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Vladimir · « **on:** October 28, 2009, 04:53:08 PM »

I have read many bad things about General Franco from school textbooks (which I do not consider reliable) but I see him praised often on Catholic forums, so I am wondering were I can read more about him from a Catholic perspective. Was he a great defender of the Faith?

Telesphorus · « **Reply #1 on:** October 28, 2009, 05:08:02 PM »

Quote from: Vladimir

I have read many bad things about General Franco from school textbooks (which I do not consider reliable) but I see him praised often on Catholic forums, so I am wondering were I can read more about him from a Catholic perspective. Was he a great defender of the Faith?

The non-Catholic sources, are like almost all modern sources, carrying an extreme liberal/leftist bias.

The Angelus had some very good articles about the Spanish cινιℓ ωαr over the past few months.

You might want to subscribe to some of the back issues.

Vatican II and Opus Dei cut the legs out from under the Franco regime. Franco became an old man after all.

To tell you the truth, I don't know a lot about it.

Just recognize the people who hate Franco hate him because he killed nun-raping and murdering henchmen of Stalin and anarchist devotees of Satan. That's the real reason they hate him. Because they are cowards who cannot stand the thought they might be held to account.

roscoe · « **Reply #2 on:** October 28, 2009, 05:10:49 PM »

If one goes to http://used.addall.com , two books by Richard Pattee can be found-- The Religious Question In Spain and This Is Spain.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 28, 2009, 05:23:40 PM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/23/capa-spanish-civil-war-ph_n_243492.html

This is about how the famous Robert Capa photograph of a dying Republican -- i.e. communist -- soldier was staged. This of course was done to make the communists look like the good guys. And of course, Robert Capa is a Jєω...

But I must admit I haven't studied this era of history very much. Shameful, considering I am half-Spanish.

Vladimir · « **Reply #4 on:** October 28, 2009, 07:43:35 PM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Quote from: Vladimir
I have read many bad things about General Franco from school textbooks (which I do not consider reliable) but I see him praised often on Catholic forums, so I am wondering were I can read more about him from a Catholic perspective. Was he a great defender of the Faith?

The non-Catholic sources, are like almost all modern sources, carrying an extreme liberal/leftist bias.

The Angelus had some very good articles about the Spanish cινιℓ ωαr over the past few months.

You might want to subscribe to some of the back issues.

Vatican II and Opus Dei cut the legs out from under the Franco regime. Franco became an old man after all.

To tell you the truth, I don't know a lot about it.

Just recognize the people who hate Franco hate him because he killed nun-raping and murdering henchmen of Stalin and anarchist devotees of Satan. That's the real reason they hate him. Because they are cowards who cannot stand the thought they might be held to account.

Thank you everyone that responded.

Yes, I know that most modern books have a liberal agenda. I have had to sit through the past few weeks of school learning about the "barbarian" Christians massacre countless of the holy Muslims during the Crusades.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #5 on:** October 28, 2009, 08:02:59 PM »

Pio Moa is an ex-leftist, so be wary. Of course the PP is of the Vatican II breed of Catholic so they will not defend Franco.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%ADo_Moa

Caraffa · « **Reply #6 on:** October 28, 2009, 08:22:41 PM »

Quote from: Vladimir

I have read many bad things about General Franco from school textbooks (which I do not consider reliable) but I see him praised often on Catholic forums, so I am wondering were I can read more about him from a Catholic perspective. Was he a great defender of the Faith?

Vlad, many of those anti-Franco textbooks have an Americanist bent. Some try to tie Franco to Hitler, but Franco had nothing to do with Hitler's policies in Germany. I believe that he was a defender of the faith as he favored Catholic morality and opposed liberal-freemasonic tendencies in Spain. I do have some problems with Franco though as he did harm Carlism by taking certain moderate-liberal positions, such as favoring liberal Juan Carlos I. However, many of his supporters were Carlists.

roscoe · « **Reply #7 on:** October 28, 2009, 11:15:05 PM »

The problem with the Carlists has always been that there are no grounds for their claim. If a woman cannot rule Spain-- what about Isabella?

Belloc · « **Reply #8 on:** October 29, 2009, 07:03:36 AM »

Quote from: Vladimir

I have read many bad things about General Franco from school textbooks (which I do not consider reliable) but I see him praised often on Catholic forums, so I am wondering were I can read more about him from a Catholic perspective. Was he a great defender of the Faith?

Not strictly speaking a Catholic defender like Isabella...but he was devout and from what I rad, would not allow non-Catholics in Govt service.....you could be a non-Catholic, but worship was strictly private, no prostylizing....he was shocked and never really got over V2....nor betrayal by Opus Dei...

Belloc · « **Reply #9 on:** October 29, 2009, 07:05:28 AM »

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Vlad, many of those anti-Franco textbooks have an Americanist bent.

True, he was not trying to impose theGod Democracy.....hence, he is a baddy.....to Americanists....

Vladimir · « **Reply #10 on:** October 29, 2009, 09:35:57 AM »

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Quote from: Vladimir
I have read many bad things about General Franco from school textbooks (which I do not consider reliable) but I see him praised often on Catholic forums, so I am wondering were I can read more about him from a Catholic perspective. Was he a great defender of the Faith?

Not strictly speaking a Catholic defender like Isabella...but he was devout and from what I rad, would not allow non-Catholics in Govt service.....you could be a non-Catholic, but worship was strictly private, no prostylizing....he was shocked and never really got over V2....nor betrayal by Opus Dei...

I would have been as well, had I been alive before the council.

Belloc · « **Reply #11 on:** October 29, 2009, 09:40:04 AM »

I have part 3/3 talk on Franco between Judith Sharpe and Peter Chonkoski(?), but cannot find it online anymore, nore parts 1 and 2....

Telesphorus · « **Reply #12 on:** October 29, 2009, 09:40:10 AM »

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The problem with the Carlists has always been that there are no grounds for their claim. If a woman cannot rule Spain-- what about Isabella?

The Salic Law was amended to allow Isabella II to become Queen. It was a travesty to enable the liberals to keep power.

Vladimir · « **Reply #13 on:** October 29, 2009, 09:42:19 AM »

"I am responsible only to God and to history"

"Communists should be crushed like worms"

I love General Franco already!

Belloc · « **Reply #14 on:** October 29, 2009, 09:42:23 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Quote from: roscoe
The problem with the Carlists has always been that there are no grounds for their claim. If a woman cannot rule Spain-- what about Isabella?

The Salic Law was amended to allow Isabella II to become Queen. It was a travesty to enable the liberals to keep power.

People forget the past, like the 1930's....most now even forget the day before.......dumbed down.