Author Topic: Have Jєωs bought off the SSPX? (Read 3643 times)

Geremia · « **on:** February 02, 2014, 08:18:10 PM »

Apparently the Gutmanns are donors to the SSPX's Virginia, U.S.A., seminary project; they're a family who amassed their wealth by partnering with Salomon Rothschild:

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Siscoe: Another company name that is mentioned is Jaidhofer Foundation. Can you discuss this company?

Krah: Yes, this is linked with the SSPX ... There is a family in Austria which wanted to donate to the SSPX, but did not want to donate directly. They wanted to establish a foundation that would support the SSPX. And in every foundation you need some trustees. It’s a kind of trust, and I am one of the trustees. I was chosen by the family who established the foundation ... This foundation is supporting the SSPX and using the money which was donated by this family. As an example, it is supporting the new Seminary project in Virginia ...

(source: The Remnant's "Krahgate: An Interview with Maximilian Krah"; courtesy: "The Rothschild-Gutmann Money Behind the SSPX Kosher Imperative" of the Maurice Pinay blog)

Geremia · « **Reply #1 on:** February 02, 2014, 10:40:52 PM »

UPDATE:

Quote from: james03

Krah is back!!!

Evidently the branch of Gutmanns supporting the SSPX converted to the Catholic Faith decades ago. They give their money to the SSPX. So no, the Jєωs have not bought off the SSPX.

From a link on the site, it appears that the Gutmanns gave ABL a nice estate in 1985. Someone who knows German can interpret it. So if this assertion is correct, the "Jєωs" have bought off the SSPX going on 30 years.

icterus · « **Reply #2 on:** February 12, 2014, 09:33:36 AM »

I think, at this point, it is vital that each person go look in the mirror and ask the tough question: Have I been bought off by the Jєωs?

It may have happened without your knowledge. Inform yourself.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2014, 03:53:22 PM »

Quote from: icterus

I think, at this point, it is vital that each person go look in the mirror and ask the tough question: Have I been bought off by the Jєωs?

It may have happened without your knowledge. Inform yourself.

The mirror isn't the place to find that information. :wink:

Geremia · « **Reply #4 on:** February 13, 2014, 12:48:14 AM »

Quote from: icterus

I think, at this point, it is vital that each person go look in the mirror and ask the tough question: Have I been bought off by the Jєωs?

It may have happened without your knowledge. Inform yourself.

Yes, every Novus Ordite needs to ask this question.

songbird · « **Reply #5 on:** February 13, 2014, 04:33:25 PM »

I have before me "The Angelus for May of 2002. On page 18, under "An undermining of the Holy Scriptures. "The Biblical Commission this past autumn (2001) under the control of Cardinal Ratzinger's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, published a book in French dealing with the Jєωιѕн vision of the Christian Bible. It deals with the modern-day Jєωιѕн interpretation of the Holy Scriptures. The Commission concluded: "The Jєωιѕн interpretation has developed in parallel to the Christian interpretation and both are valid. It's wrong to say that prophecies speak of the coming of Christ, so it's wrong to say the Jєωs are without excuse when they don't see Christ in the Holy Scriptures......

But Our Lord Himself said, "Read the Scriptures. They speak of Me." The People of the Commission contest the words of Our Lord. How do the modernists exegetes interpret away Our Lord's words, "Woe to you, Pharisees?"- they say "the evangelist is reflecting the discriminatory attitude of the Christian Community, which had problems with the Jєωs!" So, do these words come from Jesus Himself, or not? This new book concludes they are not. This is directly against Catholic Dogma teaching us that the Holy Scriptures tell the truth, are authentic, written by inspired writers and not by people of the 2nd and 3rd century.

If you think that the Jєωs took over Pius X, it sounds like they are getting along.

Graham · « **Reply #6 on:** February 13, 2014, 08:17:59 PM »

Bishop Fellay says the Jєωs are our elder brothers.

Geremia · « **Reply #7 on:** February 13, 2014, 09:12:34 PM »

Quote from: Graham

Bishop Fellay says the Jєωs are our elder brothers.

Which Jєωs?

Graham · « **Reply #8 on:** February 13, 2014, 09:41:27 PM »

Which Jєωs - are you joking. Well, we don't know precisely which Jєωs he was referring to, so I guess we'd better withhold judgment and presume he meant the Jєωs are our elder brothers in the orthodox sense, whatever that is.

Which Jєωs. Presumably the same Jєωs that JPII was talking about, since that's the man he was echoing.

Geremia · « **Reply #9 on:** February 13, 2014, 09:43:35 PM »

Quote from: Graham

Which Jєωs - are you joking. Well, we don't know precisely which Jєωs he was referring to, so I guess we'd better withhold judgment and presume he meant the Jєωs are our elder brothers in the orthodox sense, whatever that is.

Which Jєωs. Presumably the same Jєωs that JPII was talking about, since that's the man he was echoing.

So, modern-day Jєωs?
I rather like calling the Old Testament "Jєωs" Israelites or, better, Christians.

John Grace · « **Reply #10 on:** February 14, 2014, 01:25:25 PM »

I recall Raphaela stating this was all "black propaganda".

John Grace · « **Reply #11 on:** February 14, 2014, 01:39:28 PM »

There was minimum and lack of interest in Krahgate in 2010.

JPaul · « **Reply #12 on:** February 14, 2014, 06:59:26 PM »

Quote from: Graham

Bishop Fellay says the Jєωs are our elder brothers.

No idea what he is talking about, I have one brother and one sister .......and they are Catholic. All of my brethren in the Holy Faith, and those in Heaven are Catholic as well.
Perhaps he is projecting?

Wessex · « **Reply #13 on:** February 20, 2014, 06:18:02 PM »

I wonder if those eager-beaver seminarians entering that memorial to the House of Rothschild will ever reflect on such an elephant in their midst. Maybe their programme of studies will include an appreciation of Catholic-Jєωιѕн reconciliation as part of the bargain. I am sure Max Krah will be lobbying for such a novelty.

JPaul · « **Reply #14 on:** March 03, 2014, 12:35:15 PM »

Quote from: Wessex

I wonder if those eager-beaver seminarians entering that memorial to the House of Rothschild will ever reflect on such an elephant in their midst. Maybe their programme of studies will include an appreciation of Catholic-Jєωιѕн reconciliation as part of the bargain. I am sure Max Krah will be lobbying for such a novelty.

Well, if they come there from an SSPX school in Germany they will already have been treated to the fables of holo-cost "survivors".