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Homeschooling families cant teach ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is sinful
« on: February 24, 2012, 08:42:46 PM »
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  • EDMONTON, Alberta, February 23, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Under Alberta’s new Education Act, homeschoolers and faith-based schools will not be permitted to teach that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ acts are sinful as part of their academic program, says the spokesperson for Education Minister Thomas Lukaszuk.

    “Whatever the nature of schooling – homeschool, private school, Catholic school – we do not tolerate disrespect for differences,” Donna McColl, Lukaszuk’s assistant director of communications, told LifeSiteNews on Wednesday evening.

    “You can affirm the family’s ideology in your family life, you just can’t do it as part of your educational study and instruction,” she added.

    Reacting to the remarks, Paul Faris of the Home School Legal Defence Association said the Ministry of Education is “clearly signaling that they are in fact planning to violate the private conversations families have in their own homes.”

    “A government that seeks that sort of control over our personal lives should be feared and opposed,” he added.

    The HSLDA and other homeschooling groups warned this week that the new Alberta Education Act, which was re-tabled by Alison Redford’s Progressive Conservative government on Feb. 14th to replace the existing School Act, threatens to mandate “diversity” education in all schools, including home schools.

    Section 16 of the new legislation restates the current School Act’s requirement that schools “reflect the diverse nature” of Alberta in their curriculum, but it adds that they must also “honour and respect” the controversial Alberta Human Rights Act that has been used to target Christians with traditional beliefs on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity. ‘School’ is defined to include homeschoolers and private schools in addition to publicly funded school boards.

    McColl emphasized that homeschoolers were already included in the current definition of ‘school’ in the School Act, going back to 1988 or longer. And Section 16, she said, “is specifically with regards to programs, courses, and instructional materials.”

    According to McColl, Christian homeschooling families can continue to impart Biblical teachings on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in their homes, “as long as it’s not part of their academic program of studies and instructional materials.”

    “What they want to do about their ideology elsewhere, that’s their family business. But a fundamental nature of our society is to respect diversity,” she added.

    Pressed about what the precise distinction is between homeschoolers’ instruction and their family life, McColl said the question involved “real nuances” and she would have to get back with specifics.

    But in a second interview Wednesday evening, McColl said the government “won’t speculate” about particular examples, and explained that she had not yet gotten a “straight answer” on what exactly constitutes “disrespect.” She did say that families “can’t be hatemongering, if you will.”

    In the first interview, she justified the government’s position by pointing to Friday’s Supreme Court ruling upholding the Quebec government’s refusal to exempt families from its controversial ethics and religious culture program. That program, which aims to present the spectrum of world religions and lifestyle choices from a “neutral” stance, is required of all students, including homeschoolers.

    “Just last Friday, the Supreme Court of Canada released a unanimous decision on – now it’s S.L. v. the Commission scolare des Chênes 2012 – and that’s the same, section 16 has to apply to everyone, including home education families,” she said.

    Pro-family observers warned that the ruling risked emboldening other provincial governments in their effort to impose “diversity” programs. The last two years have seen major battles in Quebec, Ontario, British Columbia, and now Alberta over the increasing normalization of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in the schools.

    The Supreme Court’s narrow ruling did not specifically address homeschooling, however, and left the door open to further court challenges. The court argued that the Quebec family seeking the exemption had simply failed to meet the burden of proof necessary to show that their children’s participation in the course would impede the parents’ ability to raise the children in their Catholic faith.

    Patty Marler, government liaison for the Alberta Home Education Association, said she was surprised at the Ministry’s straightforwardness, and questioned how they are going to be able to draw the line between school time and family time.

    “We educate our children all the time, and that’s just the way we live. It’s a lifestyle,” she said. “Making that distinction between the times when we’re homeschooling and when we’re just living is really hard to do.”

    “Throw in the fact that I do use the Bible as part of my curriculum and now I’m very blatantly going to be teaching stuff that will be against [the human rights act],” she said.

    Marler pointed out that the issue has direct implications on how families teach their children about marriage because the Alberta Human Rights Act was amended in 2009 to define marriage as between two “persons” instead of a man and a woman. “When I read Genesis and it talks about marriage being one man in union with one woman, I am very, very clearly opposing the human rights act that says it’s one person marrying another person,” she said.

    According to Faris, the issue with McColl’s statements “isn’t about sɛҳuąƖity or anything else on the gαy issue, it’s about the government trying to control how we teach our own children in our own homes.”

    He said her comments are “particularly interesting in light of the - at the very least - misleading information that a lot of homeschoolers have been getting when they’re calling the Minister’s office, saying ‘Look, there’s no changes here. We’re not going to do anything differently’, and other things like that.”

    “The long arm of the government wants to reach into family’s homes and control what they teach to their own children in their own homes about religion, sɛҳuąƖity, and morality,” he said. “These are not the words of a government that is friendly to homeschooling or to parental freedom.”

    The Progressive Conservative government has 67 of the 83 seats in the province’s legislature, so the bill’s passage is essentially assured. But an election is imminent and the new right-wing Wildrose Alliance Party is expected to have a strong showing. A Forum Research poll last week showed the upstart party polling at 30% behind the government’s 37%.

    The Home School Legal Defence Association is calling on Alberta citizens to contact the Education Minister and their elected representatives."
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    Homeschooling families cant teach ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is sinful
    « Reply #1 on: February 24, 2012, 09:49:08 PM »
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    “Whatever the nature of schooling – homeschool, private school, Catholic school – we do not tolerate respect for differences,” Donna McColl, Lukaszuk’s assistant director of communications, told LifeSiteNews on Wednesday evening.


    Fixed it.

    What a bunch of hogwash.


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    « Reply #2 on: February 24, 2012, 10:05:02 PM »
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  • Same in some of the states. If you use the government's homeschool curriculum (I don't know why one would opt for that as it is essentially marxist propaganda from a-z), you are not allowed to teach your faith as part of curriculum.
    The communists are in the schools and churches and they will not stop until they are in every home.

    Can you imagine your children being taken away for being homeschooled and placed into a gαy foster family? We will see it.

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    Homeschooling families cant teach ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is sinful
    « Reply #3 on: February 25, 2012, 05:26:01 AM »
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    No problem, as long as they aren't forced to explicitly include teaching their children that such is good.

    That education act is pretty useless because all a mother has to do is wait until she has a moment when school is not in session, and then tell her child such acts are sinful.


    But what I think is concerning is the direction this legislation is being taken. I'm not into fear mongering, and I don't want to be a pessimist, but I don't think it would be very far off to say that Darcy's comments aren't unfounded.

    Just look at where we've come as a society in the past 60 years. Sodomite marriage would never have probably even been conjured up in the minds of most. I personally don't think another 60 years in the same direction would make this sort of persecution incredible.

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    « Reply #4 on: February 25, 2012, 06:42:27 AM »
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    EDMONTON, Alberta, February 23, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Under Alberta’s new Education Act, homeschoolers and faith-based schools will not be permitted to teach that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ acts are sinful as part of their academic program, says the spokesperson for Education Minister Thomas Lukaszuk.


    No problem, as long as they aren't forced to explicitly include teaching their children that such is good.

    That education act is pretty useless because all a mother has to do is wait until she has a moment when school is not in session, and then tell her child such acts are sinful.



    Well, sometimes a teacher's influence is greater than a parent. Some kids end in opposing their mothers and taking side with the schools and classmates.


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    « Reply #5 on: February 25, 2012, 08:05:13 AM »
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    No problem, as long as they aren't forced to explicitly include teaching their children that such is good.

    That education act is pretty useless because all a mother has to do is wait until she has a moment when school is not in session, and then tell her child such acts are sinful.


    But what I think is concerning is the direction this legislation is being taken. I'm not into fear mongering, and I don't want to be a pessimist, but I don't think it would be very far off to say that Darcy's comments aren't unfounded.

    Just look at where we've come as a society in the past 60 years. Sodomite marriage would never have probably even been conjured up in the minds of most. I personally don't think another 60 years in the same direction would make this sort of persecution incredible.


    What is really disturbing to me is that this took place in Alberta, which is out equivalent to Texas. They havn't had a Liberal Party government in decades, only Conservative, but it is very apparent that the current Conservatives there are not Conservative at all.

    What you say about this not being even thought of 60 years ago is quite true, I remember watching an old 60's TV show called Hogan's Heroes, where in one episode something to this conversation took place.

    German Guard: "Klink and Major Hochstetter are out dancing"

    British Prisoner: "You can get arrested for that, even in Germany"

    German Guard: "Not with each other!"

    Now that show is pretty liberal by our standards, so even they thought it was wrong back then.

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    « Reply #6 on: February 25, 2012, 10:59:47 AM »
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    EDMONTON, Alberta, February 23, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Under Alberta’s new Education Act, homeschoolers and faith-based schools will not be permitted to teach that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ acts are sinful as part of their academic program, says the spokesperson for Education Minister Thomas Lukaszuk.


    No problem, as long as they aren't forced to explicitly include teaching their children that such is good.

    That education act is pretty useless because all a mother has to do is wait until she has a moment when school is not in session, and then tell her child such acts are sinful.


    That isn't necessarily the point, though. When the government starts telling parents what they can and can't teach to their children, that waves a big red flag. We'll start seeing it here soon enough.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #7 on: February 27, 2012, 10:39:35 AM »
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    Can you imagine your children being taken away for being homeschooled and placed into a gαy foster family


    I could actually see this happen in states like California.


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    « Reply #8 on: February 28, 2012, 11:41:18 AM »
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    Under Alberta’s new Education Act, homeschoolers and faith-based schools will not be permitted to teach that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ acts are sinful as part of their academic program, says the spokesperson for Education Minister Thomas Lukaszuk.


    This is why one should "lay low" in homeschooling. What kind of "academic program," even in a private school, would deal with this question? If it's not part of the program, it needn't be revealed to the state. They should be given as little information (ammunition) as possible.

    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil