you said.

Even if stem cells harvested at 3 months are "better" (more efficacious medically), the risk to the baby is immoral and unacceptable.

Placental (not baby) stem cells harvested from the afterbirth (not baby) can be harvested without any harm to full-term babies. Doctors used to throw away the afterbirth. Now doctors use the tissues from the afterbirth to good effect—not using only stem cells, but even using amniotic membranes, umbilical cord blood, Wharton's Jelly, stromal tissue, etc.

Reputable tissue banks use only placentas from carefully screened (medically and socially, no diseases, no crack whores) women having repeat C-sections. Though there was a brief period in the 90's when it was trendy to try to have a vaginal delivery after a first C-section, that fad justifiably passed quickly (concern for uterine rupture during vaginal delivery after a previous C-section). Currently the rule of thumb is "once a C-section, always a C-section." Because the second C-section is scheduled, it is much easier to arrange business hours care of the placental tissue than it is for an emergency C-section in the middle of the night.

If you are going to make claims about what I have said, I'd really appreciate it if you'd get it right.


Title: Re: Horrifying pictures of full term Aborted Babies recently obtained
Post by: Mark 79 on April 07, 2022, 11:48:44 AM
@songbird

I see that you logged in about two hours after I PM'd you and made the post immediately above.  I see that you also logged in within the hour of this post, but not a peep from you.

If I had wrongly accused you, I would have apologized and retracted the accusation within minutes of learning my error.

Essentially you accused me of advocating harvesting of tissue from babies in the womb. I did not, do not, and never will advocate such heinous sin.

Your post makes clear that you did not understand the distinction between what is a baby and what is not a baby (the afterbirth). Your post makes clear that you did not understand the distinction between ante-partun (before birth) and post-partum (after the baby is delivered/born) harvesting of placental (afterbirth, not baby) tissue.

In the future, if you decide you need to accuse me of heinous sin, please be so kind as to confirm the details before you post such damaging accusations.