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Fr. Edward MacDonald on Trump and hαɾɾιs
« on: October 31, 2024, 08:23:23 AM »
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    • Someone sent me this by priate message from Father Edward MacDonald.  I have not seen the original myself.

    [TEXT BELOW]:

    Donald Trump and Kamala hαɾɾιs have much in common:
    • They will not ban abortion, or criminalize, defund and prosecute Planned Parenthood
    • They will not ban euthanasia
    • They will not ban Sunday work or  Sunday shopping
    • They will not demand that butchers close on Fridays
    ◦ Sunday work and meat on Friday were two of the reasons that Our Lady of La Salette
    complained about. They were part of the cause of the potato blight in which 8,000,000 died
    • They will not repeal the Patriot Act
    • They will not condemn the Covid Deception and Police State lockdown as an act of despotism and
    treason
    • They will not incriminate “Christian” Zionism as treason
    • They will not stop the invasion of millions of illegal immigrants (no ma#er Trump’s empty
          promises)
    • They will not stop funding Israel, or declare Israel and Zionism (B’nai B’rith, Chabad     
    Lubavitch, AIPAC) to be at war against Christian America
    • They will not stop funding the UN, They will not stop funding NATO
    • They will not stop funding international trips for members of congress
    • They will not stop funding government schools
    • They will not stop funding for ‘public’ radio and TV
    • They will not send out search parties for POWs and MIAs
    • They will not investigate POWs and MIAs to determine what happened to each of them
    • They will not get the USA out of the UN
    • They will not kick the UN out of the USA
    • They will not take US soldiers out of the UN army
    • They will not leave NATO
    • They will not stop sending soldiers to undeclared wars
    • They will not bring the soldiers home from undeclared wars
    • They will not abolish the FDA, DHS, IRS, FBI, ATF, DEA, FEMA, the Federal Reserve, NSA, the
    Pentagon, TSA, CIA
    • They will not hold pharmaceuticals responsible for damage caused by their drugs / vaccines
    • They will not ban contraceptives
    • They will not ban human sterilization
    • They will not declare that men are responsible for their own physical and mental health
    • They will not declare that parents are responsible for the health & education of their children
    • They will not end the War on Terror’s global Reign of Terror
    • They will not investigate Israel, NYC and DC’s (Netanyahu, Silverstein, Bush/Chenny’s) acts of
    treason and acts of war on 9/11
    • They will not take a single step towards dismantling America’s bipartisan Totalitarian
          monstrosity
    • They will make no effort to liberate America from the tyranny of the Elders of Zion
    • They will not rescind the Noahide Laws legalizing the government’s capital punishment for the
    “anti-Semitic hate crime” of professing Christianity
    • They will not expose the true hate crimes behind the тαℓмυd and the Protocols of the Learned
    Elders of Zion
    • They will not submit and conform the Rights of Man to the Rights of God
    • They will not end the war on drugs
    • They will not legalize hemp
    • They will not reverse America's bipartisan determination to use Ukraine and Iran to provoke
    Russia unto a nuclear third world war.
    • They will not enact the Christ the King Amendment, CONSECRATING America to the King of
    Kings
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    Re: Fr. Edward MacDonald on Trump and hαɾɾιs
    « Reply #1 on: October 31, 2024, 08:27:34 AM »
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    • This is like a guy writing out a long list of the perfect woman he has in mind that he wants to date... you look at it, hand it back to him and say "good luck" and laugh because you know he is living in some fantasy world. One does not look for a perfect diamond, one finds potential and then carves away. 

    God Bless
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    Re: Fr. Edward MacDonald on Trump and hαɾɾιs
    « Reply #2 on: October 31, 2024, 08:30:35 AM »
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    • Everything there is great except for the concessions to Russian agitprop. Ukraine was always in their sights as is every other former SU oblast. Ukraine has it's own separate language and culture when permitted to ditch the Soviet ties. They deserve to be a truly Catholic country and if given the chance might help to convert Russia however that comes about.
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    Re: Fr. Edward MacDonald on Trump and hαɾɾιs
    « Reply #3 on: October 31, 2024, 08:34:00 AM »
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    • Quote from: Croixalist on October 31, 2024, 08:30:35 AM
    Everything there is great except for the concessions to Russian agitprop.

    And someone will take exception to something else, and something else, others will want to add to it or subtract from it... for such people, it's their way or the highway, not looking for ways to make it work or build up, just making long lists of demands and then throwing in the towel when they obviously couldn't fulfil every dot or iota.

    God Bless
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    Re: Fr. Edward MacDonald on Trump and hαɾɾιs
    « Reply #4 on: October 31, 2024, 09:01:50 AM »
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    • Quote from: josh987654321 on October 31, 2024, 08:27:34 AM
    This is like a guy writing out a long list of the perfect woman he has in mind that he wants to date... you look at it, hand it back to him and say "good luck" and laugh because you know he is living in some fantasy world. One does not look for a perfect diamond, one finds potential and then carves away.

    God Bless

    You have to be kidding, right?  These are grave defects, not merely a "wish list".

    Yeah, your "list of the perfect woman analogy" would be along the lines of ...

    1) She should be a 10 in terms of looks.
    2) She should be a saint in terms of virtue.
    ...

    vs.

    1) She shouldn't be badly deformed.
    2) She shouldn't have slept with 200 men already.

    Much of this list is in the second set rather than in the first set above (i.e. your "wish list").
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    Re: Fr. Edward MacDonald on Trump and hαɾɾιs
    « Reply #5 on: October 31, 2024, 09:02:48 AM »
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    • Quote from: josh987654321 on October 31, 2024, 08:34:00 AM
    And someone will take exception to something else, and something else, others will want to add to it or subtract from it... for such people, it's their way or the highway, not looking for ways to make it work or build up, just making long lists of demands and then throwing in the towel when they obviously couldn't fulfil every dot or iota.

    God Bless

    Couldn't or wouldn't? Our churches, our governments, our families, our very lives are permitted to continue with the hopeful provision that we use all things with the intent of knowing, loving and serving the Tr(i)u(n)e God. The freemasons have made it practically impossible to vote from the heart in an election of pre-selected candidates. Either write in a worthy candidate or don't vote for any of them. Throwing in the towel would be voting for any of these diabolically dysfunctional, synthesized dialectic sinners.

    Elon Musk has become Trump's honorary running mate and suddenly he believes in the "teachings of Christ". Give me a break, this a total farce. Even Judas betrayed our Lord with the words "Hail Rabbi." Real Catholic change in this country will require martyrdom and unless I see that spirit, I'm not falling for it.
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    Re: Fr. Edward MacDonald on Trump and hαɾɾιs
    « Reply #6 on: October 31, 2024, 09:05:11 AM »
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    • I also take great offense at the insinuation that the choices are the same... because it is an outrageous lie! I was not persecuted for refusing the jab when Trump was in office, it was not Biden/hαɾɾιs who overturned Roe v Wade, Trump didn't start these wars and I could go on and on... absolutely outrageous and totally foolish thing to imply. 

    "For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."

    God Bless





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    Re: Fr. Edward MacDonald on Trump and hαɾɾιs
    « Reply #7 on: October 31, 2024, 09:12:00 AM »
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    • Quote from: Croixalist on October 31, 2024, 09:02:48 AM
    The freemasons have made it practically impossible to vote from the heart in an election of pre-selected candidates. Either write in a worthy candidate or don't vote for any of them.

    You just called it 'demonocracy' in the other thread, you both would not vote for any candidate and nobody would be good enough and that's a fact. If by some miracle I found someone you'd vote for, with the resources of the US Deep State they have dozens of ways to slander such a person and play you if he became any kind of realistic threat.

    One strives for perfection one doesn't demand perfection. Nobody goes to bed a sinner and wakes up a saint, both on the individual level and at the societal level.

    Now if you spurn this once in a lifetime opportunity with Trump, then just remember that Tedros for one thanks you and is ready to go for round 2 -



    So stop, pray and please think seriously about what you are saying and doing. Like I said, if the early Christians thought like this then Constantine the Great would have been over before he even begun and you would not get miracles, you would get judgement along with the rest, for your no choice is just as culpable for the situation as my choice. God multiplies out efforts but 2x0 is still 0, even when Christ performed miracles he required something of the person, who took a risk. 

    "Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."

    God Bless

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    Re: Fr. Edward MacDonald on Trump and hαɾɾιs
    « Reply #8 on: October 31, 2024, 09:14:06 AM »
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    • Quote from: josh987654321 on October 31, 2024, 09:05:11 AM
    I also take great offense at the insinuation that the choices are the same...

    Why are you taking "offense"?  What is to you, personally?  Seems like you're emotionally invested in this rather than interested in making a rational analysis.

    Differences really are differences of degree vs. differences of kind.  If Trump were Pro Life in principle, he wouldn't enthusiastically support 94% of abortions.  So he's just for a bit less abortion than the Dems are.  That is NOT much of a differnece, and in fact ZERO difference in principle, one merely of pragmatic application.
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    Re: Fr. Edward MacDonald on Trump and hαɾɾιs
    « Reply #9 on: October 31, 2024, 09:19:55 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 31, 2024, 09:14:06 AM
    Why are you taking "offense"?  What is to you, personally?  Seems like you're emotionally invested in this rather than interested in making a rational analysis.

    Differences really are differences of degree vs. differences of kind.  If Trump were Pro Life in principle, he wouldn't enthusiastically support 94% of abortions.  So he's just for a bit less abortion than the Dems are.  That is NOT much of a differnece, and in fact ZERO difference in principle, one merely of pragmatic application.

    Of course I take offense, the man overturned Roe v Wade among so much more and with great difficulty and you treat it like it was nothing, well I certainly don't and I certainly appreciate those who are trying and especially delivering results, he is not perfect (nobody is) I see the potential though and I will certainly pray for them.

    "Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."

    God Bless 
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    Re: Fr. Edward MacDonald on Trump and hαɾɾιs
    « Reply #10 on: October 31, 2024, 09:33:37 AM »
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    • Quote from: josh987654321 on October 31, 2024, 09:12:00 AM
    You just called it 'demonocracy' in the other thread, you both would not vote for any candidate and nobody would be good enough and that's a fact. If by some miracle I found someone you'd vote for, with the resources of the US Deep State he would be absolutely slaughtered if he became any kind of realistic threat.

    One strives for perfection one doesn't demand perfection. Nobody goes to bed a sinner and wakes up a saint, both on the individual level and at the societal level.

    Now if you spurn this once in a lifetime opportunity with Trump, then just remember that Tedros for one thanks you and is ready to go for round 2 -



    So stop, pray and please think seriously about what you are saying and doing. Like I said, if the early Christians thought like this then Constantine the Great would have been over before he even begun and you would not get miracles, you would get judgement along with the rest, for your no choice is just as culpable for the situation as my choice.

    "Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."

    God Bless

    You're so locked into a canned mentality that unless you stick a fork in it, the good stuff won't ever come out for you. I'm all for writing-in the person you truly want to be in office and if that's not possible (I don't believe all states allow for write-ins) or if no one comes to mind, then don't vote! If this is supposed to be a representative government and the people running do not represent you, and we're not talking about small differences of opinion here, don't vote for them.

    A democracy works great when you have souls like Gabriel Garcia Moreno available, but we might as well have had generations of corrupt kings on our side of the pond. We've gone so long in this country without any real correction to the avalanche of error left over from the 20th century that yes it very much is a demonocracy now. It didn't have to be, but that's certainly where we're at. Today's liberals are tomorrow's conservatives and that's certainly the case with Humpty Dumpty Trumpty. 

    Double-minded Catholics keep trying to make the case for the double effect when the primary and immediate negative impacts are so obvious that it really is time to stop and think about the poorly recycled scrap metal coming out of their compactors.
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    Re: Fr. Edward MacDonald on Trump and hαɾɾιs
    « Reply #11 on: October 31, 2024, 09:51:40 AM »
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    • Quote from: josh987654321 on October 31, 2024, 09:19:55 AM
    Of course I take offense, the man overturned Roe v Wade ...

    I have to say that's mighty effeminate of you, rather snowflakey.  It's one thing to say you disagree (wrongly) with my perspective, but quite another for you to take "offense".

    And you're obviously not being rational, but merely emoting.  I get it, so if someone did something good in the past, then it's "offensive" to call out the evil he's doing now.  Either what's he's doing now is OK, or it's not OK, regardless of anything he may or may not have done in the past.  Dobbs was just a sleight of hand, IMO, similar to Ratzinger's Motu ... and it's had zero practical effect, despite the fact that the brainless Pro Lifers somehow have been duped into translating it into "abortion has been banned".  Yeah, sure, that's why 10 states of massive Pro Abortion legislation on the ballot next week (including some that had leaned Pro Life before Dobbs), and the raw numbers of abortions has not changed at all since Dobbs.  But that's a separate issue, and the main point is, so what?  Currently Trump enthusiastically supports 94% of all abortions and doesn't believe that they're immoral in principle, just that there's too much of it and it needs to be restricted curtailed ... though actually he's probably saying only enough so as not to lose his base, people like the Trads and everyone else that can watch him go 94% Pro Abortion and still praise him and promote him as if he were "Pro Life".  What a bunch of dummies, to have been duped into considering Mr. 94% Pro Abortion to be "Pro Life".

    Henry VIII was honored by the Pope as a "Defender of the Faith" ... but then later became a degenerate.  So those who denounced his subsequent depravity were being "offensive" because he had been honored by the Pope int he past?

    And your characterization of Trump as "not perfect" is utterly absurd.  Being ardently in favor of abortion pill, abortion "exceptions", abortions before 16 weeks, abortive IVF, sodomy, Jєωιѕн genocide is ... well, uhm ... "not perfect".  You've allowed your emoting to corrupt your objective Catholic moral compass.
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