Agree with both. I know a priest in the TM who is a con artist.  Sadly, the more I learn about +Fellay, the more he sounds like this priest:  Eliminating and/or smearing the opponent ( +Williamson); Distorting the Truth;  I'm in authority-trust me; micro-management; get the people to demand what you want from them;  ignore the Truth; peddle disinformation ("Against the Rumors" type); confusing reality; damage control; becoming offended to get sympathy and point the finger at your opponent as in this link:

I would hope each member of the forum will listen to the You tube by Dean Gocher, an expert on Higalian dialetcics.  It is social engineering  or social  psychology.
This process has been used for years to manage and eliminate opposition.
The goal of Marx was to destroy the family (kill the father).  Bishop Williamson is the father that was killed and expelled.

The process goes like this:

Someone comes into a meeting stating  to state a position.  This is a preach and teach  instructional position. (thesis)
the facilitater  at the meeting opens up the dialogue.  He produces a non hostile environment.

During the dialogue, the consensus of  "feelings" is reached (syntheses).  This is done by the facilitater.  This creates tension.  (anthisis)
The facilitater works to marginalize and isolate the person who has come in with  a true premise based on  morality and Christian belief.
The person is gradually isolated and either leaves the scene or is removed.  The consensus wins.  

Facilitater  = Krah

If you listen to the interview of Dean Gotcher by Jeff Rense, it will familiarize  you with the process.  This is now in full force in the SSPX.   I had to listen to the interview several times and take notes.  This interview on Youtube is not complete, but there are other interviews on you tube that can be viewed in parts.



Its so important to understand the tactics of the enemy.  All of us will be put into the situation of defending our faith.  After you hear these talks, you will understand what happened to Bishop Williamson.  He was the father who would have lead the SSPX.  They killed his reputation and removed him.  Little by little they will do this to dissenting priests and laymen.  The process will coninue .  The  priest superiors are going around the country to each parish to see where the opposition is.  They can then transfer  "conditioned " priests there, after they have gone thru the re education process.  These priest will neutralize the opposition.  
Bishop Williamson and the other isolated bishops will just be a memory in the years to come.
God grant them the courage to band together and leave the "Neo SSPX"!!!  Weekly blogs wont do it!

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Agree with both. I know a priest in the TM who is a con artist.  Sadly, the more I learn about +Fellay, the more he sounds like this priest:  Eliminating and/or smearing the opponent ( +Williamson); Distorting the Truth;  I'm in authority-trust me; micro-management; get the people to demand what you want from them;  ignore the Truth; peddle disinformation ("Against the Rumors" type); confusing reality; damage control; becoming offended to get sympathy and point the finger at your opponent as in this link:

I would hope each member of the forum will listen to the You tube by Dean Gocher, an expert on Higalian dialetcics.  It is social engineering  or social  psychology.
This process has been used for years to manage and eliminate opposition.
The goal of Marx was to destroy the family (kill the father).  Bishop Williamson is the father that was killed and expelled.

The process goes like this:

Someone comes into a meeting stating  to state a position.  This is a preach and teach  instructional position. (thesis)
the facilitater  at the meeting opens up the dialogue.  He produces a non hostile environment.

During the dialogue, the consensus of  "feelings" is reached (syntheses).  This is done by the facilitater.  This creates tension.  (anthisis)
The facilitater works to marginalize and isolate the person who has come in with  a true premise based on  morality and Christian belief.
The person is gradually isolated and either leaves the scene or is removed.  The consensus wins.  

Facilitater  = Krah

If you listen to the interview of Dean Gotcher by Jeff Rense, it will familiarize  you with the process.  This is now in full force in the SSPX.   I had to listen to the interview several times and take notes.  This interview on Youtube is not complete, but there are other interviews on you tube that can be viewed in parts.



Its so important to understand the tactics of the enemy.  All of us will be put into the situation of defending our faith.  After you hear these talks, you will understand what happened to Bishop Williamson.  He was the father who would have lead the SSPX.  They killed his reputation and removed him.  Little by little they will do this to dissenting priests and laymen.  The process will coninue .  The  priest superiors are going around the country to each parish to see where the opposition is.  They can then transfer  "conditioned " priests there, after they have gone thru the re education process.  These priest will neutralize the opposition.  
Bishop Williamson and the other isolated bishops will just be a memory in the years to come.
God grant them the courage to band together and leave the "Neo SSPX"!!!  Weekly blogs wont do it!

Good job Emerentiana!
This is a geat post that pulls the Wizard of Oz's "curtain open".

(Fratres, let's distribute this post and video link to other forums).

The SSPX faithful have been trying to figure out what is going on and
this sheds light on the whole disgusting process.  

I'd like to run Max Krah out of town on a rail...
only after the zio-twerp had been tarred & feathered.  

For Msgr. Fellay... a monastery cell for the rest of his life would be too luxurious.

 

 :dwarf:

Incredulous said:

Emerentiana,

I posted it on Ignis Ardens.

This topic is so explosive, the moderators may be fearful and delete it.

Let's see what happens ?

 
Yes, this is an explosive topic, and the key to whats going on in the SSPX,

If you notice, now the Neo SSPX is starting to marginalize and expell the good priests that speak out.
Lets look at the marginalizing and expulsions:

Frs Chazel  and Pfeiffer : removed from their missions.......now being expelled.
Fr Hewko:  removed from his parish in NY, and sent to New Zealand

The most astounding are the 2 SSPX Bishops
+Tissear De Mallarius (spelling?) taken from his native France and moved to Chicago?  
Bishop Galeretta  moved from his Spanish speaking region to Geneva?
These Bishops have been marginalized now.  I dont think they will be expelled, because it would cause to much furor, and maybe wake up too many sheep.  

This is the Devil's game.  Deceit always is.  The opposition MUST be eliminated.

Notice that the Bishops are not giving fiery talks.  Bishop Williamson is the only one speaking out now.  They do have him caged and right where they want him, as he cant leave England.  His case is  a perfect example of the finished dialectic process.
They have villified him, and then expelled him from the Chapter meeting.
 Hes not expelled from the Society yet, but he might as well be.
To expell him would also cause a lot of furor.

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Agree with both. I know a priest in the TM who is a con artist.  Sadly, the more I learn about +Fellay, the more he sounds like this priest:  Eliminating and/or smearing the opponent ( +Williamson); Distorting the Truth;  I'm in authority-trust me; micro-management; get the people to demand what you want from them;  ignore the Truth; peddle disinformation ("Against the Rumors" type); confusing reality; damage control; becoming offended to get sympathy and point the finger at your opponent as in this link:

I would hope each member of the forum will listen to the You tube by Dean Gocher, an expert on Higalian dialetcics.  It is social engineering  or social  psychology.
This process has been used for years to manage and eliminate opposition.
The goal of Marx was to destroy the family (kill the father).  Bishop Williamson is the father that was killed and expelled.

The process goes like this:

Someone comes into a meeting stating  to state a position.  This is a preach and teach  instructional position. (thesis)
the facilitater  at the meeting opens up the dialogue.  He produces a non hostile environment.

During the dialogue, the consensus of  "feelings" is reached (syntheses).  This is done by the facilitater.  This creates tension.  (anthisis)
The facilitater works to marginalize and isolate the person who has come in with  a true premise based on  morality and Christian belief.
The person is gradually isolated and either leaves the scene or is removed.  The consensus wins.  

Facilitater  = Krah

If you listen to the interview of Dean Gotcher by Jeff Rense, it will familiarize  you with the process.  This is now in full force in the SSPX.   I had to listen to the interview several times and take notes.  This interview on Youtube is not complete, but there are other interviews on you tube that can be viewed in parts.



Its so important to understand the tactics of the enemy.  All of us will be put into the situation of defending our faith.  After you hear these talks, you will understand what happened to Bishop Williamson.  He was the father who would have lead the SSPX.  They killed his reputation and removed him.  Little by little they will do this to dissenting priests and laymen.  The process will coninue .  The  priest superiors are going around the country to each parish to see where the opposition is.  They can then transfer  "conditioned " priests there, after they have gone thru the re education process.  These priest will neutralize the opposition.  
Bishop Williamson and the other isolated bishops will just be a memory in the years to come.
God grant them the courage to band together and leave the "Neo SSPX"!!!  Weekly blogs wont do it!

In general I agree. I certainly believe that such alchemical processing of humans is in play in the SSPX.  That is why I have referred to Fellay and his inner circle, including his court Marrano, as change agents. Unfortunately the post does misstate the "traditional" sequence of thesis>antithesis>synthesis.   The post is also deficient in failing to identify the source of the process, namely Lucifer.

The 16th century Kabbalistic rabbi Yitzhak Luria (the same devil-worshipping warlock who instructed John Dee, Elizabeth I's intelligence agent, "British Israel's" first "MI5" spy agent) described what had already been in the rabbis' diabolical playbook for millennia: pillar of gevurah/severity > pillar of chesed/mercy > pillar of tiferet/harmony (often called "middle pillar"). Hegel only updated the phraseology.  Lucifer and his ѕуηαgσgυє are the source of this processing.  How else, but by Satan's incremental "dialectic," were the rabbis to void the commandments of God for their diabolical traditions? See Jesus' own judgment at Mark 7:9.

We begin to see why the sleeper-agent Fellay appointed the Marrano, why he has sanitized SSPX websites to soothe the adversaries to all men, why he allowed "The Saint of the Sanhedrin" (The Angelus, December 2009), and why he has adopted the alchemizing neurolinguistics of "Elder Brother." Just as "gαy" made sodomy so appealing to the masses, so does Fellay's use of "Elder Brothers" absolve the Deicides of the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan.

The sleeper agent has awakened to do his assigned tasks.

We also begin to see why it has been said by those who knew him that Abp. Lefebvre had to be pressured by big [ʝʊdɛօ-masonic?] money to reluctantly consecrate Fr. Fellay.  Of course the devil would not fail to penetrate the most faithful remnant of Catholicism.

May God have mercy on us all. Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us!

the dialect could also be Racist=defending non whites an whites....war is peace and laziness nad failing to read/discern , but broad brush others is Christ like.....will just attack them  and make them feel real welcome, like a punch in th nose is a welcome to our house.

thanks for the leason, Git......

HIDE means HIDE, meaning what it means

lets review:
1. I made some posts
2. you clearly did not know what was going on, but took umbridge to what I said
3. I then tried to explain and refer you to what was going on elsewhere at CI
4. you apparently took no time to read nor understand, but accused me of derail a thread. Not sufficient, you accused me of a very dastardly thing, racism, when I was doing just the opposite. You then, not sufficing on that, went further to insult me further and told me that no one-per you-wanted me back and all but called me an asshole. You were insulting and rude and ove r the top for no reason and per your comments about me past here, remember me obviously and details about my work,etc. You have a personal greiveance....
5. everytime try to talk to you, you shut me down and attack.......

So, sorry, but you want to be gold and direct, thats fine. You get then what you get with me.

and again, sine you are on HIDE, I dont see your comments and are purposely, not looking at bottom of my replies to see what you said/responded to.........

my comments stand, in that you last time I haunted here and now, are still a tight assed, sanctimonious Git....were then, still are apparently, now......

BTW, your comments on me=racist, be glad that you are a women, if I recall right and not in front of me.......the only thing worse is heretic and/or Jєω....

if memory serves, you will now attack, whine and play the victim, so....your on....but alone...

still not peeking, still on hide-check the other thread you just posted on the SSPX donations down one.....sad........your need to keep engaging me and trying to win (as if)

move on, other people, other topics........