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Telesphorus · « **on:** November 20, 2010, 10:10:06 PM »

It is a Papal Bull of Pius V.

I could not find it searching.

Cristian · « **Reply #1 on:** November 23, 2010, 07:21:01 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

It is a Papal Bull of Pius V.

I could not find it searching.

What is it about exactly? Do you have the date of it?

Telesphorus · « **Reply #2 on:** November 23, 2010, 07:29:07 AM »

It relates to expelling the Jєωs from the Papal States.

Cristian · « **Reply #3 on:** November 23, 2010, 07:55:02 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

It relates to expelling the Jєωs from the Papal States.

Ok, I`ll check in the library when I go there (I hope to remember since my memory is really bad!). You have the date of it?

innocenza · « **Reply #4 on:** November 23, 2010, 02:57:07 PM »

Cristian, Telesphorus --

In general, is there a way to access papal and other Catholic historical docuмents if you cannot go to a library anywhere? Is there a way to have entree to the JStor library when one not an academic, by paying a (reasonable) membership fee?

I have been trying to find Pius IX's allocution to French pilgrims of May 5, 1874, and have only come up with blanks. (Maybe because of how un-PC a docuмent it no doubt is?)

Cristian · « **Reply #5 on:** November 24, 2010, 06:40:17 AM »

Quote from: innocenza

Cristian, Telesphorus --

In general, is there a way to access papal and other Catholic historical docuмents if you cannot go to a library anywhere? Is there a way to have entree to the JStor library when one not an academic, by paying a (reasonable) membership fee?

I have been trying to find Pius IX's allocution to French pilgrims of May 5, 1874, and have only come up with blanks. (Maybe because of how un-PC a docuмent it no doubt is?)

Innocenza,

Sorry, I don`t know very much where to find out on the net those papal docuмents.

What is it about that allocution of Pius IX? (I`m almost sure I can get this one on the library).

Cristian

innocenza · « **Reply #6 on:** November 24, 2010, 07:15:49 AM »

Cristian --

That allocution has been cited as stating:

"To allow the masses, invariably uninformed and impulsive, to make decisions on the most serious matters, is this not to hand oneself over to chance and deliberately run towards the abyss? Yes, universal suffrage should rather be called universal madness, and when, as so often happens, it is taken over by the secret societies, it is universal falsehood!"

I wanted to see the original in its entirety, but have come up with nothing on the Net.

Many thanks, Cristian!

Cristian · « **Reply #7 on:** November 25, 2010, 06:31:38 AM »

Quote from: innocenza

Cristian --

That allocution has been cited as stating:

"To allow the masses, invariably uninformed and impulsive, to make decisions on the most serious matters, is this not to hand oneself over to chance and deliberately run towards the abyss? Yes, universal suffrage should rather be called universal madness, and when, as so often happens, it is taken over by the secret societies, it is universal falsehood!"

I wanted to see the original in its entirety, but have come up with nothing on the Net.

Many thanks, Cristian!

Innocenza,

Ok, I`ll check it as soon as I can. I`m sure I can get it on the library.

De rien! :dancing:

Cristian

Cristian · « **Reply #8 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:54:00 AM »

Telesphorus-Innocenza: sorry but I couldn`t get any of the docuмents :sad: (still looking though)

Telesphorus · « **Reply #9 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:16:07 AM »

Surprising that it's hard to get a hold of.

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #10 on:** December 28, 2010, 12:38:07 PM »

Quote from: innocenza

Cristian, Telesphorus --

In general, is there a way to access papal and other Catholic historical docuмents if you cannot go to a library anywhere? Is there a way to have entree to the JStor library when one not an academic, by paying a (reasonable) membership fee?

I have been trying to find Pius IX's allocution to French pilgrims of May 5, 1874, and have only come up with blanks. (Maybe because of how un-PC a docuмent it no doubt is?)

Doesn't newadvent.org have them online?

innocenza · « **Reply #11 on:** January 11, 2011, 01:40:11 PM »

If they do, I haven't found what I was looking for there. Not that I have any but very amateur skills in such research. I've only found references to the supposed allocution; the original appears completely elusive.

Regards.
J.

Cristian · « **Reply #12 on:** January 11, 2011, 03:05:10 PM »

Quote from: spouse of Jesus

Quote from: innocenza
Cristian, Telesphorus --

In general, is there a way to access papal and other Catholic historical docuмents if you cannot go to a library anywhere? Is there a way to have entree to the JStor library when one not an academic, by paying a (reasonable) membership fee?

I have been trying to find Pius IX's allocution to French pilgrims of May 5, 1874, and have only come up with blanks. (Maybe because of how un-PC a docuмent it no doubt is?)

Doesn't newadvent.org have them online?

I couldn´t found anything on the net...

Belloc · « **Reply #13 on:** January 12, 2011, 07:55:30 AM »

Quote from: spouse of Jesus

Quote from: innocenza
Cristian, Telesphorus --

In general, is there a way to access papal and other Catholic historical docuмents if you cannot go to a library anywhere? Is there a way to have entree to the JStor library when one not an academic, by paying a (reasonable) membership fee?

I have been trying to find Pius IX's allocution to French pilgrims of May 5, 1874, and have only come up with blanks. (Maybe because of how un-PC a docuмent it no doubt is?)

Doesn't newadvent.org have them online?

they left off, in the Fathers section, Chrysostom's sermons against Jєωs...

Telesphorus · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2011, 08:09:27 AM »

Quote from: Belloc

Quote from: spouse of Jesus
Quote from: innocenza
Cristian, Telesphorus --

In general, is there a way to access papal and other Catholic historical docuмents if you cannot go to a library anywhere? Is there a way to have entree to the JStor library when one not an academic, by paying a (reasonable) membership fee?

I have been trying to find Pius IX's allocution to French pilgrims of May 5, 1874, and have only come up with blanks. (Maybe because of how un-PC a docuмent it no doubt is?)

Doesn't newadvent.org have them online?

they left off, in the Fathers section, Chrysostom's sermons against Jєωs...

As time goes on many of these things are being purged and harder to find. It's important to save docuмents when we find them, I need to keep that lesson in mind.