Interesting view on that dreadful bombing. More so when you know these two cities were the most Catholic in Japan.


https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/08/jacob-hornberger/hiroshima-and-nagasaki-were-shameful-war-crimes/

Interesting view on that dreadful bombing. More so when you know these two cities were the most Catholic in Japan.


https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/08/jacob-hornberger/hiroshima-and-nagasaki-were-shameful-war-crimes/

WWII is riddled with controversial and devastating bombing attacks that involved civilian centers. Others that come to mind include the horrific Allied firebombing of Dresden and other populous German residential cities, the German bombing of London during the "Blitz", etc. However, Hiroshima and Nagasaki are by far the most prominent and talked about.

An interesting statement made in the above article is that Japan's leadership was actually ready to surrender just before the bombs were dropped. This, if true, would eliminate the reasoning of the US's perceived "advantage" of using the bomb (in the minds of the Allied military leaders, less Japanese and Americans dead overall via bombing than an an all-out traditional hand-to-hand invasion of Japan). However, no specific resources supporting this are given in the article. Is anyone aware of any docuмentation from the Japanese military leadership in WWII that supports this idea of a definite willingness to surrender before the bomb was dropped?

While there were definitely Catholics (even many) in Japan, the Japanese military leadership and public at the time largely adhered to a pagan system of belief. This incorporated elements from the old Samurai code, in which death was preferred to dishonor and surrender or existing as the "loser" in an engagement was essentially prohibited (hence the ritual ѕυιcιdє committed by disgraced or defeated Japanese soldiers, and Japanese contempt for enemies who surrendered). The alleged thinking was that due to this philosophy, the Japanese civilians as well as the remaining military would have essentially fought a traditional hand-to-hand invasion "to the last man", with devastating losses on both sides. (ie, they would have basically committed ѕυιcιdє rather than lose in that way).  While this still does not resolve the ethical questions regarding the bombings, if it is in fact true, it does not indicate a country ready to surrender according to Western principles. Thoughts or other resources regarding this?

Japan surrendered and the Pope was with that understanding. Secret Societies dropped the bombs and the bombings was experimental.  I have 3 books that entail the experiments of the fall out and radiation damages to humans be they pregnant, women babies and such.  Of course there are names and no remorse or sorrow.  All words written, was the results.  I picked up the books at an Estate Sale.

Being taken prisoner as a Japanese soldier brought shame on themselves and the entire family.  Hence their act of hari kari.  Few surrendered.  Even so, Robert McNamara, in the Fog of War docuмentary, talked of how many Japanese cities had been fire bombed by the U.S. and even at that late stage, and after the first mind-blowing nuke, it took a second nuke three days later for them to come to terms.  War is Hell.

P.S.  Don't play with fire.

Those here who might think the destruction of Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki were justified have lost their moral compass.  Murder of innocent civilians can never be justified, as Catholic Moral Theology 101 is that the end does not justify the means.

Those here who might think the destruction of Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki were justified have lost their moral compass.  Murder of innocent civilians can never be justified, as Catholic Moral Theology 101 is that the end does not justify the means.

Correct Ladislaus. That is what Homberger wrote in his article above. 

In the wake of "Oppenheimer" and this thread, this is an interesting look at how the U.S. government has dealt with its citizens when it comes to furthering a war effort.

Collateral damage: American civilian survivors of the 1945 Trinity test

No one would ever have dared to attack civilians and non-combatants back then.

The French Acadian, Irish, and Vendee civilians certainly do not agree with you.