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Offline Yeti

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Re: Fr Paul Robinson SSPX. v Young Earth Creationists
« Reply #90 on: August 18, 2021, 08:51:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: Hermes on August 18, 2021, 08:49:37 PM
    Is the earth on the back of a crab or a turtle in that picture?
    I believe a turtle is supporting three Indian elephants, who in turn support the disc of our green earth.
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    Re: Fr Paul Robinson SSPX. v Young Earth Creationists
    « Reply #91 on: August 18, 2021, 08:52:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on August 18, 2021, 08:51:19 PM
    I believe a turtle is supporting three Indian elephants, who in turn support the disc of our green earth.
    :laugh1:
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    Re: Fr Paul Robinson SSPX. v Young Earth Creationists
    « Reply #92 on: August 18, 2021, 08:54:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on August 18, 2021, 05:20:08 PM
    I have seen no convincing evidence that the earth is a globe either, rather than flat.
    People figured out over 2000 years ago the earth was round. If you have seen "no convincing evidence" yet, then I doubt it's possible to "convince" you of anything.

    Also, I uploaded that turtle shadow almost 3 years ago.
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    Re: Fr Paul Robinson SSPX. v Young Earth Creationists
    « Reply #93 on: August 18, 2021, 09:09:01 PM »
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    • LOL! Maybe you're where I got that picture in the first place. Anyway, I almost died laughing when I saw it, and I was in proximate danger of dying from the same cause for almost a week after seeing it. I believe I saw that image with the caption, "Flat earth eclipses are AWESOME!!!" :laugh2:
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    Re: Fr Paul Robinson SSPX. v Young Earth Creationists
    « Reply #94 on: August 18, 2021, 09:12:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on August 18, 2021, 05:20:08 PM
    For that matter, I have seen no convincing evidence that the earth is a globe either, rather than flat.

    You haven't seen "convincing evidence that the earth is a globe" --- so far ok, that's just a lack of education --- but then you say: "rather than flat."

    Did you see convincing evidence that the earth is flat?
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    Re: Fr Paul Robinson SSPX. v Young Earth Creationists
    « Reply #95 on: August 18, 2021, 09:17:51 PM »
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    • There’s a ton of evidence which strongly suggests that the earth is flat.  I’m still on the fence about it, but I’m willing to look at the evidence unlike you brainwashed fools.
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    Re: Fr Paul Robinson SSPX. v Young Earth Creationists
    « Reply #96 on: August 18, 2021, 09:22:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Marion on August 18, 2021, 09:12:42 PM
    Did you see convincing evidence that the earth is flat?
    :popcorn:
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    There’s a ton of evidence which strongly suggests that the earth is flat.  I’m still on the fence about it, but I’m willing to look at the evidence unlike you brainwashed fools.
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    Brainwashed by whom? I just told you Aristotle knew the earth was a sphere 400 years before Christ. And Eratosthenes, more or less a contemporary of Aristotle, actually measured the circuмference of the earth with startling accuracy using a couple of sticks in the ground and basically a ruler. He got within about 2% of the correct measurement. The human race has always known the earth is round. The idea that the earth is flat is a modern phenomenon invented in Victorian England.
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    Re: Fr Paul Robinson SSPX. v Young Earth Creationists
    « Reply #97 on: August 18, 2021, 09:27:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on August 18, 2021, 08:51:19 PM
    I believe a turtle is supporting three Indian elephants, who in turn support the disc of our green earth.

    Some Sunni Saracens believe that the earth is on the back of a whale and the whale is on the head of a bull.

    Earthquakes happen when the bull aggressively spasms.

    EDIT: Reviewed Hadith on story to correct original post.
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    Re: Fr Paul Robinson SSPX. v Young Earth Creationists
    « Reply #98 on: August 18, 2021, 09:30:38 PM »
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    • Nah. All the beasts are above the earth:

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    Re: Fr Paul Robinson SSPX. v Young Earth Creationists
    « Reply #99 on: August 18, 2021, 10:54:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Hermes on August 18, 2021, 08:49:37 PM
    Is the earth on the back of a crab or a turtle in that picture?
    It looked like a spider there for a second. Shelob is real guys, just about 10 trillion times the size Tolkien said she was.
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    Re: Fr Paul Robinson SSPX. v Young Earth Creationists
    « Reply #100 on: August 18, 2021, 10:56:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on August 18, 2021, 09:17:51 PM
    There’s a ton of evidence which strongly suggests that the earth is flat.  I’m still on the fence about it, but I’m willing to look at the evidence unlike you brainwashed fools.
    Your kidding, right?
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    Re: Fr Paul Robinson SSPX. v Young Earth Creationists
    « Reply #101 on: August 18, 2021, 11:32:54 PM »
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    Re: Fr Paul Robinson SSPX. v Young Earth Creationists
    « Reply #102 on: August 19, 2021, 05:48:02 AM »
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    • Quote from: Stanley N on August 18, 2021, 03:41:46 PM

    Do see that what Cassini wrote is simply wrong? A greater mass does have greater attraction (it weighs more), but acceleration is force/mass, so they both acceleratte (fall) at the same rate due to gravity. If gravity is the dominant force (air resistance is negligible) then they "hit the ground" at the same time. This is basic physics.

    Wouldn't you expect that someone talking about physics would know at least basic physics?

    No, I do not have a PHd in physics, I don't need one in this case. I figured that one out to show Newton's gravity theory is not the law its made out to be. Two heaver objects, the Earth and a cannonball, according to Newton, have a greater attraction towards one another than the Earth and a feather. But, as is known, both fall at the same rate, which to me shows Newton's mass attraction theory is flawed. That was my point.

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    Re: Fr Paul Robinson SSPX. v Young Earth Creationists
    « Reply #103 on: August 19, 2021, 05:56:23 AM »
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    • No, I’m not kidding.  There’s loads of evidence, from experiments conducted to demonstrate that objects are still visible from distances at which they should not be given curvature of the earth, to evidence using sensitive GPS equipment from many miles away demonstrating that tall buildings are not leaning away from each other as they should given earth’s curvature.  Phases of the moon are easily explainable if given the paradigm that the sun and moon are much closer to the earth than scientists claim and rotating in circles above the plane of the earth.  They’ve done experiments with lasers across large bodies of water where the laser continues to hit its target on a small boat at distances where it should not have been possible given curvature math.
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    Re: Fr Paul Robinson SSPX. v Young Earth Creationists
    « Reply #104 on: August 19, 2021, 06:02:22 AM »
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    • Quote from: Stanley N on August 18, 2021, 03:19:09 PM
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    It is a simple fact that no experiment has ever demonstrated the motion of the earth.  Every attempt has shown the opposite result, and so then they make up theories to explain away the result.
    So says you.

    Do you have sufficient background to make such a statement? Have you studied opposing writers (and not just to quote mine like a Protestant)? Have you taken your concerns to a professional, like a college professor of astronomy, and got their response? Have you even taken a class in astronomy? Have you done anything to have your "facts" challenged intellectually?

    Or do you avoid this hard intellectual work and just emote your "results" ?

    Ok Stanley, let us recall what the top physicists in history have said about 'no experiment ever demonstrated the motion of the Earth.

    ‘Whether the Earth rotates once a day from west to east as Copernicus [and Galileo] taught, or the heavens revolve once a day from east to west as his predecessors believed, the observable phenomena will be exactly the same. This shows a defect in Newtonian dynamics, since an empirical science ought not to contain a metaphysical assumption that cannot be proved or disproved by observation.’[1]
    [1]Bertrand Russell: quoted in D. D. Sciama’s The Unity of the Universe, p.18.


    ‘All modern cosmology stands or falls with this concept [heliocentrism] being correct, even though, to quote a text approved by Einstein: “We cannot feel our motion through space, nor has any experiment ever proved the Earth is in motion.”’[1]
    [1]Lincoln Barnett: The universe and Dr. Einstein, Dover Publications, 1948, p.73.


    Richard Dawkins himself has admitted: ‘It is not actually provable that the Earth orbits the Sun, but it is perverse to deny it.’[1]
    [1]Richard Dawkins, speaking on gαy Byrne’s The Meaning of Life, RTE, 18th Oct. 2015.

    Finally

    ‘Nobody that I know of in my field of theoretical physics uses the “so called scientific method.”’ --- Michio Kaku; theoretical physicist at the City College of New York, a best-selling author, and a well-known populariser of science. (Wiki)


    Now Stanley, you go show that lot above you know better.
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