Author Topic: German SSPX seminary raided? (Read 1905 times)

Matthew · « **on:** January 24, 2009, 02:58:48 PM »

From a post on another Catholic forum:

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The seminary in Zaitzkofen (Bavaria, Germany) was raided today by the federal German police who asked Rev. Fr. Frey, the seminary rector, whether The h0Ɩ0cαųst Denial had taken place on the premises of the seminary. The rector did not respond, but he did say he saw a Swedish camera crew.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #1 on:** February 02, 2009, 01:03:16 PM »

I am dying to know what has happened with regard to this.

My children and I are offering masses and prayers for Bp. Williamson and his enemies.

TheD · « **Reply #2 on:** November 27, 2009, 12:34:21 PM »

bump.

Belloc · « **Reply #3 on:** November 30, 2009, 02:34:19 PM »

sounds like Germany is increasingly going fascist again, this time with no real creed other than egalitarianism and indifference....

greenhill · « **Reply #4 on:** November 30, 2009, 02:48:17 PM »

Well, I wouldn´t say fascist. Fascism was highly organised and orderly with clear codes of behaviour

This is chaos and amoral and busy-bodying all at the same time.

No, isn´t the whole world the same? They have a secular religion with certain dogmas and if you transgress you get punished. America has its modern dogmas too, I suppose.

Germany has an obsession about not offending the Jєωs. So a Jєω can curse the Germans and if you do the same back. Chop!!!!! It´s madness!

I think Bishop Williamson didn´t realise that freedom of speech ends here when you blaspheme against the h0Ɩ0cαųst industry religion.

Belloc · « **Reply #5 on:** November 30, 2009, 03:23:52 PM »

Good points

Raoul76 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 30, 2009, 03:46:44 PM »

Let me ask you guys this --

If the Orthodox Christians were persecuted by the Bolsheviks in Russia, are they martyrs who are going to heaven?

If certain members of the SSPX, who are una cuм with an anti-Christ, are persecuted for saying the h0Ɩ0cαųst didn't happen, does that mean they are necessarily Catholic martyrs?

Is it a dogma of the Catholic faith that the h0Ɩ0cαųst didn't happen? No. Is it a dogma of the Catholic faith that one must not use birth control? Yes. Priorities are not exactly straight here.

There is once again a double-minded disconnect here. Bishop Williamson can figure out the inconsistencies in the official version of the h0Ɩ0cαųst but he can't figure out that the Church has been taken over by Freemasons and Jєωs and that therefore it is no longer the Church?

There is a large chance ( like 99%, but I'm trying to be cautious ) that this Bishop Williamson drama is all staged and Hegelian dialectic. That is why his comments made such big news and why they were timed the way they were. This way everyone can deceive themselves with greater facility. Those in Vatican II who are friends of the Jєωs and of the new springtime feel good about themselves because they are against Bishop Williamson, while those in SSPX feel like they are on the side of a persecuted hero.

When people see things like this, this kind of persecution, stormtroopers and gulags, they tend to have a Pavlovian reaction. They say "The truth must be where the persecution is." The devil knows that and uses it against you. You can see it in the silly little videos of the likes of Alex Jones where he is manhandled and put in detention camps, shrieking through his bullhorn. This is a crude, lower-level version of what we might see with SSPX. It's a complete farce; Bishop Williamson and the SSPX are in bed with the anti-Christs in Rome to the point where they prop them up by saying the New Rites of Consecration are valid ( and those in SSPX, this should have been your final warning to get out, because there are no excuses left as there may have been up to a certain point in time ).

The devil no longer persecutes the real truth-tellers directly that way; his new tactic is to totally obliterate the truth so that the real truth-tellers become powerless. Athanasius actually talked about this in his time. He said that the Arians would have been much more successful if they didn't use brute force, that they would have taken over the entire world if they had worked on peoples' minds, on their weaknesses. Well, it has now happened.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 30, 2009, 03:49:14 PM »

Correction: New Rite of Consecration.

And instead of "use birth control" read "practice birth control." The verb "use" makes people think of artificial birth control like condoms but I'm referring to NFP and ALL birth control.

Belloc · « **Reply #8 on:** December 01, 2009, 08:18:06 AM »

Quote from: Raoul76

Let me ask you guys this --

If the Orthodox Christians were persecuted by the Bolsheviks in Russia, are they martyrs who are going to heaven?

only if they did not promote NFP :roll-laugh1: for when we die and go before the judgment seat, that is the only question we will be asked.. (insert tongue sideways into cheek :roll-laugh2: )

Belloc · « **Reply #9 on:** December 01, 2009, 08:19:48 AM »

Quote from: Raoul76

Let me ask you guys this --

If the Orthodox Christians were persecuted by the Bolsheviks in Russia, are they martyrs who are going to heaven?

now, seriously, do not see in any post posts in this thread anything to do with Orthodox, so it is a mute point.....yes, I know you are trying to draw a parallel, somehow, between orthodox schismatics and SSPX, it is weak and not a consideration, really...

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 07, 2009, 02:34:17 AM »

To this day, 0ver 64 years after the end of WW2, there
is still no peace treaty with Germany, and she is still an
an occupied country. The US signed a peace treaty with
Japan in 1953. This is pure evil. The victorious nations
of WW2 are now occupied with a demonic evil spirits
that are now preparing for the end of all wars, ww3 that
is coming sooner than you think. Be in the State of
Grace.

Belloc · « **Reply #11 on:** December 07, 2009, 09:12:23 AM »

Quote from: RomanCatholic1953

To this day, 0ver 64 years after the end of WW2, there
is still no peace treaty with Germany, and she is still an
an occupied country. The US signed a peace treaty with
Japan in 1953. This is pure evil. The victorious nations
of WW2 are now occupied with a demonic evil spirits
that are now preparing for the end of all wars, ww3 that
is coming sooner than you think. Be in the State of
Grace.

True