Author Topic: Hilaire Belloc on Nesta Websters antisemitic conspiracy theories (Read 4425 times)

roscoe · « **Reply #30 on:** May 31, 2012, 06:16:57 PM »

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Tele,

We are all trads (even non-trads should know this), and all know that the French Revolution was evil, completely unjustified, and contrary to Christ. But what Belloc was trying to point out, is that not all things from the Revolution are contrary to Christ and Catholic Theology, for example the idea of Democracy. That's all I read. Concerning how the State is run, what rights are given, and the doctrines of "liberty", I don't know what he proposes.

Democracy is based on the denial of original sin that Rousseau derived from the Greeks-- man is good and therefore able to govern himself. Like them, he was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. It is part & parcel of the anti-christian Renaissance.

TraditionalistThomas · « **Reply #31 on:** June 01, 2012, 02:27:06 AM »

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Tele,

We are all trads (even non-trads should know this), and all know that the French Revolution was evil, completely unjustified, and contrary to Christ. But what Belloc was trying to point out, is that not all things from the Revolution are contrary to Christ and Catholic Theology, for example the idea of Democracy. That's all I read. Concerning how the State is run, what rights are given, and the doctrines of "liberty", I don't know what he proposes.

Democracy is based on the denial of original sin that Rousseau derived from the Greeks-- man is good and therefore able to govern himself. Like them, he was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. It is part & parcel of the anti-christian Renaissance.

Can you refer me to any encyclicals or writings of the Church concerning Democracy? It would be a good read.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #32 on:** June 01, 2012, 07:03:06 AM »

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Democracy is based on the denial of original sin that Rousseau derived from the Greeks-- man is good and therefore able to govern himself. Like them, he was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. It is part & parcel of the anti-christian Renaissance.

The Greeks did not believe in true democracy. Athens was a slave-holding society ruled by an aristocratic elite.

roscoe · « **Reply #33 on:** June 01, 2012, 11:43:51 AM »

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Tele,

We are all trads (even non-trads should know this), and all know that the French Revolution was evil, completely unjustified, and contrary to Christ. But what Belloc was trying to point out, is that not all things from the Revolution are contrary to Christ and Catholic Theology, for example the idea of Democracy. That's all I read. Concerning how the State is run, what rights are given, and the doctrines of "liberty", I don't know what he proposes.

Democracy is based on the denial of original sin that Rousseau derived from the Greeks-- man is good and therefore able to govern himself. Like them, he was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. It is part & parcel of the anti-christian Renaissance.

Can you refer me to any encyclicals or writings of the Church concerning Democracy? It would be a good read.

Both Pius IX & Leo XIII forbid Catholics to vote. This is reluctantly changed by Pius X. Pius XI later exiles the Democrat Fr Sturzo from Italy.