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For Cletus and dust-7...
« on: August 16, 2007, 07:23:28 PM »
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    « Reply #1 on: August 16, 2007, 11:06:29 PM »
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  • And for post #666 he will start a thread about Pope Leo XIII, the Revolutionary Regicide.

    The above is an example of what has been called my elliptical style.

    My meaning is clear in the light of the "other" thread.

    But I don't think that it is ever a good idea to start new threads that can not be understood by people who have not read another thread. It's bad form. It makes internet forum communication unworkable.

    So I shall fill in the gaps of the ellipsis. I am no more a Zionist because I defended Israel as a dirty-handed nation among dirty-handed nations, than Leo XIII was a Revolutionary insofar as he accepted Revolutionary governments as willed by God.

    For a lot of different reasons I think that this thread title is totally out of line. If I call people Godless liars and Gestapo members in one thread I expect them to throw whatever they have at me in that thread. But not start new ones just to be nasty and abusive, hurling news stories at me and others pointlessly.

    What is the point of connecting my name and dust-7's to this story? What is the point of bringing it in at all? Is the poster generously admitting that yes, even sixty years after the h0Ɩ0cαųst people are still giving Jews a hard time in whatever way they can short of genocide? The stupidly false accusation of Zionism precludes any such kindly interpretation.

    So do we believe this story? If we believe it are we to be glad about what happened to the poor woman? Do we not believe it? What's our game here? What's our point?

    So shall I now start posting photographs of little Jєωιѕн children with their hands in the air and their lips in mid-quiver as nαzι thugs smirk over them? Shall I entitle my thread What Gladius Likes to Ponder When He's Feeling Blue? If not, why not?

    We should never be totalitarian Fascist fanatics in our hostilities. We should be cool and collected.

    We should never make total war. Those who are steeped in the tradition of Christendom's chivalry and Scholasticism know this. Trouble is, no one from the Crusaders to the Inquisitors, except maybe St Louis, ever really abided by those high-flown ideals. The REAL tradition of Catholics -being louts and bullies against those who are not members of the Club, be they Jews or Protties or "Zionists"- is bound to become the besetting sin of Catholics who are into being Traditionally Catholic, and not necessarily Christlike.


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    For Cletus and dust-7...
    « Reply #2 on: August 16, 2007, 11:19:18 PM »
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    The examination method was authorized by all relevant bodies in the United States and poses no damage whatsoever to the examinee. European airport authorities are considering applying a similar search method as well.


    See - what I find odd is that this message is addressed directly to myself, along with someone else.

    So - am I supposed to object to these measures? Am I supposed to approve of such 'examinations'? Should I suggest they just forget the whole thing and take a charter flight?

    Umm?

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    « Reply #3 on: August 17, 2007, 08:14:37 AM »
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  • Now, if I were going to tell you how to respond, I would have just done so for you.
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    « Reply #4 on: August 17, 2007, 08:20:18 AM »
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    If I call people Godless liars and Gestapo members in one thread I expect them to throw whatever they have at me in that thread. But not start new ones just to be nasty and abusive, hurling news stories at me and others pointlessly.


    Sorry to have offended your "polite society" sensibilities.

    And if someone calls me a Godless liar and a Gestapo member, it is complete nonsense that the same man should be "outraged" at words like "pissed off", or suprised when I tell him I would likely punch him square in the face, given the opportunity.

    Maybe you could write how this "abuse" is a hate crime, and that by "hurling a news story at you", I have attempted to harm you (or that it reminded you of some past evil done to your great-grandparents).
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    « Reply #5 on: August 17, 2007, 02:11:23 PM »
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  • Your outraged self-righteousness routine is unconvincing.

    You know that what you are doing here about the "Judaics" is wrong and that my comments about you are well deserved.

    People who say that the Jews were above all responsible for what Jews suffered at the time of the h0Ɩ0cαųst are begging to be called Godless liars and members of the Gestapo and nαzι advocates. You are just angry because it took you by surprise that someone obliged you in this forum the way someone might have at any other forum in cyberspace (not run by neo-nαzι skinheads).

    You can't even keep track of your untruthful statements.

    You're always telling me how little I matter to you and how mildly I annoy you.

    And yet you are still talking about punching me.

    Be a little smart. If something does ever happen along the lines you envision and I have you arrested, you'll want to be able to plead chronic frenzy of resentment against me. Your statements about how light an impression I make on you will hurt your case. Don't just be an advocate for the nαzιs. Be an advocate for yourself.

    Now I see how your Godless Jew hatred makes you stupid as well as vicious and foul-mouthed. Even you will see when your demonic rage dies down that you are guilty of a self-serving non sequitur here. It is not nonsensical that I should object to the potty language of ANYONE just because I object to YOUR Godless deceit on the subject of The Judaics. Even one of your Gestapo pals could tell you that. I could just be a fanatical prig as well as a Zionist Judas Goat.

    Would it be nonsense if I objected to your starting to use words that even a comedy club comedian would find objectionable? Your attribution to me of nonsense is self-serving. It is premised on your presupposition that your dirty and your filthy language (you seem to have forgotten about the latter: I haven't) would be commonly seen by the members here as not THAT bad. It IS that bad. I object to it and I object to your Godless deceit as regards The Judaics. My vituperation against you may be seen as outrageous by some. But it is clean. There is no anomaly is my taking you to task for ALL your transgressions in a clean manner. "You therefore do greatly err."

    You can congratulate yourself on starting to bring down the moral level of this forum. You never would use dirty words such as the ones you have used here in your own forum.

    Very few people would come here to write the vile nonsense that you write about Jєωιѕн people. But now there will be some pea-brained young Traddy bucks who, thanks to you, think that it is okay and Most Catholic to behave like a pagan thug in the interests of saving Christian civilization from the Zionists.

    I shall say again for their benefit: it is illegal to punch someone unless it is a matter of self-defense. You could end up in jail if the injury you caused was serious enough.

    What marks this gladius character as a posturing buffoon in this matter is that there is no question of an insult to a member of his family or to the Blessed Virgin. I called King Philip II of Spain a dirty old goat. No one has a thing about King Philip II of Spain. No court would buy a defense of rage that so Catholic a Most Catholic King of Christendom be thus reviled.

    It was not as though he was called a member of the Gestapo because he upheld the Inerrant Truth of Scripture in the case of St Matthew's teaching that the People called the Blood of Christ down upon them. We probably have all heard Mel Gibson threaten violence against people who truly were maligning his best efforts on behalf of Christ and souls. "He wants to make money off his Savior's death." It is wrong of him to do so, but at least we can sympathize with his feelings of outrage at such outrageousness.

    It's not that way here with gladius. He was called a member of the Gestapo and a nαzι advocate because he was begging someone to call him that and worse in order to spice things up around here. Only now he is too conceited to admit that and stop scandalizing impressionable people with his justifications of illegal (and not very Christian) activity. His statement about Jєωιѕн responsibility for persecution against Jews is outrageous. If we did not sympathize with a Jєωιѕн person who threatened to punch him there would be something very wrong with us.

    Christendom -European Christian civilization as led by and represented by the mostly amoral and Church-persecuting and occasionally niece-marrying Christian rulers of Europe- was a Godless fraud because it called Jesus Good Master and was based on opposition to just about everything He ever taught. Christendom accepted Christ with bad grace but got back a little of its own by opposing the Nazarene Personally in the persons of The Jews. Poor little bakers and street sweepers and candlestick makers who just wanted to get by in a cruel world and make their children safe and happy.

    "Christian" Europe weighed the King of the Jews and found Him wanting. The unspoken dogma of Christendom was that it was bad enough that some Jew crucified under Rome's worthy representative be allowed to dethrone Jupiter and Mars and Woden- and above all Venus. It was strongly and deeply felt by the "Christians" that at least it should have been someone with some punch- a Judas Maccabeus- who became Christ and Lord for the red-blooded men of the West. Not that... that... that perfect JEW RABBI.

    This is the explanation of the Jєω-hatred we see in "Catholic" history and here.

    Christians are supposed to turn the other cheek. Not talk crazy about punching other people. With Judas Maccabeus as Christ those who talk about punching people might have been good Christians. But we are stuck with the son of Joseph. We can only be good Traditionalists if we talk crazy about punching people.

    To close on a point that is smaller per se but more important for impressionable young bucks to take in. The concept of "just war" cannot be honestly invoked, the way gladius did, to justify walking up to someone and punching him in the face because you don't like what he is saying. That is not war. War must be declared by just authorities and one has the right to act violently only under their orders.

    And now let's have twenty pages on the just demands of epikeia in self-proclaimed wars. Tailored at the expense of Cletus's nose.


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    « Reply #6 on: August 17, 2007, 02:37:09 PM »
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    Now, if I were going to tell you how to respond, I would have just done so for you.


    Fair enough.

    My response: You're an idiot.

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    « Reply #7 on: August 18, 2007, 11:01:15 AM »
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    My response: You're an idiot.


    I just love polite society, don't you?

    I really wanted you to say, "Look, dis iz proof zat zee ghass chaym-buhs ver yoozed durink zee seckund vorld var."
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    « Reply #8 on: August 18, 2007, 02:17:09 PM »
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    My response: You're an idiot.


    I just love polite society, don't you?

    I really wanted you to say, "Look, dis iz proof zat zee ghass chaym-buhs ver yoozed durink zee seckund vorld var."


    Only an idiot wants others to speak like an idiot.

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    « Reply #9 on: August 22, 2007, 03:46:54 AM »
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    Please pray for the repose of her soul.


     

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