The constant lies coming from NASA that Ladislaus mentions above is a hallmark of the satanic. satan is "the father of lies".

Far by me to break up your mutual admiration society, but I addressed what Ladislaus said.

You may think there are "lies" from NASA, but the allegations I've looked at turned out to be easily explainable.

The real lies come from con men like Weiss. So according to you, that puts Weiss among satan's minions.

Meg asked why people defend Nasa. I'm not, and I'm not that interested in what nonsense random people on the internet believe in.

But with you I share a religion (though at times I wonder), and some of you I know. If one of my closer friends were stuck in the rabbit hole of FE or moon landing denial nonsense, yes, I would talk to him and try to get him out of the hole for his mental and spiritual welfare. Believing con men like Weiss is not good for you.

If one of my closer friends were stuck in the rabbit hole of FE or moon landing denial nonsense ...

I'm sorry, but you have to be a bloody idiot to believe that the US was capable of landing on the moon.

So are we going to see some arguments for and against the moon landings? They're both hard to prove and hard to disprove because the whole undertaking is very complex and multilayered.

Perhaps you want to make a start, Ladislaus, as you seem to have a very strong opinion on this?

I'm sorry, but you have to be a bloody idiot to believe that the US was capable of landing on the moon.

So are we going to see some arguments for and against the moon landings? They're both hard to prove and hard to disprove because the whole undertaking is very complex and multilayered.

Perhaps you want to make a start, Ladislaus, as you seem to have a very strong opinion on this?

There's more where this one came from I believe.
https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/to-those-who-believe-in-the-moon-landings

I remember my friend from Church telling me how he was introduced to conspiracy theories. He had a friend who told him, Paul McCartney died and was replaced in 1966, and then that the moon landing was a hoax. The thing about the moon landings is why haven't we gone back in fifty years? Every area of technology has gotten so much better, but in that one thing we are not nearly as capable? Going to the moon should be easy by now. If going to the moon advanced at the same rate as other technology, we would have colonies there by now, and hotels for the rich and famous.

Yeah, that's a huge red flag for the moon landing, they claim that for manned moon landings, humans traveled about 1000 times further from the Earth (beyond e.g. the Van Allen belts) than the well-known spacecraft and satellites are (low earth orbit). Though it's worth mentioning that there are a lot of satellites and other spacecraft that probably have travelled into deep space, I don't think these are fake too. But then there's fake images of the mars rovers, so you can't be too sure of other claims either.

We'll see what SpaceX does with it's HLS craft in 2024 as they got a contract by NASA to go "back" to the moon.

Here's something of interest to some who seem to be under the impression that Fr. Robinson believes in theistic evolution. I follow him on Goodreads.

So ....  what is he?

Fr Robinson probably invented a new term, to explain his quasi-heresies.  He's so "special" that old terms can't apply to him.

There are only two ways to reject the compound term "theistic evolutionist".  Either he's an evolutionist but not theistic (i.e. atheistic evolutionist) or else he's not an "evolutionist" at all ... for which I have seen no evidence.  So I have no idea what the heck he's trying to say there.  Is he rejecting the "theistic" part or the "evolutionist" part?

Just got Fr Paul Robinson SSPX's book  THE REALIST GUIDE TO RELIGION AND SCIENCE to read again from a friend. He said I could keep it. I can now answer any questions on it. I will be back later 9after dinner, steak tonight0 to answer Ladislaus first.