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h0Ɩ0cαųst: What Americans did to the Germans
« on: July 29, 2019, 09:39:52 AM »
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  •  h0Ɩ0cαųst: What Americans did to Germans
    Posted: 28 Jul 2019 11:49 PM PDT


    DAILYKENN.com -- Every aspect of history must be reviewed from a skeptic's perspective. There can be no sacred cows that are outside the reach of scrutiny. Where revisions are mandated, they must be made. 


    Unfortunately, humans tend to write history from a perspective of confirmation bias. We view ourselves as the good guys whose wars were just and fought with patriotic zeal for the well-being of humanity. In so doing, we often gloss over our own grievous sins and those of our allies. 

    Below is an example of genuine history after it has been reviewed from a skeptic's objective perspective and revised to reflect reality.  



    From paulcraigroberts.org ▼

    Eisenhower’s Starvation Order

    By James Bacque

    Never had so many people been put in prison. The size of the Allied captures was unprecedented in all history. The Soviets took prisoner some 3.5 million Europeans, the Americans about 6.1 million, the British about 2.4 million, the Canadians about 300,000, the French around 200,000. Uncounted millions of Japanese entered American captivity in 1945, plus about 640,000 entering Soviet captivity.

    As soon as Germany surrendered on 8 May 1945, the American Military Governor, General Eisenhower, sent out an “urgent courier” throughout the huge area that he commanded, making it a crime punishable by death for German civilians to feed prisoners. It was even a death-penalty crime to gather food together in one place to take it to prisoners … The order was sent in German to the provincial governments, ordering them to distribute it immediately to local governments. Copies of the orders were discovered recently in several villages near the Rhine … The message [which Bacque reproduces] reads in part: “… under no circuмstances may food supplies be assembled among the local inhabitants in order to deliver them to the prisoners of war. Those who violate this command and nevertheless try to circuмvent this blockade to allow something to come to the prisoners place themselves in danger of being shot….”

    Eisenhower’s order was also posted in English, German and Polish on the bulletin board of Military Government Headquarters in Bavaria, signed by the Chief of Staff of the Military Governor of Bavaria. Later it was posted in Polish in Straubing and Regensburg, where there were many Polish guard companies at nearby camps. One US Army officer who read the posted order in May 1945 has written that it was “the intention of Army command regarding the German POW camps in the US Zone from May 1945 through the end of 1947 to exterminate as many POWs as the traffic would bear without international scrutiny.”

    … The [American] army’s policy was to starve [German] prisoners, according to several American soldiers who were there. Martin Brech, retired professor of philosophy at Mercy college in New York, who was a guard at Andernach in 1945, has said that he was told by an officer that “it is our policy that these men not be fed.” The 50,000 to 60,000 men in Andernach were starving, living with no shelter in holes in the ground, trying to nourish themselves on grass. When Brech smuggled bread to them through the wire, he was ordered to stop by an officer. Later, Brech sneaked more food to them, was caught, and told by the same officer, “If you do that again, you’ll be shot.” Brech saw bodies go out of the camp “by the truckload” but he was never told how many there were, where they were buried, or how.

    … The prisoner Paul Schmitt was shot in the American camp at Bretzenheim after coming close to the wire to see his wife and young son who were bringing him a basket of food. The French followed suit: Agnes Spira was shot by French guards at Dietersheim in July 1945 for taking food to prisoners. The memorial to her in nearby Buedesheim, written by one of her chidren, reads: “On the 31st of July 1945, my mother was suddenly and unexpectedly torn from me because of her good deed toward the imprisoned soldiers.” The entry in the Catholic church register says simply: “A tragic demise, shot in Dietersheim on 31.07.1945. Buried on 03.08.1945.” Martin Brech watched in amazement as one officer at Andernach stood on a hillside firing shots towards German women running away from him in the valley below.

    The prisoner Hans Scharf … was watching as a German woman with her two children came towards an American guard in the camp at Bad Kreuznach, carrying a wine bottle. She asked the guard to give the bottle to her husband, who was just inside the wire. The guard upended the bottle into his own mouth, and when it was empty, threw it on the ground and killed the prisoner with five shots.

    ….Many prisoners and German civilians saw the American guards burn the food brought by civilian women. One former prisoner described it recently: “At first, the women from the nearby town brought food into the camp. The American soldiers took everything away from the women, threw it in a heap and poured gasoline [benzine] over it and burned it.” Eisenhower himself ordered that the food be destroyed, according to the writer Karl Vogel, who was the German camp commander appointed by the Americans in Camp 8 at Garmisch-Partenkirchen. Although the prisoners were getting only 800 calories per day, the Americans were destroying food outside the camp gate.

    James Bacque, Crimes and Mercies: The Fate of German Civilians Under Allied Occupation, 1944-1950, pp. 41-45, 94-95.
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    Re: h0Ɩ0cαųst: What Americans did to the Germans
    « Reply #1 on: July 29, 2019, 10:38:53 AM »
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  • Let's not denigrate the holy term of h0Ɩ0cαųst as the Jєωs do, Our Lord Jesus Christ IS THE h0Ɩ0cαųst to God.

    That said, this shows that there are more low lifes and cowards in every country, than noble souls. These orders were carried out by the entire combined military forces of USA, France, Britain, and to be expected, USSR. The human race is dung.
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    Re: h0Ɩ0cαųst: What Americans did to the Germans
    « Reply #2 on: July 29, 2019, 06:50:29 PM »
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  • The human race is dung.
    No, I would rather think they are flies who eat dung.
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    Re: h0Ɩ0cαųst: What Americans did to the Germans
    « Reply #3 on: August 15, 2019, 06:23:15 AM »
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  • The war is over,. Thats what happen  when you lose.  

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    Re: h0Ɩ0cαųst: What Americans did to the Germans
    « Reply #4 on: August 15, 2019, 12:18:00 PM »
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  • No, most Americans do not know about atrocities committed by the Allies or our own government. That’s why one should study history for himself.  War is a punishment for sin.  It all could have been avoided had the Popes obeyed Our Lady and consecrated Russia.  But that didn’t happen, and all we can expect is a repeat on an infinitely worse scale.  Has humanity in general become better, worse, or remained the same since the end of WWII?  It doesn’t take a rocket scientist....
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    Re: h0Ɩ0cαųst: What Americans did to the Germans
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  • The Morgenthau Plan • Eisenhower’s Death Camps • “A Forgotten Genocide”
    9-15 Million Germans Killed 1945 – 1953 after WW2
     
     
    Eisenhower's Rhine-Meadows Death Camps - Docuмentary
    a chronicle of atrocities ordered by “the terrible Swedish Jєω” Eisenhower


    Peace for Germany (synopsis of the book "Other Losses")
    another chronicle of atrocities ordered by “the terrible Swedish Jєω” Eisenhower

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    Re: h0Ɩ0cαųst: What Americans did to the Germans
    « Reply #6 on: August 15, 2019, 03:35:36 PM »
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  • crimes against humanity in the Jєωιѕн “good war”
     
     
    Dresden Was a Civilian Town With No Military Significance. Why Did We Burn its People?
    by Dominic Selwood, The Telegraph (Britain)
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/11410633/Dresden-was-a-civilian-town-with-no-military-significance.-Why-did-we-burn-its-people.html
     
    ... From 13 to 15 February 1945, British (and some American) heavy bombers dropped 2,400 tons of high explosives and 1,500 tons of incendiary bombs onto the ancient cathedral city of Dresden. In just a few hours, around 25,000 to 35,000 civilians were blown up or incinerated ... Churchill wrote that he wanted "absolutely devastating, exterminating attacks by very heavy bombers from this country upon the nαzι homeland". In another letter he called it "terror bombing". His aim was to demoralise the Germans to catalyse regime change  ... Records show that the first intentional "area bombing" of civilians in the Second World War took place at Monchengladbach on 11 May 1940 at Churchill's orders ...
     
    Vivid Color Film of 1943 Firebombing of Hamburg
    Feuerwehr Hamburg - Video
     
    Remarkable color film, with graphic images -- made by firefighter Hans Brunswig -- of the devastating summer 1943 bombing of Hamburg. In this ferocious aerial attack, some 3,000 British and American aircraft dropped 9,000 tons of bombs, killing 42,600 civilians and wounding 37,000. Many were burned to death or killed by poisonous carbon monoxide gas. Only about half the dead bodies could be identified. This “firestorm” bombing -- the first ever-- incinerated eight square miles of the city with flames of up to 800 degrees Celsius fanned by winds of 150 mph.  More than 250,000 homes and houses were destroyed, as well as 24 hospitals, 277 schools and 58 churches. Runtime: 6:06 mins.
     
    Fire devastation of Hamburg in 1943 by British Air Force
    “Operation Gomorrah”
     

     
    Hellstorm Exposing The Real Genocide of German people during World War Two
     

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    Re: h0Ɩ0cαųst: What Americans did to the Germans
    « Reply #7 on: August 18, 2019, 07:51:22 PM »
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  • Buried history to be sure. The "Allies" did unspeakable crimes to the Germans. 
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  • Notoriously known as "Ike the Kike", considered an incompetent strategist from his early North Africa losses.

    Without battlefield experience, Ike was hand picked by Bernard Baruch over 365 battle tested officers, to lead the Allied Forces.

    And let's not forget that Ike put tens of thousands of the German held Russian POWs into boxcars to be hauled back to Stalin for slaughter.

    Then there's the convenient assassination of George Patton who would have outranked Ike after they both returned from war.

    What a hero!

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  • Quote
    Then there's the convenient assassination of George Patton who would have outranked Ike after they both returned from war.


    I have no pony in this race but I would make a comment regarding historical accuracy.


    As a sidebar to my comment I was unaware that there is a conspiracy theory which suggests that General Patton’s automobile accident on December 8, 1945 was an assassination attempt.  General Patton and his Chief of Staff were on a pheasant hunting trip when their vehicle collided with a truck.  General Patton suffered a broken neck and was paralyzed.  He died in his sleep on December 21, 1945.  

    Back to my comment: 

    George S. Patton was a General (Four Star) in United States Army, promoted to that rank on 14 April 1945, the highest rank he held.


    Dwight D. Eisenhower was promoted to the rank of General (Four Star) on 11 February 1943 and promoted to General of the Army (Five Star) on 11 February 1943.

    At no point in their respective careers did General Patton ever out rank General Eisenhower. 




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    Re: h0Ɩ0cαųst: What Americans did to the Germans
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  • Then there's the convenient assassination of George Patton who would have outranked Ike after they both returned from war.
    not "did outrank Ike".
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  • Gentle Ladies,

    At the Patton Museum near Fort Knox, KY is a display of the General’s life and death.  Even the museum curator surprisingly admitted Patton died of an embolism.  And how might that have happened?

    But there is other evidence of the Jєω hireling who ran into General Patton’s car and even attacked him with a steel bar.

    Unsuccessful in making a clean kill, Patton is kept in a hospital overseen by the OSS.  His wife is not allowed to see him nor can he communicate to the outside world.

    Finally, American military rules change during and at the end of wars. Ike’s command was temporary and Patton held rank over Ike in peace time when the army was de- mobilized.

    Patton fought in WWI and was severely wounded by a sniper. He also built America’s first tank division.

    Would you like me to expand upon Ike’s Brit chauffeur mistress, who took care of him way behind the lines, while Americans were fighting & dying on the battlefields?

    Very clearly, Patton knew too much.
    He had seen Zionism & Communism unleashed at the war’s end.  He knew Ike’s weaknesses and George had 10x’s the charismatic personality than Ike.

    Patton would have run for president and won by a landslide.

    But, so sadly, as Father Fahey has stated, our natural leaders have been stolen from us by the Jєωs.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: h0Ɩ0cαųst: What Americans did to the Germans
    « Reply #12 on: August 19, 2019, 10:16:25 AM »
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  • not "did outrank Ike".
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    Finally, American military rules change during and at the end of wars. Ike’s command was temporary and Patton held rank over Ike in peace time when the army was de- mobilized.
    I remain perplexed as to how General Patton would have out ranked General Eisenhower after the World War II era if he had survived his automobile accident.

    It is true that when the ranks of General of the Army (Five Star) and the Navy's Fleet Admiral were created by Congress on December 14, 1944 they were originally temporary ranks created so that the U.S. would have ranks equivalent to their British counterparts during WWII.  However, Congress made these new ranks permanent on March 23, 1946 https://uslaw.link/citation/us-law/public/79/333

    General Eisenhower was promoted to General of the Army on December 20, 1944 and held that rank until he resigned his commission on May 31, 1952 to run for President.  On March 22, 1961 President Kennedy signed Public Law 87-3 which authorized reappointing Eisenhower "to the active list of the Regular Army in his former grade, of General of the Army with his former date of rank in such grade".

    From this perspective, at no point since December 20, 1944 "did, could, or /would have" General Patton outranked General Eisenhower.

    As I previously stated, I "have no pony in this race" and I have neither strong feelings nor studious knowledge regarding the relative merits or virtues of General Patton versus General Eisenhower.  Some people here do, and their arguments will have greater credibility if the presented facts are accurate.

    Otherwise, I pray that everyone has a blessed 10th week after Pentecost.



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    Re: h0Ɩ0cαųst: What Americans did to the Germans
    « Reply #13 on: August 19, 2019, 11:05:43 PM »
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  • General Patton even stated "we fought the wrong enemy" right after the war ended.
    "I'm running things now, and I'll do everything it takes to destroy the enemies of God. Now, you join me, and I promise you, you'll never have to worry about whether you're doing the right thing or the wrong thing, because we will do the only thing."
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    Re: h0Ɩ0cαųst: What Americans did to the Germans
    « Reply #14 on: August 23, 2019, 01:51:24 PM »
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  • Communism or nαzιsm. Take your pick. Roosevelt was a crypto communist so we fought nαzιsm.

    Does anyone here actually believe that allowing Hitler and his gaggle of wierdos to rule Europe would have been a good thing?

    Remember nαzιsm was condemned in the encyclical of Pope Pius XI  Mit brennender Sorge:

    It condemned "pantheistic confusion", "neopaganism", "the so-called myth of race and blood", and the idolizing of the State. It contained a vigorous defense of the Old Testament with the belief that it prepares the way for the New. The encyclical states that race is a fundamental value of the human community, which is necessary and honorable but condemns the exaltation of race, or the people, or the state, above their standard value to an idolatrous level. The encyclical declares "that man as a person possesses rights he holds from God, and which any collectivity must protect against denial, suppression or neglect.

    Though Hitler is not named in the encyclical, it does refer to a "mad prophet" that some claim refers to Hitler himself.

    A five-member commission drafted the encyclical. The carefully worded denunciation of aspects of nαzιsm was formulated between 16–21 January 1937, by Pius XI, Cardinal Secretary of State Eugenio Pacelli (later Pope Pius XII) and German cardinals Bertram, Faulhaber and Schulte, and Bishops Preysing and Galen.


    No doubt that the Church had and has spoken on this subject and no Catholic can support or be a nαzι.

    About Eisenhower exterminating the German soldiers I have heard of.

    "God, I hate the Germans..." (Dwight David Eisenhower in a letter to his wife in September, 1944)

    If he killed 1 or 2 million German soldiers by direct action on his part, without repentance, then he is in hell. He was no better than Hitler.