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Offline IllyrianOZ

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« on: March 06, 2012, 05:35:17 AM »
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  • I've come across some material that says that the Heraldry of Europe is all based on luciferian/occult symbols. and I was pretty disappointed. I have a little Albanian Eagle pendant on my chain next to my crucifix, and now I'm beginning to wonder whether I should take it off.

    Aparently, the Double-Eagle, as seen on the Austro-Hungarian/Serbian/Albanian(as in my picture) is actually supposed to be a double headed phoenix or something..

    That being said, I am aware that Freemasons tend to 'wreck' everything thats ours.. they take the concept/image and corrupt its original meaning to make it occult

    e.g. They took the symbol of the pyramid (a symbol of The Trinity) and made it evil.



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    « Reply #1 on: March 06, 2012, 06:19:07 AM »
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  • The masons lay claim to triangles as originating from pyramids, with the sun rising over the capstone at dawn. They equate Lucifer to the Sun and Horus, all 'angels' or 'gods' of light, where stars were once believed to be angels. Who invented the triangle? The first recognizable triangle would have been a mountain, so you can blame gravity. To me it means the Most Holy Trinity, and nothing else. It's only a shape, remember that.

    As for two-headed eagles, yes they are fairly recent. Phoenixes as you know represent reincarnation which runs deep in masonry/occult.

    But again, eagles, birds, lions and so forth are frequently symbols of Christianity too - and why not! However, if it comes to determining occult origins of symbolism, Freemasonry usually writes its language on the symbol by keeping to some kind of geometrical shape or pattern. For example, the symbolism of bees, often used in Anglican school crests, are chosen not merely to symbolize the efficient cooperation of workers for a common cause, or something like that. The bee represented an Egyptian goddess (Neith? i think), or the "Great Mother". Poor bees. The trick is that the proportions of the bee as drawn are made to follow certain patterns, like fitting the points of a pentagram, for example.

    It is all quite interesting to study symbolism, but it is wrong to let symbols as such have a power over your thoughts. After all, visual images only exist to serve man, not to govern him. Let Christian symbolism be in your home, in your life, in your work. Recognizing those symbols in other people's work might give you an idea of who they are or how they think. Knowing about the symbolism of the occult is very useful because people who are entangled in all of that can't help but give themselves away in that regard.  :detective:


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    « Reply #2 on: March 06, 2012, 06:20:42 AM »
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  • Symbols often have more than one interpretation or meaning.

    Many of them are older than Christianity.

    It's best not to get obsessed about sinister meanings, but to be aware that they are often used to project sinister meanings.


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    « Reply #3 on: March 06, 2012, 06:42:50 AM »
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  • Cults, Freemasonry, and other assorted evil institutions have been perverting many Christian signs and symbols for hundreds of years.  

    The symbols of European heraldry, as in all Christian art, were not created with Lucifer in mind, but rather, with Christ.  You find much of the same symbolism in both heraldry and in Christian art.  In fact, until the Faith began to waiver in Europe, it is very difficult to find any art (whether in painting, sculpture, or heraldry) that was not very clearly Christian.  Heraldic symbolism was developed at virtually the same time period when one would never see a painting of a bowl of fruit--unless that painting clearly and unambiguously glorified God.

    Much of this symbolism was developed long before Freemasonry and it was developed with the intent of assisting the faithful to lift their hearts and minds to God.  Many symbols can be traced to Holy Scriptures (especially in the Apocalypse of St. John) and even where it can be directly shown to be of pagan origin, its meaning had already been Christianized (just as the Christmas tree was).

    The fact that popes, bishops, and many saints of the Catholic Church have, for centuries, had Coats of Arms that contain virtually any imaginable symbol is, I think, an indication that heraldic symbolism was never intended to be Satanic.  

    This material you found is decidedly non-Catholic and is probably anti-Catholic.  Even if it doesn't mention the Church at all, its purpose is to sew doubt about the Catholic Church through history and cause the loss of faith in souls.  This material reminds me of the "evolutionary psychologists" who study the way human behaviour developed through millennia of evolution.  These supposed scientists make up purely naturalistic explanations to every human emotion that sound, at first, plausible, but clearly have no basis is fact or evidence.

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    « Reply #4 on: March 06, 2012, 07:14:12 AM »
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  • This is false.  Heraldry has several antecedents, but it sources to classical antiquity.  The Greeks painted images on their sheilds, the most famous was the Spartan lambda.  Others might have used a sphinx, or a gorgon.  Later, in Rome, shields were adorned with similar images, the lightening bolt, symbol of Jupiter, is one that is known.  In Rome, the symbols became associated with certain legions, becoming something like a regimental crest, like the black horse symobolizes the cavalry division in the US Army today.  

    In the late Empire, the different governors of the provinces were apparently assigned a picture symbol, something like the official "imago," or stylized portrait of the Emperor carried by the legion's standard bearer.  There is a book called something like the "notitia" that has them.  Part of the thinking is that as literacy declined, messengers found it easier to recognize the picture than read the name.  This was significant, because the image was linked with a geographic office.

    These trends came together in the early middle ages when knights painted their sheilds for recognition in battle.  The first ones were apparently not hereditary, and were very simple - usually geometric.  Later, by around the crusades, they were becoming more pictorial and passed along to descendents.  Since last names were not common, and many symbols punned on location (if someone lived in a tower, a tower might be placed on the shield).

    Save me from the lion's mouth; and my lowness from the horns of the unicorns.


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    « Reply #5 on: March 06, 2012, 08:44:21 AM »
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  • I feel strongly that God judges us by what these symbols mean to us, not what the devil makes them out to mean.

    Look at what the "gays" are now doing with the rainbow.  

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    « Reply #6 on: March 06, 2012, 10:59:37 AM »
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  • Quote from: Koleci
    I've come across some material that says that the Heraldry of Europe is all based on luciferian/occult symbols. and I was pretty disappointed. I have a little Albanian Eagle pendant on my chain next to my crucifix, and now I'm beginning to wonder whether I should take it off.

    Aparently, the Double-Eagle, as seen on the Austro-Hungarian/Serbian/Albanian(as in my picture) is actually supposed to be a double headed phoenix or something..

    That being said, I am aware that Freemasons tend to 'wreck' everything thats ours.. they take the concept/image and corrupt its original meaning to make it occult

    e.g. They took the symbol of the pyramid (a symbol of The Trinity) and made it evil.



    Thoughts?
     Just ask your priest to bless your crucifix and pendant, or use Holy Water if in doubt.

    The disinfo agents try to make all of symmetry and beauty dirty.  Resist it, and embrace beauty.  For example, college professors tell their students that Our Lady is actually worshipping the serpent beneath her foot..you get the picture.  

    Offline IllyrianOZ

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    « Reply #7 on: March 06, 2012, 04:18:52 PM »
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  • Thanks for your imput guys.Your answers are what I had thought, I just needed some clarification.


    The Rainbow, Triange, All-Seeing Eye, Double-Eagles, etc.. they have corrupted their meanings..

    They ruin everything! lol


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    « Reply #8 on: March 06, 2012, 04:41:20 PM »
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  • Quote from: Koleci
    Thanks for your imput guys.Your answers are what I had thought, I just needed some clarification.


    The Rainbow, Triange, All-Seeing Eye, Double-Eagles, etc.. they have corrupted their meanings..

    They ruin everything! lol


    The sad, very sad part is they capture our youth, and tell them, see here, your Church has all these pagan and evil symbols, so how can you say it is holy, and came from God.  This is why our youth must be educated to this fact, that the Catholic church does not stem from paganism but the evil ones steal our holiness, and corrupt its meaning.  

    They even do things in reverse, for example, take something that is evil, like some hand gestures, that were  meant to be Satanic, and when you point this out to the liberals, they say, oh that is not evil it is just the Texas longhorn, or something.  Can't remember exactly .  

     

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