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Griff Ruby is Questionable on the Jews
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2015, 11:41:47 AM »
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    Given his un-Catholic view about Jews demonstrated in the post above I wonder who he would accuse of being "anti-semitic." I doubt solely Nazis. Just to use the dubious term "anti-semitic" is problematic.

    Since you both post on Te Deum, I think you should ask him if he considers Bishop Williamson to be an "anti-semite."


    Maybe I will when my ban expires.


    Another tedeum bannee.  Was it for "heresy" or for some other truth you stated?
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Griff Ruby is Questionable on the Jews
    « Reply #16 on: October 13, 2015, 11:44:06 AM »
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    Maybe I will when my ban expires.

    Oh you were temp banned? I didn't know. Was it because of your posts on race?


    No it was because I insulted VoxPopulissuxx. Same reason I was temp-banned the first time.


    LoxVox is a friend of mine.  But he is not moderator material.  Many feel the same way there.  If he banned you that more often than not can be because you said something correct that he simply did not understand or like but not because it was false.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    Griff Ruby is Questionable on the Jews
    « Reply #17 on: October 13, 2015, 11:47:57 AM »
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    Good grief!  In most of that "long posting" I am talking about the ancient Jews as mentioned in the Bible - before they rejected Christ, and the transition from that ancient covenant of God to the current covenant of Christ.  I guess by rum's standards, no one should have followed Moses out of Egypt, and maybe we should be rooting for Goliath rather than young (king-to-be) David, and maybe it's a shame the Greeks didn't succeed at womping the Maccabees.

    These ancient Jews were every bit as much in the center of God's plan as we traditional Catholics are today, so therefore I rejoice as much in their successes as I do in ours.  As for modern Jews, I can easily go with Fr. Fahey, but that is as far as I go.


    I'm glad you were here to defend yourself.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Griff Ruby is Questionable on the Jews
    « Reply #18 on: October 14, 2015, 09:45:37 PM »
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    Good grief!  In most of that "long posting" I am talking about the ancient Jews as mentioned in the Bible - before they rejected Christ, and the transition from that ancient covenant of God to the current covenant of Christ.  I guess by rum's standards, no one should have followed Moses out of Egypt, and maybe we should be rooting for Goliath rather than young (king-to-be) David, and maybe it's a shame the Greeks didn't succeed at womping the Maccabees.

    These ancient Jews were every bit as much in the center of God's plan as we traditional Catholics are today, so therefore I rejoice as much in their successes as I do in ours.  As for modern Jews, I can easily go with Fr. Fahey, but that is as far as I go.


    How about explaining your views that I posted in the OP?

    You equate Jewish persecution of Christians with Christian self-defense against Jews. You claim that the Holocaust isn't fiction:

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    In the early days of Christianity, the Christians were persecuted by the Jews.  It was only several centuries later they had sufficiently grown in size to “turn the tables” and even begin persecuting Jews, which seems a rather shocking lack of Christian forgiveness as I see it.

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    "Must we too now proceed to endure centuries of persecutions and pogroms as the Jew has long known far too well?  Must we remain scattered and few and disunited until some such time, centuries hence, that some monstrous regime slaughters six million of us?"


    Similar to your comments in the OP, from the 2007 AllExperts post:

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    I know that in a certain prayer recited by the Church once a year we make reference to “perfidious Jews.”  But is “perfidious” a descriptive adjective or classifying adjective?  Does it mean to imply that all Jews are perfidious, or does it mean to single out certain particular Jews who merely happen to also be perfidious?
      And by the way, I just thought I would mention here that “perfidious” in this particular liturgical usage merely means “unbelieving,” and in this case, quite specifically “unbelieving in the messianic claims of Jesus of Nazareth.”  It was never meant as an insult and should never be so taken.  It is simply a bare fact that they themselves would not deny (as understood here) and why it is they are in our prayers.


    You acknowledge that perfidious is a synonym for unbeliever, but say it doesn't apply to all Jews. You then say that it does apply to all Jews, but isn't meant as an insult. You wanna make a bet? The Church calling a group of people unbelievers is an insult. The Church singling out the Jews for this special prayer is because the Church views the Jews as having an especially potent anti-Christ spirit. The Jews should be offended by the prayer. And let them be.

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    At most, one might concede a disproportionate number of those in the conspiracy to be of Jewish ancestry, due to the simple fact that the price of entry is a great deal of money.


    The entire Jewish nation is one large army specifically opposed to Catholicism. They are a nation within nations. So they represent one large conspiracy in spirit against Christendom.

    That I should have to point these things out to a guy who passes himself off as an expert on traditional Catholicism is a joke.

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    Re: Griff Ruby is Questionable on the Jews
    « Reply #19 on: March 10, 2019, 05:06:55 AM »
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  • I've posted more about Ubipetrus/Griff Ruby on this page:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/was-ex-cardinal-mccarrick-a-sovet-spy/msg646029/#msg646029

    The only time this holohoax-peddling Judaizing lunatic has addressed me, as far as I recall, is here:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/cathinfo-forbids-calling-rr-a-heresy/165/

    I wonder if he's ever asked Jews why they hate gentiles.


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    Re: Griff Ruby is Questionable on the Jews
    « Reply #20 on: March 10, 2019, 08:20:01 PM »
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  • I've posted more about Ubipetrus/Griff Ruby on this page:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/was-ex-cardinal-mccarrick-a-sovet-spy/msg646029/#msg646029

    The only time this holohoax-peddling Judaizing lunatic has addressed me, as far as I recall, is here:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/cathinfo-forbids-calling-rr-a-heresy/165/

    I wonder if he's ever asked Jews why they hate gentiles.
    I am glad someone called Mr. Ruby out on this.  Good, more people need to expose the people (inside the fence) shilling for the chosen elder brothers.  It baffles my mind how so many traditional Catholics are clueless with this undeniable conspiracy.  Another suspect goes by Introibo. His blog is found at www.introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com .  Good job Rum.   

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    Re: Griff Ruby is Questionable on the Jews
    « Reply #21 on: March 11, 2019, 06:21:18 AM »
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  • "Ruby" surname is usually truncated from the Jew surnames "Rubenstein" and "Rubin". The motive is usually ulterior.
    the Jews, who both killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men.
    ~ 1 Thessalonians 2:14-15

    I knew in my faith that the Jews were accursed and condemned without end, except those who were converted. ~ Bl. Juliana of Norwich

     

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