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Re: Girl Pours Bleach On Men To Stop Man-Spreading
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2018, 12:25:37 PM »
You till me what you consider scandalous in a marriage. Then we can see if we are even talking about the same thing.

Re: Girl Pours Bleach On Men To Stop Man-Spreading
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2018, 12:26:39 PM »
We should never attack anyone unless our lives, or physical well being depend on it. So we don’t break the 5th commandment.
The 5th Commandment does not apply to just punishments.  This is why traditionally Catholics have virtually always accepted capital, as well as corporal, punishment.  It has never been Church teaching that self-defence is the only acceptable reason to use force.

If one looks at the examination of conscience in the Angelus Missal, one of the questions under the 5th commandment is whether one has "threatened or struck others not under your charge".  Catholics believe that physical force may be used as a legitimate exercise of authority.

One may make an argument that a husband does not have that sort of authority over his wife (although this is not historically the Catholic view), but one cannot claim that self-defence is the only permissible reason for physical force.


Re: Girl Pours Bleach On Men To Stop Man-Spreading
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2018, 12:32:02 PM »
What if the soul depends on it? The state of the soul is more important than the physical life. Corporal punishment is just, not abuse, against a wife who scandalizes children or puts her own, or her husband's, soul at risk of damnation.
This would have been the standard belief of Catholics for most of our history.  It is a recent development that this is now considered controversial.

Re: Girl Pours Bleach On Men To Stop Man-Spreading
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2018, 12:37:02 PM »
The 5th Commandment does not apply to just punishments.  This is why traditionally Catholics have virtually always accepted capital, as well as corporal, punishment.  It has never been Church teaching that self-defence is the only acceptable reason to use force.

If one looks at the examination of conscience in the Angelus Missal, one of the questions under the 5th commandment is whether one has "threatened or struck others not under your charge".  Catholics believe that physical force may be used as a legitimate exercise of authority.

One may make an argument that a husband does not have that sort of authority over his wife (although this is not historically the Catholic view), but one cannot claim that self-defence is the only permissible reason for physical force.
I’m not against any of that. We also aren’t talking about in a court system. We are talking about in a marriage. 

Re: Girl Pours Bleach On Men To Stop Man-Spreading
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2018, 12:41:45 PM »
I’m not against anything the church teaches about wives being submissive.


I’m not against the death penalty at all. 


But when we are talking about in a marriage which is entirely different from this those situations. If a husband is allowed to do this who knows what kind of rules, or punishments he could apply.